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Supreme Court just announced they're ending Democracy next year (Original Post) Marius25 Jun 2022 OP
It feels like SCOTUS is trying to instigate a civil a war of sorts. Disgusting! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #1
It looks like the SCOTUS is working against the security of the US. Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #2
The potential is horrific ... n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #4
Full fascism, with no way out but civil war. Bluethroughu Jun 2022 #5
Yes it does look that way. Haggard Celine Jun 2022 #6
Even if this would be the case Cosmocat Jun 2022 #9
It's about time for DOJ to charge some people. Haggard Celine Jun 2022 #15
Nah. They have figured out they are the leaders for life relayerbob Jun 2022 #11
It really does, doesn't it? Initech Jul 2022 #38
No need for arguments. We know how they will vote Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #3
Yup. Making them submit briefs for nothing In It to Win It Jun 2022 #16
the only brief's they can submit is jockey short's --- cloudboy07 Jun 2022 #18
Lol 😀 Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #27
What will you be doing in preparation for the end of democracy? Kaleva Jun 2022 #7
What can we do? LeftInTX Jun 2022 #12
If this actually happens, plus the Rethugs win/cheat/steal the POTUS and both chambers of Congress Celerity Jun 2022 #32
I'm leaving the country not fooled Jun 2022 #14
I would like t see some lawsuits NewEnglandAutumn Jun 2022 #8
The US is not a member of the International Court relayerbob Jun 2022 #13
If you wanted to sue the Supreme Court, the case would be heard SCantiGOP Jun 2022 #25
I wish we could get rid of them LeftInTX Jun 2022 #10
Samuel Alito is the acting Chief Justice, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #17
Nonsense. Neither Alito or Thomas are the de facto Chief Justice. onenote Jun 2022 #35
I don't understand why they agreed to hear this case FakeNoose Jun 2022 #19
Just my opinion... kentuck Jun 2022 #22
Agreed. Everyone seems to think they know how SCOTUS will rule but I'm not so sure. CaptainTruth Jun 2022 #23
Thanks for a level-headed reply, my friend FakeNoose Jun 2022 #26
Barrett may have been sitting on the sidelines in 2020 LeftInTX Jun 2022 #33
Well, there is one thing Mr. Evil Jun 2022 #20
this is why drumpf sent the terrorists to the capital on jan 6........ Takket Jun 2022 #21
21 small population states have fewer people than California; ergo, 42 senators vs. 2 in CA OMGWTF Jun 2022 #24
Every country in the world is watching democracy die. Fascism will reign worldwide. TheBlackAdder Jun 2022 #28
They've adjourned for this session and I guess they come back in October, 2022 Upthevibe Jun 2022 #29
Yes. This term is basically over. The Moore v. Harper case would be Marius25 Jul 2022 #39
Marius25.... Upthevibe Jul 2022 #40
They know the majority of this country disagrees with them budkin Jun 2022 #30
As others said Meowmee Jun 2022 #31
"Vote all you want, but we get to decide" dalton99a Jun 2022 #34
Then let's go to war vercetti2021 Jun 2022 #36
Damn I thought this was The Onion 867-5309. Jun 2022 #37

Bluethroughu

(5,153 posts)
2. It looks like the SCOTUS is working against the security of the US.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:32 PM
Jun 2022

That would be Subverting or Sedition depending if they were acting alone or part of a conspiracy. Let's ask Ginny.

Bluethroughu

(5,153 posts)
5. Full fascism, with no way out but civil war.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:37 PM
Jun 2022

They are going to pass it because they want a civil war so the kochs can install themselves as king.

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
6. Yes it does look that way.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:44 PM
Jun 2022

If the Court votes that legislatures can overturn democratic elections, it will be a constitutional crisis. The Executive branch would have the right to arrest the Justices who voted for the nullification of elections. The Congress and the courts gave the Executive that power for handling threats to our government. Congress would have the right to impeach them. If the country.isn't already at war by then, it will be soon after.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
9. Even if this would be the case
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:20 PM
Jun 2022

We can't even get the DOJ to charge the ring leaders of Jan 6, expand the SC, etc.

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
15. It's about time for DOJ to charge some people.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:27 PM
Jun 2022

All of this evidence is coming out for the world to see, and people are going to expect action very soon. If it isn't forthcoming, Biden needs to replace some people at Justice. I'm hoping that they've been waiting for the J6 Committee to show its cards before they act, but if it's clear that they aren't doing anything, then it's past time for them to be replaced.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
11. Nah. They have figured out they are the leaders for life
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:21 PM
Jun 2022

They don't care who is President or in Congress. They are the ruling junta and they figure there's not much we can do about it. No need for a civil war, they already have siezed power. While we were all watching Trump's asinine attempt at a coup. they actually accomplished it.

Initech

(100,064 posts)
38. It really does, doesn't it?
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:05 AM
Jul 2022

Civil War with a possible liberal genocide attached to it. This SCOTUS is setting this country off on an extremely dark and dangerous path. Aided and abetted by Fox News and Vladimir Putin. I have no doubt if these fuckheads were to get back into power that they'd go full Nazi. It seems like we're entering uncharted territory here.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
7. What will you be doing in preparation for the end of democracy?
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 08:58 PM
Jun 2022

Are you just going to accept it and go about your life as if nothing changed?

Celerity

(43,330 posts)
32. If this actually happens, plus the Rethugs win/cheat/steal the POTUS and both chambers of Congress
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:24 PM
Jun 2022

in 2024, then the Blue States need to start to draw up secession papers. The Union is, at that point, null and void, is NOT coming back (to think it could be repaired without kinetic action would be to suffer from a most extreme case of normalcy bias-driven self-delusion), and the Blue States who chose secession rather than life under the whip hand of a Gilead style christofash authoritarian nightmare need to gird their loins for possible kinetic war. Biden is hopefully already at work coming up with a plan for the US nuclear stockpile. A huge inflection point will come when the Armed Forces decide which side they fall on.

Hard times, hard times I am afraid.

NewEnglandAutumn

(184 posts)
8. I would like t see some lawsuits
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:18 PM
Jun 2022

class-action ones TFG is violating the rights of voters by undermining our elections without any evidence and diluting the value of votes
also the time to try to sue the SC Justices for lying under oath and if necessary take a human rights case to The Hague.

gab13by13

(21,313 posts)
17. Samuel Alito is the acting Chief Justice,
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:37 PM
Jun 2022

the arrogant racist, Nazi, fuck face, mouthed "not true" at the SOTU when President Obama said that Citizens United would allow unlimited dark money into politics.

We need to keep the House and expand the Senate and then expand the court to 13 justices. A very tall order.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
35. Nonsense. Neither Alito or Thomas are the de facto Chief Justice.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:38 PM
Jun 2022

Alito is all the things you describe except that he's not the "acting" Chief Justice -- by which I presume you mean "de facto" -- Chief Justice.

During the just completed term, which Justice authored the most majority opinions? Roberts. Which Justice was in the majority the most: Roberts. Alito not only authored fewer majority opinions than Roberts, he authored fewer than Gorsuch and Sotomayor. And among the Republicans on the court, only Gorsuch and Thomas were in the majority fewer times than Alito. Roberts and Kavanaugh were in the majority 95 percent of the time, and Barrett was close behind at 93 percent. In contrast, Alito was in the majority only 86 percent of the time (with with Thomas at 81 percent and Gorsuch at 78%)

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
19. I don't understand why they agreed to hear this case
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:41 PM
Jun 2022

All the other state election disputes have been kicked back to the states by SCOTUS. They don't overturn rulings by state supreme or appellate courts. Well maybe they have occasionally but it doesn't happen very often. More to the point, it hasn't happened with THIS bench that we have right now. They have refused to take cases, or they have ruled in favor of the state supremes every time.

But now suddenly - they've made an about turn. What the FUCK is going on at the US Supreme Court?
This isn't funny, guys!

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
22. Just my opinion...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:54 PM
Jun 2022

...From my conspiratorial mind.

They are telling the DOJ that they may want to think twice on whether or not to pursue the investigation of "fake " electors. After all, the Court can change that rule very easily, they hint. More than hint, they are saying it out loud.

The Court is showing its political side.

It's a threat to the Executive Branch and the DOJ, in my opinion.

The majority of the Supreme Court has joined the cult of lies.

CaptainTruth

(6,589 posts)
23. Agreed. Everyone seems to think they know how SCOTUS will rule but I'm not so sure.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:11 PM
Jun 2022

As you say they've supported state supreme court authority to interpret state constitutions & state laws, & to throw that out, along with throwing out a fundamental & essential part of our democratic election process, seems like a bridge too far even for this court.

My gut feeling is they will say the independent state legislature doctrine is BS, they'll reaffirm federalism, & reaffirm the authority of state constitutions & state supreme courts in matters of state law.

I hope I'm not wrong!!!

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
33. Barrett may have been sitting on the sidelines in 2020
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:25 PM
Jun 2022

That's all I can think of

Then they saw all these horrific laws passed in 2121 and thought, "Hey this is cool! Let's burn it all down along with them!"

Takket

(21,563 posts)
21. this is why drumpf sent the terrorists to the capital on jan 6........
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:46 PM
Jun 2022

He wanted the state legislatures to throw out the results, based on this premise, but he needed more time. (Recall he keeps talking about Pence "sending it back to the states" )

The states were telling him their hands were tied, even if he had proof (which he didn't).

This case is about paving the way to make sure if drumpf loses again in 2024, that the red state legislatures have the power to install him anyway. They just have to say "uh, fraud and stuff, i guess" and throw out whatever they need to throw out. of course that works both ways, blue states can do that too. Voting results would be nothing more than a "suggestion" to the state legislature on who THEY should declare the winner. Review and certification by canvassers actually familiar with the process and results would mean nothing anymore.

OMGWTF

(3,951 posts)
24. 21 small population states have fewer people than California; ergo, 42 senators vs. 2 in CA
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:16 PM
Jun 2022

HOW THE FK IS THAT FAIR????

Upthevibe

(8,038 posts)
29. They've adjourned for this session and I guess they come back in October, 2022
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:55 PM
Jun 2022
Your headline read....."next year". Is that in 2023?

If we pick up a significant number of seats in the House and the Senate, we would have a lot more power (I.E. expanding the court and yes I know that President Biden is saying he doesn't want to expand the court but I think his wishes could change).

Please let me know if they're saying in 2023....Thank you...

budkin

(6,699 posts)
30. They know the majority of this country disagrees with them
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:58 PM
Jun 2022

And this is the only way they can ensure power.

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