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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:08 AM Jul 2022

"I don't get it ..."

He/she's got a point even though we applaud Hutchinson for finally doing the right thing.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/30/2107483/-I-don-t-get-it-My-first-KOS-rant

I don't get it ... My first KOS rant
dablock
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Thursday June 30, 2022 · 12:23 PM EDT


Dear fellow KOS readers,

After reading April Siese’s June 28th article on “Trump’s Truth Social Meltdown” (www.dailykos.com/...), I replied to another reader’s comment about how he or she believes Cassidy Hutchinson “is brave and ethical.” In my reply, I did credit Hutchinson with bravery, but I had to disagree with her being ethical. My reply prompted others to reply that they felt sorry for me, that they thought I’m a horrible person and that he or she would blocked me if I made further comments.

I have to say that I just don’t get it. Of course, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but I just don’t understand the thought process that leads them to those opinions.

Did Ms. Hutchinson do the right thing? Yes.

Was Ms. Hutchinson brave to testify against Trump and Meadows? Yes.

Will Ms. Hutchinson be harassed and threatened by the Trump base? Yes.

Is Ms. Hutchinson an ethical person? No.

So, what leads me to that last conclusion?

Ms. Hutchinson is an adult. A young adult yes, but she’s still an adult who should know right from wrong. She’s an adult who chose to work for Steve Scalise, who is a liar and an insurrection supporter. She chose to take a high-level position in the Trump administration understanding that Trump is a racist, misogynist, serial liar, emotionally unstable, narcissistic, and so on and so on. She then also took on a position working with Mark Meadows who had made numerous racists statements as a member of Congress. This belies the good moral compass that another KOS reader gave her credit for having. I credit Ms. Hutchinson with not being an insurrectionist, but that is not enough to make her a good person much less any kind of hero. Did Ms. Hutchinson resign her position after the horror of January 6th? No, she did not. Did Ms. Hutchinson voluntarily submit her testimony to the January 6th Committee? No, she was subpoenaed.

The kicker for me is that, during her live testimony, she voluntarily offered up that she was highly supportive of the Trump administration’s policies.
What kind of moral compass do you possess if you find goodness in: tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy; The Muslim Ban; family separations at the border; no transgender people in the military; the anti-NATO stance; deserting the Kurdish in Syria; giving Kim Jung Un the opportunity to stand on the world stage with a US President; kissing Putin’s ass in front of the entire world; telling Xi Jinping that the Uighur concentration camps are a good thing; mass murder of a few hundred thousand Americans by intentional neglect of the COVID-19 pandemic; and so many, many more degenerate policies? If you stand by those policies, your moral compass points to E which in this case stands for evil and not for east.

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"I don't get it ..." (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2022 OP
I get what this person is saying,,,, KarenS Jul 2022 #1
Unfuckingbelievable. gab13by13 Jul 2022 #2
That is how I feel. None of the R's who are bravely testifying are to be lionized, but that doesn't hlthe2b Jul 2022 #3
What exactly, is it that you disapprove of in his statement about ethics? Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #5
Sorry, but I see babylonsister Jul 2022 #8
I don't need to make her a hero. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2022 #4
Doubtful that they're related. Moosepoop Jul 2022 #12
Thank you for the information. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2022 #13
In A Spirit Of Advocatus Diaboli, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2022 #6
People do not understand how much courage it takes to speak truth to power, gab13by13 Jul 2022 #7
Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and Ms. Hutchinson, gab13by13 Jul 2022 #9
I get it. Progressive dog Jul 2022 #10
Cognitive dissonance. n/t moondust Jul 2022 #11
To those who disagree with the OP I ask, what part of it is untrue? panader0 Jul 2022 #14
The mistake made in this... Ohio Joe Jul 2022 #15

KarenS

(4,073 posts)
1. I get what this person is saying,,,,
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:14 AM
Jul 2022

except I thought I read that she had been interviewed once. Then later changed lawyers and contacted the committee to be re-interviewed because she wanted to clarify statements. so the second time was conscience perhaps,,,,

I am trying to absorb all of this before making definitive statements,,,, it's all rather fluid still.

gab13by13

(21,295 posts)
2. Unfuckingbelievable.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:26 AM
Jul 2022

The #1 Magat narrative right now, today is to tear down Ms. Hutchinson and here it is at Democratic Underground.
Did I say, unfuckingbelievable?

hlthe2b

(102,212 posts)
3. That is how I feel. None of the R's who are bravely testifying are to be lionized, but that doesn't
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jul 2022

mean they should be DEMONIZED. Credit where credit is due. DO we wish she were not a conservative any more than Liz Cheney? Of course. But, then she would NOT be in a position to expose the truth and there is NO denying the two of them are doing so incredibly effectively. That alone earns them considerable respect in my book.

We have to stop expecting our opponents who come to our side on the big picture issues and to save democracy to turn their back on ALL of their beliefs. Surely we can avoid being so unrealistic... and naive'.

babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
8. Sorry, but I see
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:09 AM
Jul 2022

no sense sticking our heads in the sand. Yea, they're tearing her down, but not because she was a loyal trumpster.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. I don't need to make her a hero.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:34 AM
Jul 2022

She did the right thing in the end, I guess.

I also think Cassidy and Meadows share a very strong physical resemblance that I can’t not see at this point. Does anyone know anything about her early life? I haven’t seen anything about her youth, even though I have been too busy to look very hard. Not trying to create a conspiracy, just noting an observation.

Am I the only one that thinks Cassidy and Meadows look a lot alike? Are they related?

Moosepoop

(1,920 posts)
12. Doubtful that they're related.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:48 AM
Jul 2022

Meadows was born in France and raised in Florida. Hutchinson and her parents Richard and Angela, and her brother Jack, all hail from New Jersey. Mother's maiden name was Moore. I think you're seeing things that aren't there.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
13. Thank you for the information.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 11:10 AM
Jul 2022

I was hoping that was the case, just couldn’t/didn’t know how to find out.

She seems very competent and highly professional (despite her political views) unlike the knuckleheads that she worked with.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
6. In A Spirit Of Advocatus Diaboli, Ma'am
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:44 AM
Jul 2022

Such witnesses by presenting themselves as supporters of the man who have been made to array themselves against him by specific misdeeds, which forced them to choose loyalty to their country over their personal political views, may give their testimony greater emotional heft for many. I can see a witness being advised to take such a line in testimony where it is not false to fact.

Any who state that despite their own testimony to his crimes they would vote for wretch again abuse the privilege....

gab13by13

(21,295 posts)
7. People do not understand how much courage it takes to speak truth to power,
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:07 AM
Jul 2022

I do not give a rat's ass if Ms. Hutchinson votes straight republican in the next election, what she did is so courageous.

I spoke truth to power in my small town back in the 70's when powerful people wanted to frack and strip coal on our pristine watershed.
I just got a tiny taste of what it takes to do the right thing, and yes in my small town there were goon squads and death threats.

Ms. Hutchinson is my hero and any attacks on her of any kind are just what the Magats want.

gab13by13

(21,295 posts)
9. Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and Ms. Hutchinson,
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:34 AM
Jul 2022

are Republicans who are fighting to save our democracy. Politically, they have nothing in common with Democrats. Politics will mean nothing under a fascist, autocratic form of government.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
10. I get it.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:39 AM
Jul 2022

I think most of us do. None of us is perfect (at least in my opinion). Millions voted for Trump, perhaps they are all just immoral pieces of shit but at least she stood up for the truth and law which is all we should expect of patriotic Americans.
I'm confused as to how she could have done anything to prevent the coup or the pandemic and how her legal political opinions have anything to do with her testimony as to what she witnessed.
Why the hell would anyone come forward to tell the truth if they are attacked for every view they have ever held by those they are helping?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
14. To those who disagree with the OP I ask, what part of it is untrue?
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 12:59 PM
Jul 2022

She worked for all the scumbags named willfully, she supported tfg's agenda and didn't quit the
administration after J-6. Her moral compass was broken. Whether it has been fixed after being
subpoenaed is something we'll have to wait and see.

Ohio Joe

(21,748 posts)
15. The mistake made in this...
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jul 2022

Is that it decides that being ethical is a one time choice and that once made, never changes. Prior unethical behavior does not dictate if today's behavior is ethical.

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