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Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:22 AM

In the near future, this will happen to a woman somewhere in America.

A pregnant women arrives at an emergency room in a state where abortion has been completely banned, except when the mothers life is in danger. The penalty in this state for performing an abortion may be life in prison.

The woman tells the doctor, something is wrong. The doctor examines the women and finds nothing wrong. Her life is not in danger. He then examines the baby and discovers the baby suffers from some type of condition that will eventually kill the baby and put the mothers life in danger. At that moment the baby is not danger.

The doctor knows the pregnancy should be terminated immediately. He hesitates because the mother and baby are not in danger at that moment. He fears he could be arrested if he aborts the baby.

He decides to admit the woman to the hospital and keep her under observation. A few days later the woman suddenly goes into shock, They rush her into surgery but it is to late , both the mother and baby die.

Investigations are started, lawsuits are filed, it is complete chaos.

Something like this has happened in the past here and in other countries where abortion was banned. It is part of history.

The Republicans are going to regret this decision, they think they have won, in reality they have lost big time. Unfortunately many women are going to die before this horrible decision can be fixed.

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Reply In the near future, this will happen to a woman somewhere in America. (Original post)
fightforfreedom Jul 2022 OP
EYESORE 9001 Jul 2022 #1
NickB79 Jul 2022 #2
unblock Jul 2022 #3
barbtries Jul 2022 #10
DFW Jul 2022 #4
fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #5
DFW Jul 2022 #11
MissB Jul 2022 #14
NCjack Jul 2022 #6
unblock Jul 2022 #7
arlyellowdog Jul 2022 #8
Lars39 Jul 2022 #13
MissB Jul 2022 #15
LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #17
gratuitous Jul 2022 #9
Srkdqltr Jul 2022 #12
LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #16
IronLionZion Jul 2022 #18
Orrex Jul 2022 #19
cagefreesoylentgreen Jul 2022 #20
plimsoll Jul 2022 #21
Thunderbeast Jul 2022 #22
momta Jul 2022 #23
paulkienitz Jul 2022 #24
Lotusflower70 Jul 2022 #25

Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:26 AM

1. Unfortunately, those responsible for this scenario

will not be held accountable, except possibly in the political sense. They’ll issue something resembling sympathy and empty platitudes, but they’ll never pay a price like what they deserve.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:27 AM

2. It's already happening in Missouri. Ectopic pregnancy

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216866758

OBGYN Colleague in Missouri “We are now observing patients with ectopic pregnancy and hemoperitoneum until they have a documented falling hemoglobin or unstable vital signs”

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:32 AM

3. Which means rising insurance costs and fewer hospital beds available

Thanks, republicans!

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:50 AM

10. jeezus.

they really want to be sure that we all know how inconsequential a woman's life is, don't they?

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:38 AM

4. The one thing I regret to disagree with is this:

"The Republicans are going to regret this decision....."

I don't think they will. Those Republicans who find themselves in a position of needing an abortion will arrange for it to happen, keep it as quiet as possible, and then deny before man and immortal that it ever happened.

All who do not have the means or connections will suffer hardship, poverty (if they don't already), lifetime injury or even death, and the Republicans will not regret even one of them. Life, disruption, death, anguish, stigma, all of that is collateral damage, or else the consequence of their "sin" in self-righteous Republican eyes.

It is useless to look for sympathy or compassion where there is none. That will only lead to disappointment and frustration.

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Response to DFW (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:41 AM

5. I meant they will regret this politically.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:17 PM

11. I figured

They won't even regret it politically unless there is massive turnout for us on election day. Every Democrat refused the right to vote must show and demand to cast a provisional. The Nina Turners of the world, along with everyone who has ever supported them, must be ignored because they do NOT share "the people's" interests, no matter how much they insist otherwise. They no more represent "the people" than the Republicans support "God."

A few Republican women chosen to go on CNN or MSNBC to say, "I disagree with my party on this" will make zero difference, because most of them will vote Republican despite it all. Their "concern" is no more a factor than that of Susan Collins. Instead of hoping the Republicans will have shot themselves in the foot, we must cripple them for real with a massive GOTV turnout. In the midterms and in 2024, they will cheat, lie, and use every trick in the book (and some not yet listed) to get their way. We dare not let ourselves be encouraged by anything other than an overwhelming turnout for the elections, because anything else will turn out to be a false hope. The Republicans are the only major political party who, once the election is over, will not only willingly go to their own firing squad, they will offer to pay for the ammunition.

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Response to DFW (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:40 PM

14. such very good points

Republicans always fall in line. Even the women.

Reaching across the aisle on the abortion issue is a no-go. We must have overwhelming numbers both at the ballot box and (hopefully) in the Senate and (perhaps not as likely) in the House in order to fix this politically.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:42 AM

6. Looks like physicans should carry their passports at all times. Never know when the need

may arise to "visit" a friend.

However, for those who don't escape, their attorneys need some DEMs on the jury.

Those are us. My argument will be the accused are innocent. The six radical Justices were party to conspiracy with the Federal Society, in which the nominees were groomed to mislead or lie to the Senate, took places on the SC, and to acted at the first opportunity to overturn RvW. Their committed fraud and poisoned the SC decision. No one can be held accountable to any law derived from it.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:43 AM

7. Few republicans will ever regret it.

Some will. Some will lose a daughter because of Dobbs.

But gestational slavers have long held that because "abortion is murder", saving all those "innocent babies" outweighs virtually any evil or horrible outcome in terms of its effect on women, families, and other social matters such as the crime rate.


What they will regret is killing the fundraising goose that laid the golden egg. For decades republicans had a gold mine with all those single-issue voters who hated roe. Now those donations will start to dry up as it's their turn to get complacent. Meanwhile our side is already seeing massive donations from people wanting a return to sanity.

The people consequences, they don't care about.
The *political* consequences, that's another story.


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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:46 AM

8. I really wish people would focus on what you are saying

A month ago we went into the sonogram. The baby was so wanted. A boy. We bought blue Play Doh as a sweet way of telling his big brother that after years of trying, he would have a sibling. There had been some bleeding a few weeks previously, but the heartbeat was good. The big sonogram was at 15 weeks. I sat next to her. The doctor said, “The heartbeat is strong. ” We exclaimed, “Thank God.” But then he fell silent for 20 minutes, checking. “I’m sorry. The amniotic sac broke. This fetus is dying.” We were told to go home but take her fever many times a day. They scheduled an appointment for a week. We got home and I gently told her to call her ON/GYN. She went in the next day and her doctor told her the horrible truth but told her she had developed an infection, her blood pressure was out of control, and they must save her life. I didn’t lose her. Her doctor decided, not Youngkin.

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Response to arlyellowdog (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:23 PM

13. I am so sorry for your loss, arlyellowdog.

I am very glad you didn’t lose your wife.

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Response to arlyellowdog (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:42 PM

15. I'm so sorry

and I'm glad you didn't lose her.

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Response to arlyellowdog (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:55 PM

17. I'm so very sorry. We have to stop Republicans from killing women.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:49 AM

9. "Investigations are started, lawsuits are filed" Oh, if only it stopped there

In these zealot states, there's going to be criminal charges. You think a conservative district attorney is going to pass up an opportunity to be "tough on crime"? When he can prosecute a doctor or an abortion mill for murder? Yeah, I know, it's a hospital or a medical clinic, but providing health care to a woman will soon become suspicious activity in and of itself. The medical community will get the message tout de suite what providing services to women will entail, as zealous prosecutors and state legislators get drunk on their own power and try their incompetent hand at practicing medicine.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:21 PM

12. They don't care. It is the control they are after.


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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:52 PM

16. REPUBLICANS DON'T CARE ABOUT WOMEN'S LIVES

DEATH CULT

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:56 PM

18. Pro-lifers are fine with death and suffering

GOP won't regret any of this. Over 1 million Americans died from COVID and many of those idiots are still in denial of their role in it.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:06 PM

19. And Republikkkan women will happily vote to maintain that horror

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:10 PM

20. I hope someone blasts this on livestream

If I were in that situation, pregnant and doomed to die because of some superstitious control-freak old men, I’d live-stream everything up to my last breath over the Internet.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:13 PM

21. Why do we think this isn't a desired outcome?

As pointed out this will only really impact the poor, and we should know by now that the GOP does not give a damn about poor people. So from their perspective some poor woman dying is probably a good thing. Bonus points if it can force the survivors in the family into homelessness.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:27 PM

22. That whole "GOD'S WILL" delusion will rationalize all of the death.

It will take a MASSIVE change of outlook to remove these a-holes by elections. Is Prohibition a model?

Must re-watch Ken Burns documentary for perspective.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:36 PM

23. Something like this could easily happen to someone in my family in Texas



I know of members of my family who have this chromosome abnormality who live in Texas...and are of child-bearing age. This is NOT hypothetical.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:41 PM

24. The Supremos are giving the reactionaries everything they thought they wanted.

As with all reactionaries, fascists, and authoritarians, they imagine that the harsh oppressions they cheer will only happen to people they don't like, never to themselves. People who support authoritarian brutality always end up disillusioned, but only after it's too late.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2022, 03:09 PM

25. It doesn't matter to them

They do not care about the woman or the baby. They care about power and control. They would rather have women die actually. They don't care if they are seen as irrational or evil. They won't regret a damn thing.

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