Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:40 PM
fightforfreedom (4,079 posts)
One piece of evidence in the last hearing has changed everything, you can see it.
Trump knowing the crowd was armed is a game changer and has changed many peoples views, including people on Fox News.
I have always been confident people in Trumps inner circle would be indicted. The evidence against them was overwhelming from the get go. I knew indicting a former president was tricky. This new evidence is smoking gun evidence against Trump. He knew the crowd was armed, he told them to go to the capital and fight. He did nothing to stop the attack, he didn't care if they killed Pence. Many experts are now saying Trump will be indicted, who were not saying that before the last hearing. Justice is coming people.
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fightforfreedom | Jun 2022 | OP |
mopinko | Jun 2022 | #1 | |
fightforfreedom | Jun 2022 | #3 | |
liberal N proud | Jun 2022 | #19 | |
dhol82 | Jun 2022 | #24 | |
The Bopper | Jul 2022 | #60 | |
dhol82 | Jul 2022 | #61 | |
liberal N proud | Jul 2022 | #62 | |
Gore1FL | Jul 2022 | #59 | |
FakeNoose | Jun 2022 | #33 | |
Novara | Jul 2022 | #45 | |
Unwind Your Mind | Jul 2022 | #47 | |
calimary | Jun 2022 | #38 | |
multigraincracker | Jun 2022 | #2 | |
fightforfreedom | Jun 2022 | #4 | |
Raven123 | Jun 2022 | #5 | |
MyOwnPeace | Jun 2022 | #8 | |
calimary | Jun 2022 | #39 | |
spooky3 | Jun 2022 | #6 | |
EndlessWire | Jun 2022 | #7 | |
fightforfreedom | Jun 2022 | #9 | |
MyOwnPeace | Jun 2022 | #10 | |
MyOwnPeace | Jun 2022 | #11 | |
Ligyron | Jun 2022 | #37 | |
R. P. McMurphy | Jul 2022 | #44 | |
Joinfortmill | Jun 2022 | #15 | |
spooky3 | Jun 2022 | #17 | |
AllaN01Bear | Jul 2022 | #58 | |
Nevilledog | Jun 2022 | #12 | |
Joinfortmill | Jun 2022 | #14 | |
DLCWIdem | Jul 2022 | #52 | |
Joinfortmill | Jun 2022 | #13 | |
cloudboy07 | Jun 2022 | #16 | |
Mr. Evil | Jun 2022 | #18 | |
oldsoftie | Jun 2022 | #29 | |
mgardener | Jun 2022 | #20 | |
RANDYWILDMAN | Jun 2022 | #21 | |
Mozeltov Cocktail | Jun 2022 | #22 | |
johnnyfins | Jun 2022 | #27 | |
Mozeltov Cocktail | Jun 2022 | #31 | |
Iggo | Jun 2022 | #43 | |
orleans | Jun 2022 | #35 | |
misanthrope | Jun 2022 | #40 | |
LymphocyteLover | Jul 2022 | #56 | |
Ford_Prefect | Jun 2022 | #23 | |
johnnyfins | Jun 2022 | #28 | |
lastlib | Jun 2022 | #25 | |
gab13by13 | Jun 2022 | #30 | |
lastlib | Jun 2022 | #32 | |
misanthrope | Jun 2022 | #41 | |
DLCWIdem | Jul 2022 | #51 | |
H2O Man | Jun 2022 | #26 | |
malaise | Jun 2022 | #34 | |
90-percent | Jun 2022 | #36 | |
budkin | Jun 2022 | #42 | |
Scrivener7 | Jul 2022 | #53 | |
Stratman | Jul 2022 | #46 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Jul 2022 | #63 | |
Stuart G | Jul 2022 | #48 | |
Riverman100 | Jul 2022 | #49 | |
SayItLoud | Jul 2022 | #50 | |
The Wizard | Jul 2022 | #54 | |
LymphocyteLover | Jul 2022 | #55 | |
wishstar | Jul 2022 | #57 |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:44 PM
mopinko (66,037 posts)
1. pull the mags.
that right there. yes, they're not here to hurt ME.
nobody doesnt follow that thought w- then who? |
Response to mopinko (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:52 PM
fightforfreedom (4,079 posts)
3. Thanks I forgot about that.
This is smoking gun evidence. This shows Trump intent, his prior knowledge of what was planned, what was going on. This evidence is getting close to seditious conspiracy among other potential charges.
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Response to mopinko (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:53 PM
liberal N proud (59,608 posts)
19. For that to happen also implicates his SS detail.
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #19)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:28 PM
dhol82 (9,289 posts)
24. Biden, very wisely, swapped out all the dumb donnie SS guys.
Shall we say for …….. lack of confidence?
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Response to dhol82 (Reply #24)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:54 PM
The Bopper (94 posts)
60. Not sure
I believe I read where the “Ornato” guy is still in the Secret service.
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Response to The Bopper (Reply #60)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 05:46 PM
dhol82 (9,289 posts)
61. That's not good.
Hope he was checked out very thoroughly.
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Response to The Bopper (Reply #60)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:01 PM
liberal N proud (59,608 posts)
62. But is he in the Presidential detail?
Secret Service extends past protection of the President
The deal with counterfeiting and protection of foreign dignitaries even a branch at the UN |
Response to liberal N proud (Reply #19)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:29 PM
Gore1FL (20,438 posts)
59. Arguably the SS is already implicated in Mike Pence's story.
He sure didn't trust them. I don't believe he was there alone in that trust vacuum.
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Response to mopinko (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:02 PM
FakeNoose (27,579 posts)
33. I thought he was talking about mags at the White House rally
Chump didn't have any say about the Capitol Police, but he did have control over the White House security detail. He wanted the ChumpHumpers who were hiding their gunz inside their jackets to be allowed into the rally at the White House. After they left the White House grounds they would then head straight to the Capitol - still armed to the teeth.
But I don't know, maybe I'm reading this wrong. I wasn't there on Jan. 6th, thank God. ![]() ![]() |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #33)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:27 AM
Novara (4,454 posts)
45. That's how I see it too.
He was whining about crowd size (sorry, Donnie, it's not a substitute for your penis size) and wanted the armed mob to be able to come closer to the stage to make the crowd size look bigger. He knew they were hanging back because they were armed. He wanted to take the mags down because he was sure they wouldn't be pointing their AR15s at him. He also knew they then would go - armed - to the Capitol because he told them to go. He sent an armed mob to the Capitol.
THAT'S the story. Not the ketchup, not grabbing steering wheels. He purposely and knowingly sent an armed violent mob to the Capitol. We need to keep talking about this. |
Response to Novara (Reply #45)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:32 AM
Unwind Your Mind (1,773 posts)
47. Absolutely right nt
Response to mopinko (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:35 PM
calimary (73,906 posts)
38. "They're not here to hurt me." BOOM!
JEEPERS!!!
Boy does THAT speak volumes! Six little words that were/are almost literally earth-shaking! |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:49 PM
multigraincracker (29,318 posts)
2. Gun Nuts are
his base. He knew days ahead.
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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #2)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:54 PM
fightforfreedom (4,079 posts)
4. We all knew it but we didn't have the proof. Now we do and so does Garland.
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:00 PM
Raven123 (3,806 posts)
5. Absolutely. Too much attention on temper tantrums. Not enough on the actual plan
Response to Raven123 (Reply #5)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:11 PM
MyOwnPeace (16,007 posts)
8. But the 'temper tantrums'
opened the eyes to a ‘few’ more (yeah, I know, what cave have they been living in?) and his ‘support sinks lower, and lower, and even LOWER as WE drain the swamp!
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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #8)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:37 PM
calimary (73,906 posts)
39. Hey, whatever works!
At this point, any breakthrough is something to celebrate, and something to build upon!
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:00 PM
spooky3 (31,265 posts)
6. I think it will get even worse. Future hearings will show
How he behaved while the insurrection continued and police were being killed and injured. And that’s just one example.
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Response to spooky3 (Reply #6)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:04 PM
EndlessWire (5,072 posts)
7. IMO, he was waiting for the rioters to
catch and hang Pence, maybe Pelosi. Then he could have declared martial law.
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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #7)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:12 PM
fightforfreedom (4,079 posts)
9. You may be right.
Response to EndlessWire (Reply #7)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:15 PM
MyOwnPeace (16,007 posts)
10. As bizarre and disgusting as that 'thought' is
I have every reason to believe that that is EXACTLY what that evil bastard wanted!
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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #7)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:15 PM
MyOwnPeace (16,007 posts)
11. As bizarre and disgusting as that 'thought' is
I have every reason to believe that that is EXACTLY what that evil bastard wanted!
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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #11)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:29 PM
Ligyron (6,911 posts)
37. Right and that thought bears repeating!
Response to EndlessWire (Reply #7)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:32 PM
Joinfortmill (9,918 posts)
15. Yup, the guy is evil thru and thru.
Response to EndlessWire (Reply #7)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:42 PM
spooky3 (31,265 posts)
17. Agree. It wasn't that he "didn't care"--he cared, and
WANTED the mob to rampage. Surely there are serious felonies involved, if they can be proved.
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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #7)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:26 PM
AllaN01Bear (10,908 posts)
58. this one would love to know who built the gallows and the hangmans noose.
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:22 PM
Nevilledog (44,571 posts)
12. Goal posts moved
Response to Nevilledog (Reply #12)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:31 PM
Joinfortmill (9,918 posts)
14. Fuck Hannity, or maybe not. Yuck
Response to Nevilledog (Reply #12)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:38 AM
DLCWIdem (1,470 posts)
52. I really think the J6 committee has the goods on this.
You know the poker term "the nuts" I think they have the nuts.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:31 PM
Joinfortmill (9,918 posts)
13. Totally agree. This traitor is toast.
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:35 PM
cloudboy07 (351 posts)
16. He is going to solitary confinement in a super max !
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 06:46 PM
Mr. Evil (2,312 posts)
18. Call me cyincal but,
I think they're going to only go after the low hanging fruit. The sacrificial lambs, thinking that will suffice. Don't get me wrong. I sincerely hope Garland stands tall and throws the book at TFG and Meadows. But, I'm not going to jump with joy and glee until I actually hear about the indictments.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:03 PM
mgardener (1,537 posts)
20. My Rep Elise Stefanik
Was pregnant.
Yet she still supports him. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:11 PM
RANDYWILDMAN (2,346 posts)
21. They need a big turn by Meadows or Cipollone
otherwise it's still on Eastman and maybe Rudy and maybe Meadows. One of these guys will have to have turned or Jeff Clark is dumber then we thought and kept a master plan signed off on by Trump on his Iphone.
Trump is guilty is fuck. But Doj is beyond reticent to prosecute a former president even when he is guilty and he is guilty as sin. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:21 PM
Mozeltov Cocktail (200 posts)
22. I'm betting that trump announces his candidacy on July 4th...
Response to Mozeltov Cocktail (Reply #22)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:45 PM
johnnyfins (510 posts)
27. I was thinking the same EXACT thing
It's his last ditch effort to save his own ass...eeew
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Response to johnnyfins (Reply #27)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:01 PM
Mozeltov Cocktail (200 posts)
31. Yep, and he'll claim he's being patriotic 🤮
Response to johnnyfins (Reply #27)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:25 PM
Iggo (46,288 posts)
43. That's a whole lotta savin', know'm say'n?
Response to Mozeltov Cocktail (Reply #22)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:23 PM
orleans (31,890 posts)
35. well, that would let garland off the hoook
i mean, who wants to prosecute a former president & current candidate?
& it would buy trump a few more years to keep skating |
Response to orleans (Reply #35)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:01 PM
misanthrope (7,083 posts)
40. That sounds like a line of thinking he would entertain
Get ready America.
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Response to orleans (Reply #35)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:51 PM
LymphocyteLover (3,946 posts)
56. I'd like to think that such a cheap trick wouldn't work but who the hell knows anymore with our
justice system
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:27 PM
Ford_Prefect (6,948 posts)
23. Trump knew well in advance they were coming armed.
He told them to do it. His closest advisers knew he had done that. Some of them helped coordinate the attack. It looks as though Mike Flynn has some splainin' to do. It seems that Mark Meadows may need to clarify a few things.
...And when all is explained, said, and done these guys and a few more will discover the joys of wearing Orange and having 3 squares at government expense. Donny thought he was gonna lead the charge and watch the U.S. Congress burn and die. That was the plan. He still believes it could happen again and keeps stirring the troops to prepare for action. |
Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #23)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:46 PM
johnnyfins (510 posts)
28. Flynn needs to go to jail
White Supremacist fuck
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:36 PM
lastlib (20,047 posts)
25. Any prosecutors out there? Talk me down from this thought.
I'm convinced that the evidence is there to put TFG in the hoosegow for a LOT of years. The one thought that keeps tormenting me is, assuming he is indicted, how the hell will they be able to impanel an "impartial" jury to conduct a trial?? You could call a million jurors, and still have trouble finding twelve that would be impartial in a trial.
Not that I really WANT an impartial jury--I want one that will convict him, but that won't pass judicial muster. And I seriously don't want the charges dismissed on these grounds. |
Response to lastlib (Reply #25)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:57 PM
gab13by13 (14,615 posts)
30. Not talking you down,
A poll just taken shows 31% believe Trump did nothing wrong. 31% is a big enough number to get a Magat or 2 on the jury.
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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #30)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:01 PM
lastlib (20,047 posts)
32. That would make for a hung jury, which is not satisfying.....
If he's tried in DC for J6, I don't think you'll find anywhere near that number of MAGAts. (I could be wrong....) But yeah, they could still find a few.
This is giving me nightmares. |
Response to gab13by13 (Reply #30)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:03 PM
misanthrope (7,083 posts)
41. That has been on my mind as well
It would be hell trying to seat a jury for this. His followers are most likely to lie about their knowledge and feelings in order to monkey wrench things.
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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #30)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:35 AM
DLCWIdem (1,470 posts)
51. If its only 1 or 2
Voir dire should take care of that. They crazy shines through they can't help themselves
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 07:40 PM
H2O Man (70,585 posts)
26. Recommended.
Absolutely.
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Response to H2O Man (Reply #26)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:02 PM
malaise (252,678 posts)
34. We recognized this during yesterday's bombshell hearing
That was HUGE!
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:25 PM
90-percent (6,689 posts)
36. Smoking gun?
more like a bullet engraved with a return address.
-90% Jimmy |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:33 PM
budkin (6,421 posts)
42. But "did he reach for the steering wheel!?"
It all hinges on that!!!
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Response to budkin (Reply #42)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:54 AM
Scrivener7 (46,345 posts)
53. Also, the brand of ketchup!!1!!1
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 08:32 AM
Stratman (11 posts)
46. If the orange idiot is ever on trial
I would love to see a moment like the one from A Few Good Men where he loses it on the stand and says something to the effect of “I called my beautiful mob to the capitol to seize control because I’m the president”
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Response to Stratman (Reply #46)
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 12:16 PM
Eliot Rosewater (30,022 posts)
63. It is what his fascist followers are waiting for, the green light.
He wont need it now though, or the GOP wont.
When the liars on the SC do what they are going to do with the NC elections case, America will be done. My friends and I are already discussing what we will do at that point to survive. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:37 AM
Stuart G (36,288 posts)
48. As I said before, "Trump doesn't have a clue." but when indicted, it will be all over for Donnie
That means a ...TRIAL!...not a resignation like Nixon..but a .."TRIAL"!!!!
Will the trial be legit? You had better believe it. Did Trump commit crimes?..You can believe that too. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:05 AM
Riverman100 (226 posts)
49. can we finally
Jail this filthy pig?
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:15 AM
SayItLoud (1,627 posts)
50. There may be 1 or 2 or 3 "G. Godon Liddy's"
willing to take a fall for traitor tRUMP but there are many MANY more who will NOT take that fall and who substantiate and add to the evidence of his treason.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:37 PM
The Wizard (12,026 posts)
54. The lack of an impartial jury
makes a trial impossible. There will always be one who will refuse to convict because there's no stained blue dress .
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:50 PM
LymphocyteLover (3,946 posts)
55. BUT WHY DID HE WANT ANTIFA ARMED?
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:57 PM
wishstar (4,982 posts)
57. Instead of calling up National Guard for backup to control armed mob he incited crowd to violence
He and his security people and WH aides did nothing to make sure law enforcement could control and disarm those in the crowd.
I wonder if some of those with AR-15's held back near the Capitol waiting for him to come to Capitol and issue them more instructions before they went ballistic but he didn't get there and didn't say anything more until his email about Mike Pence. Or else they were confronted by some DC police and headed off from Capitol before a shooting rampage occurred. I know the DC police made many arrests and confiscated weapons prior to the Jan 6 ellipse rally including van loads of weapons that came in a day or two earlier. |