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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,129 posts)
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:38 PM Jul 2022

Why white evangelical Christians are Putin's biggest American fan base

I am confused and sad about the fact that so many evangelicals embrace both Putin and tFG.



https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/russia-ukraine-crisis-complicates-american-white-evangelicals-love-putin-n1290442?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

At this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, which wrapped up over the weekend, Lauren Witzke, a GOP candidate for the Senate in Delaware, said: “Here’s the deal. Russia is a Christian nationalist nation. They’re actually Russian Orthodox. ... I identify more with Putin’s Christian values than I do with Joe Biden.”

This isn’t an uncommon stance among some Republicans and white American evangelicals today, who have previously admired Putin because of the alignment of their beliefs with his about homosexuality, authoritarianism and fealty to former President Donald Trump. Many believe Putin’s nationalism, coupled with their Christian belief, is the way America should be.

A few months ago, it’s likely that not much attention would have been paid to a statement like Witzke’s, nor would her support for Putin be so closely connected to her support for Trump. But in light of Russia's current actions, more pro-Putin American evangelicals are coming into sharp focus. Televangelist Pat Robertson proclaimed that Putin is “being compelled by God” to invade Ukraine — his take on Putin’s motivations is questionable at best, but his support for Putin as part of a divine plan is notable......

But whether or not American evangelicals try to distance themselves from Putin in this current news cycle, they have long gravitated toward the Russian president for his hard-line stance against Muslims and, most importantly, his anti-LGBTQ agenda. Putin’s rhetoric about the nation, the family and the church (in this instance, the Russian Orthodox Church), has captivated many and spurred them to embrace similar kinds of political action here in America. Consider all of the anti-gay and anti-transgender laws that are cropping up in states like Texas and Florida. These laws are part of a constellation of family-focused conservative religious ideals also embraced by Putin and other Eastern European leaders who have clung to a hard line against any so-called “anti-family” ideology.
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Why white evangelical Christians are Putin's biggest American fan base (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 OP
Useful idiots. Turbineguy Jul 2022 #1
White Evangelicals are just White Racists JI7 Jul 2022 #2
Russia is a big, mostly empty country superpatriotman Jul 2022 #3
New Puritans love authoritarians and social heirarchy andym Jul 2022 #4
Witzke is a convert to Orthodoxy. Her mention of Orthodoxy and Russia is a HUGE dog whistle... keep_left Jul 2022 #5
Poot is white, misogynistic, homophobic, racist and a dictator. Thomas Hurt Jul 2022 #6
Most former communists were raised as either atheist or agnostic FakeNoose Jul 2022 #7
The church has definitely lost its' way. Initech Jul 2022 #8
They say this. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2022 #9
Of course he does IngridsLittleAngel Jul 2022 #10
Putler is everything they love in a white, racist, fascist dictator. roamer65 Jul 2022 #11
Putin's Christian Values? Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #12

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
3. Russia is a big, mostly empty country
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:44 PM
Jul 2022

Manifest Destiny should lead these phonies right there. Why stop at the Pacific ocean?

andym

(5,443 posts)
4. New Puritans love authoritarians and social heirarchy
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:44 PM
Jul 2022

just like the original Puritans. Putin is nothing but an authoritarian who on the surface at least promotes traditional social values in Russia.

keep_left

(1,783 posts)
5. Witzke is a convert to Orthodoxy. Her mention of Orthodoxy and Russia is a HUGE dog whistle...
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:49 PM
Jul 2022

...to the chuds, who see Putin as "based and red-pilled", to use their moronic lingo. It's like everything else with the alt-right and alt-right-adjacent idiots; they really, really hate that some people (LGBT+, Jews, women, etc.) have successfully fought for their rights, and the chuds want to stuff them back in the closet. The incels, MRA/PUAs, the alt-right, etc. are all of a piece, with little to no daylight between them.

The alt-right are the ones who need to be forced back into the closet--or rather, put back under the rock from whence they crawled.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
6. Poot is white, misogynistic, homophobic, racist and a dictator.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:52 PM
Jul 2022

Just like the Pig and the God they worship.

These people navigate life on the premise of a dictating God, a patriarchal clergy represented by a dictating male pastor or such like.

They run their families where daddy is the dictator.

What is there not to like with the Pig and Putin.

The Pig wants to be America's Putin and so do the cultists. That is how they get even with the libs and how they will get what they think the world owes them.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
8. The church has definitely lost its' way.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jul 2022

And the fact that it is addicted to Fox News and right wing talk radio is leading this country down a very dark and dangerous path that no one really wants except for these fucking assholes. We may be in uncharted territory in the 2024 election.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
10. Of course he does
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:14 AM
Jul 2022

They want a "leader" like Putin here. They'd love nothing more than a nation where LGBTQ's are tortured to death. They'd love nothing more than a nation where dissent gets people locked up or even executed.

Christian fascism, or Christofascism.

It's just like how we have ones who now openly admit they want a "leader" like Hitler.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
11. Putler is everything they love in a white, racist, fascist dictator.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:08 AM
Jul 2022

Evangelicals are fucking fascist scum.

If there is an Antichrist and he/she/it persecutes them, I am all in.

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