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Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:46 AM

When they overturned Roe, they created tens of millions of pissed off Mama Grizzly Bears.

I shit you not, if you don't believe me, go out and talk to women you know and don't know. Women are going to vote this November in big numbers. Many men are also pissed off.

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Reply When they overturned Roe, they created tens of millions of pissed off Mama Grizzly Bears. (Original post)
fightforfreedom Jul 2022 OP
Lochloosa Jul 2022 #1
EYESORE 9001 Jul 2022 #10
Hortensis Jul 2022 #14
hlthe2b Jul 2022 #2
MontanaMama Jul 2022 #3
Hekate Jul 2022 #22
Novara Jul 2022 #4
Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #8
hlthe2b Jul 2022 #11
Novara Jul 2022 #21
hlthe2b Jul 2022 #26
Hekate Jul 2022 #23
Marius25 Jul 2022 #5
DLCWIdem Jul 2022 #15
LonePirate Jul 2022 #16
DLCWIdem Jul 2022 #18
Hekate Jul 2022 #24
Hekate Jul 2022 #25
Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #6
TheRealNorth Jul 2022 #9
Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #19
SheltieLover Jul 2022 #7
Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #12
mopinko Jul 2022 #13
BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #17
DavidDvorkin Jul 2022 #20
WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #27

Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:50 AM

1. Count me as one of the men.

I have two granddaughters.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:13 AM

10. I have four granddaughters

and Iím plenty pissed - for my three grandsons as well.

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Response to EYESORE 9001 (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:36 AM

14. We have 3 teen grandsons to get to adulthood without fatherhood.

And a granddaughter entering puberty.

We felt for those of our friends who found themselves having to raise grandchildren before, while abortion was widely legal. Well, guess what? My guess is the proportion of this era's grandparents-on-the-hook who always believed they were against abortion will rise while it's illegal, as others continue to use medication and other abortion as needed.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:51 AM

2. I hope to hell, yes. And ditch the pink, the silly knit hats and FIGHT for your RIGHTS with all

you've got. (and yes, I did march in the 2020 Women's March in response to Trump's illegitimate inauguration, but I thought the pink crocheted pussy hats were stupid then and I do NOW). But, fighting for our rights, damned right I will be out there for my generation and every other. Just expect an angry grizzly--wearing and seeing bull-fighter RED, not pink. (and not MAGAT)

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:52 AM

3. Women need to vote in big numbers forever.

In the mean time abortion will be banned in many places and women will die as a result. Iím trying to be optimistic but I donít see reproductive rights being restored in my lifetime. This is going to be a long damned road.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 03:24 PM

22. Montana Mama, I don't see restoration in my lifetime either...

Ideals I supported my entire life, rights I worked for my entire life, the arc of history that I saw bending toward progress, justice, equality ó all being smashed. I am in mourning.

The Court gutted the Voting Rights Act several years ago, they opened the door to dark money, they declared the personhood of corporations. The groundwork was laid for what is happening to our voting rights in the present moment.

As for this session in the SCOTUS, they appear to be ramming thru one poisonous decision after another, as fast as they can, before the summer recess. The Far Right in this country finally has the Supreme Court it has always wanted, and they all have a lifetime job.

I am 74. Their decisions will outlive me. The question is, will they outlive my daughter as well?



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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:57 AM

4. I resent the "mama grizzly bear" trope

We WOMEN are pissed off at our rights being stolen. We are not all procreators and that's kind of the point. We choose whether we want to be mothers.

I ever wanted children. I would have availed myself of an abortion had I become pregnant. I never needed one but I always knew I would do it if I got pregnant. I like sex; I never wanted to become a mother. There are lots of women like me. And now our uteruses belong to the government. And we're pissed off.

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Response to Novara (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:01 AM

8. Yup.

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Response to Novara (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:25 AM

11. Substitute "angry" grizzly.

As any such animal threatened would be.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 03:02 PM

21. How about finding something to substitute "mama"?

Sheesh, that's the whole point.

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Response to Novara (Reply #21)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:05 PM

26. I DID. "ANGRY" I get your point but you ought to be able to get mine. It is not merely

"mama" grizzlies thatl respond when threatened and that is exactly what is occurring to all the women of the US. Time to see the forest, for the trees. Many here have no children, yet we are all ANGRY.

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Response to Novara (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 03:42 PM

23. Sisterhood is powerful, but by all means let's argue over well-meant ways of describing relationship

Did I offend because you donít have a biological sister?

Does motherhood (ďmama ď ) mean only the bearing and rearing of children? Or can it include any nurturing relationship?

Does being compared to a powerful member of the animal kingdom offend you? When Women Who Run With The Wolves came out, I read it with considerable enjoyment, but found myself savaged by a young feminist scholar at the university where I worked, who took umbrage at any woman being compared to an animal.

Oh well, we do agree that the High Court has gone rogue ó solidarity forever.



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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:58 AM

5. I hope so. While polls are shifting towards Dems, Republicans still have the lead

I'm just worried that the economy is a much bigger factor than Roe and people won't care as much come November.

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Response to Marius25 (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:51 AM

15. Abortion is an economic issue

Can we get that message to everyone. It is health care. It darn well effects your bottom line. If they also ban contraceptives thats another issue. I can actually see insurance companies refusing to pay

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:13 PM

16. I agree it is an economic issue but with a qualifier.

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High gas and food prices are economic issues of today. Abortion is an economic issue of tomorrow.

People buy food and gas today; but women need to schedule an appointment a few days down the road for an abortion, provided they are pregnant in the first place.

Long term the abortion decision has much more impact but it often does not have the same immediacy.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:48 PM

18. Some repubs have wizened up to this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/~In%20It%20to%20Win%20It

I think most women understand having children is a lifetime economic issue.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 03:43 PM

24. Wised up, one hopes. Wizened is old and wrinkled.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #16)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 03:46 PM

25. Frame it around contraception, which is very much on the chopping block. Planning pregnancy...

Ö is 100% an economic decision. Children are extremely expensive.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:59 AM

6. My 72 year-old next door neighbor said she won't be putting

her flags out for the 4th since half the country isnít free anymore.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:06 AM

9. I would recommend the upside-down American flag....

Although from what i have heard, some of the deplorables have appropriated that form of protest.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:24 PM

19. That would probably be pushing the envelope for her.

Weíre in the reddest part of DeSatan Land. The real kicker is sheís Catholic.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:00 AM

7. Absolutely!

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:26 AM

12. And not

the faux Sarah Palin ones.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:31 AM

13. soccer moms.

we called them that in '04, but they are the white college educated suburban women.
in '04, they voted their fears, and elected w.
obama tapped their hopes, and they elected him in '08. i. '12, they voted to keep the aca.
in '16, the idiot got i their heads.
in '20, they shook that shit off.

they'll be all ours in nov.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:16 PM

17. I'll believe it when I see it at the polls in November.

Talk is cheap.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 02:20 PM

20. Unfortunately, there are also many millions who are delighted with the decision

We won't know for some time which way the balance tilts.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 04:06 PM

27. I'll believe it when I see it.

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