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I rarely post a tweet, but saw the truth in this one (Original Post) mountain grammy Jul 2022 OP
Simple, obvious FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #1
I never looked at it through this lens before...thanks. rubbersole Jul 2022 #6
K&R onecaliberal Jul 2022 #2
So spot on. When will it dawn on the racists... brush Jul 2022 #3
The "reap what you sow" principle won't be a friend to the foolishly non-inclusive gulliver Jul 2022 #4
Good one. Agreed. brush Jul 2022 #5
They believe that they can increase the white population by banning abortion. LiberalArkie Jul 2022 #16
Bingo. nt SunSeeker Jul 2022 #7
BESST EVER usonian Jul 2022 #8
It is frustrating to see nothing but a link. crickets Jul 2022 #12
Thanks. I signed up for reasonably fast internet and about half the tweets still don't show. usonian Jul 2022 #13
Thanks for that, I didn't think to do it mountain grammy Jul 2022 #24
♥️ crickets Jul 2022 #26
Thank you. Schmice3 Jul 2022 #9
Wow! If that doesn't just smack you in the face I don't know what would. Biophilic Jul 2022 #10
CATO Bear Creek Jul 2022 #11
I was hoping someone would punch back a little on this. Thanks. History is important, after all. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #17
Social Security left out domestic workers mountain grammy Jul 2022 #25
CATO Bear Creek Jul 2022 #27
I would correct the last clause to '...Black Americans" bringthePaine Jul 2022 #14
I think that's 20/20 hindsight through a 21st century lens relayerbob Jul 2022 #15
Good points. It's always important, though, to remember that your house........ jaxexpat Jul 2022 #20
Oh, I agree. Certainly racism plays a role in this relayerbob Jul 2022 #23
Great tweet LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2022 #18
Thank you mountain grammy! BaronChocula Jul 2022 #19
"When intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon sop Jul 2022 #21
We really cannot compare to anything from previous centuries question everything Jul 2022 #22

brush

(53,743 posts)
3. So spot on. When will it dawn on the racists...
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jul 2022

that they hurt themselves with such votes?

In 15 years it's said that the US will be a majority minority nation as whites will no longer be over 50% of the population. And it will continue to go down as POCs tend to have more babies.

Maybe then some will realize we're all in the same boat and what's good for the majority is good for them too.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
4. The "reap what you sow" principle won't be a friend to the foolishly non-inclusive
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jul 2022

It's simply stupid not to be inclusive in this day and age, even if you leave aside that it shows poor character.

There's something I call "unintended unselfishness," that I think Republicans (especially) practice. That's when you think you're being selfish and "smart," but you are actually being effectively unselfish. It's the worst of both worlds. You're showing low character and foolishness in the present, and you are also inadvertently and unavoidably setting yourself up to take a lifestyle reduction in the future.

crickets

(25,952 posts)
12. It is frustrating to see nothing but a link.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jul 2022

Copying and pasting the text takes seconds, and is a good idea anyway in case a controversial tweet is deleted. Here you go:

J-L Cauvin - Boston 7/15/22
@JLCauvin
"Big government" won over white Americans under FDR because it was good, necessary and excluded Black people.

"Big government" lost the majority of white Americans (forever?) since 1965 despite the fact that it was good & necessary because it included Black people.
10:28 AM · Jul 3, 2022

usonian

(9,695 posts)
13. Thanks. I signed up for reasonably fast internet and about half the tweets still don't show.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jul 2022

And when I go to twitter, they must load megabytes of javascript (I didn't measure) just to deliver a few lines or text.

I hate the internet as hellified by Dorsey, Page and Brin, Zuck and others.



Biophilic

(3,632 posts)
10. Wow! If that doesn't just smack you in the face I don't know what would.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:52 PM
Jul 2022

So much shifting so fast, so many truths finally being spoken out loud.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
11. CATO
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:58 PM
Jul 2022

This is a CATO talking point and generally false. While there was discrimination by local authorities. Low cost housing and educational opportunities was beneficial. FDR issued Executive Order 8802 Fair Employment Practices Committee.

jaxexpat

(6,803 posts)
17. I was hoping someone would punch back a little on this. Thanks. History is important, after all.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:04 PM
Jul 2022

I'm from people who thought Roosevelt was a golden god. They did their BLM soul-searching in the 30's and my take, 30 years later is that they didn't think a world where your value was determined by your skin color or who your parents were was anything but just plain wrong, morally. They hated Republicans without a moment's hesitation because they saw clearly how close to solution were the nation's problems, but that Republicans sat squarely in the path, an impediment to progress.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
25. Social Security left out domestic workers
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 06:10 PM
Jul 2022

which was what many Black Americans did.. they were left out of Social Security for decades.

Why would this be a CATO talking point when it is generally true? I'm really curious, do you have a link for that?

Yes there are nuances and many in FDR's administration advocated for African Americans, his own wife being one of the loudest, but the New Deal mainly helped white people, that's a fact. but it's important to know that wasn't the intention, it was just the result.

Here's Social Security's explanation and statistics: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v70n4/v70n4p49.html

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
27. CATO
Tue Jul 5, 2022, 05:58 PM
Jul 2022

Go to their website you will find easy enough. As stated before helped black people. It took a long time for agriculture to be unionized also. It is still the most dangerous jobs with little to no regulation. This post with large government arguments is straight from RW play book along with being devisive.

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
15. I think that's 20/20 hindsight through a 21st century lens
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:01 PM
Jul 2022

The far right has NEVER supported big government, and it was successful in the 1940s and 50s because of the Depression and WW2 and the rebuilding of the country and world after that, especially the perceived need for nuclear weapons and a strong military. There was also more social coheion, which the far right hates, since they know that the main method for gaining power is social chaos (hence why Putinand his supporters in the GQP have been pushing it so much harder over the last decade). Certainly the Civil Rights Act and other 1960s social events had an impact, but that was not the driving factor.

jaxexpat

(6,803 posts)
20. Good points. It's always important, though, to remember that your house........
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:10 PM
Jul 2022

no matter how strong, important and glorious is totally dependent on its foundation. All its aspects, the perfections and imperfections, are reflected up even to the roof.

BaronChocula

(1,521 posts)
19. Thank you mountain grammy!
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jul 2022

I try to explain this to anyone that will halfway listen. This explains how Ronald Reagan went from a Big Government lovin' New Dealer to anti-Big Government crusader. And he did it using race-centric dog whistles (welfare queen on Chicago's Southside and strong buck waiting in line to pay for a T-bone with food stamps) Reagan was utterly disgusting.

sop

(10,104 posts)
21. "When intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jul 2022

their commitment to democracy." A paper by political scientists Steven V. Miller and Nicholas T. Davis, "White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy," found a correlation between white Americans’ intolerance and support for authoritarian rule.

question everything

(47,437 posts)
22. We really cannot compare to anything from previous centuries
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:20 PM
Jul 2022

Main difference: "Social Media" and 24 hours news and information.

May have been John Dean who recently said that had Fox been around during Watergate Nixon would have held the office until Jan 20, 1977.

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