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In It to Win It

(8,233 posts)
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:23 PM Jul 2022

School board in FL voted that ALL parents be notified if an LGBTQ child is in a P.E. class or

Tallahassee Democrat via Yahoo News (No Paywall)

After three hours of fiery public debate, the Leon County School Board unanimously approved its "LGBTQ Inclusive School Guide" Tuesday night.

The policy, which the board is calling a “guide” and a "living document" that can be quickly updated, comes after weeks of deliberation from the district’s LGBTQ+ Advisory Committee.

The document is intended to create guidelines for teachers and administrators to help students who need it and to outline state laws for employees, Assistant Superintendent Alan Cox told the Tallahassee Democrat.

The advisory committee was created to review the district's longstanding LGBTQ guide, which was pulled last summer after the parents of a middle school child complained that it overstepped their parental rights.

Parental notification draws fire

What drew the most debate was a provision that a school will notify parents — by form — if a student who is "open about their gender identity" is in a physical education class or on an overnight trip.

Some teachers and students during the Tuesday night meeting said the policy will “out” LGBTQ+ students — revealing their sexual orientation or gender identity without their permission.

The policy language does explicitly say a student’s sexual orientation, gender identity or expression “should not be shared with others without their input and permission.”



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School board in FL voted that ALL parents be notified if an LGBTQ child is in a P.E. class or (Original Post) In It to Win It Jul 2022 OP
Well of course, the christofascists have to be able to clearly target those children... Thomas Hurt Jul 2022 #1
the christofascists' end game is target all LGBTQ kids and drive as many as possible to suicide, Celerity Jul 2022 #2
Nailed it IngridsLittleAngel Jul 2022 #13
Or else vercetti2021 Jul 2022 #15
My inspiration for that line came from Jello Biafra's version of the Pledge... IngridsLittleAngel Jul 2022 #17
Live free or die vercetti2021 Jul 2022 #18
I think many of us are IngridsLittleAngel Jul 2022 #19
How long before pregnant women and LGBTQ kids have to wear identification badges? Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #3
Does the Leon County school district have a bullying policy? crickets Jul 2022 #4
Yes, the school board can bully people it doesn't like Retrograde Jul 2022 #6
Apparently. It's insane. nt crickets Jul 2022 #8
In other words IngridsLittleAngel Jul 2022 #14
I decided to look for the answer to my question. crickets Jul 2022 #7
Stop pathologizing kids, ffs. It's malevolent cruelty. Duncan Grant Jul 2022 #5
I absolutely agree IngridsLittleAngel Jul 2022 #16
Cruel, mean, pieces of garbage. Solly Mack Jul 2022 #9
The cruelty is an end in and of itself. It's a revered feature for them, not at all a bug, and their Celerity Jul 2022 #10
It is, I agree. The point. Solly Mack Jul 2022 #20
Can't bully the adults anymore vercetti2021 Jul 2022 #11
"Don't Say Gay"... Except of course to out others IngridsLittleAngel Jul 2022 #12
It is time for business to pull out of Florida - it's a hateful dump purr-rat beauty Jul 2022 #21

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. Well of course, the christofascists have to be able to clearly target those children...
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:25 PM
Jul 2022

with their own little haters for bullying, intimidation and assault.

Celerity

(43,299 posts)
2. the christofascists' end game is target all LGBTQ kids and drive as many as possible to suicide,
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:33 PM
Jul 2022

which will suffice until they can pass laws that outlaws all LGBTQ activity, then they can step in and do forced conversion therapy (which will absolutely fail, but it is a good reason for torture, and torture is a feature, not a bug for the motherfuckers) and/or just keep them locked up, and/or execute them someday

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
13. Nailed it
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:21 AM
Jul 2022

That's exactly the point of all of this. Push us all to suicide, or get us targeted and taken out by a "freedom fighter." That way, we're gone and no longer here "ruining America" and "besmirching god" or whatever. Hence laws like this. Hence allowing teachers to out kids. Hence "groomers" and the flood of hate in the media.

The end goal is getting laws passed allowing them to lock up and "convert" LGBTQ's, or just flat-out executing us. After all, they want one nation under 'god'... OR ELSE.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
15. Or else
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:23 AM
Jul 2022

Or else I'll be the one to blast their asses first. Arm yourself and all the LGBTQ community. Let's be fighters

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
17. My inspiration for that line came from Jello Biafra's version of the Pledge...
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:26 AM
Jul 2022

"One nation under god... or else." And he nailed that too. That's exactly what these Christofascists are doing now. Trying to create a nation where we bow before their god... Or else.

Nope. I have no desire to do so. So I guess all that's left to do is fight back.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
19. I think many of us are
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:30 AM
Jul 2022

Especially since it feels like every other choice has been taken off the table by them.

Irish_Dem

(46,905 posts)
3. How long before pregnant women and LGBTQ kids have to wear identification badges?
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:36 PM
Jul 2022

The GOP wants to be able to identify those they want to harass, bully and kill.

I am beginning to believe in reincarnation. Hitler and his minions have returned in full force.

crickets

(25,960 posts)
7. I decided to look for the answer to my question.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:03 PM
Jul 2022

Turns out both the state of Florida and Leon County have policies regarding bullying, and the new LGBTQ policy is in direct violation.

https://leonclassroomteachers.squarespace.com/s/Civility-Policies-LCTA-CBA-LCS-and-STATE.pdf
(pdf)

https://www.fldoe.org/safe-schools/bullying-prevention.stml

Bullying in schools is of increasing focus for Florida schools, districts, and for the Florida Department of Education. Florida Statute 1006.147, also known as The Jeffrey Johnston Stand Up for All Students Act, requires school districts to adopt an official policy prohibiting bullying and harassment of students and staff on school grounds, at school-sponsored events, and through school computer networks.

Bullying/Harassment Definition:
Systematically and chronically inflicting physical hurt or psychological distress on one or more students or employees that is severe or pervasive enough to create an intimidating, hostile, or offensive environment; or unreasonably interfere with the individual’s school performance or participation.


Hypocrisy. Rules for thee but not for me. How Christian.

Duncan Grant

(8,262 posts)
5. Stop pathologizing kids, ffs. It's malevolent cruelty.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:55 PM
Jul 2022

How about we start notifying each other about the ignorant, superstitious moralists who are abusing innocent kids and their families? That’s the real issue. Social sanctions and isolation of kids is despicable. Adults shouldn’t be a kid’s first bully.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
16. I absolutely agree
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:24 AM
Jul 2022

The problem with these little fascists is they are still kids. They haven't grown up. Ohh, sure, they are legally "adults." But their quit maturing somewhere around their 4th birthdays. It's how we get such "manly men" as Tronald J. Drumpf, who's 76 going on 5.

Since they never grew up, they think they're still allowed to bully kids... Or worse.

Celerity

(43,299 posts)
10. The cruelty is an end in and of itself. It's a revered feature for them, not at all a bug, and their
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:51 PM
Jul 2022

appetite for it is only in its infancy. Go back and read about the insane size of massive mobs of whites at public lynchings back in the day. Look at their insanely evil behaviours. Millions (cumulatively over the course of American history, when counting repeat mob members) of people all over the geographical expanse of the US treated those horrific events like grand picnics and night festivals.

I was going to include pictures of crowds in excess of 5,000, 10,000, but I do not want to offend or hurt anyone here.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
11. Can't bully the adults anymore
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jul 2022

So gotta get the children instead so they'll commit suicide. I want the right to commit suicide. Drink the flavor aid asap

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
12. "Don't Say Gay"... Except of course to out others
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:18 AM
Jul 2022

Then it's perfectly okay to point out innocent people. "That one's gay" or "There's a gay" or "*gasp!!!* That one's transgender!"

Because let's face it. The law isn't about saying gay... It's warning people "Don't BE Gay in Florida... OR ELSE!"

This is going to wind up hurting a lot of kids - both LGBTQ and straight. As far as Governor Elevator Shoes is concerned, mission accomplished. After all, the cruelty is the point.

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