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Sun Jul 3, 2022, 12:50 PM

I rarely post a tweet, but saw the truth in this one


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Reply I rarely post a tweet, but saw the truth in this one (Original post)
mountain grammy Jul 3 OP
FoxNewsSucks Jul 3 #1
rubbersole Jul 3 #6
onecaliberal Jul 3 #2
brush Jul 3 #3
gulliver Jul 3 #4
brush Jul 3 #5
LiberalArkie Jul 3 #16
SunSeeker Jul 3 #7
usonian Jul 3 #8
crickets Jul 3 #12
usonian Jul 3 #13
mountain grammy Jul 3 #24
crickets Jul 3 #26
Schmice3 Jul 3 #9
Biophilic Jul 3 #10
Bear Creek Jul 3 #11
jaxexpat Jul 3 #17
mountain grammy Jul 3 #25
Bear Creek Jul 5 #27
bringthePaine Jul 3 #14
relayerbob Jul 3 #15
jaxexpat Jul 3 #20
relayerbob Jul 3 #23
LetMyPeopleVote Jul 3 #18
BaronChocula Jul 3 #19
sop Jul 3 #21
question everything Jul 3 #22

Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 12:53 PM

1. Simple, obvious

and probably not realized by most people

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:32 PM

6. I never looked at it through this lens before...thanks.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 12:54 PM

2. K&R

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:10 PM

3. So spot on. When will it dawn on the racists...

that they hurt themselves with such votes?

In 15 years it's said that the US will be a majority minority nation as whites will no longer be over 50% of the population. And it will continue to go down as POCs tend to have more babies.

Maybe then some will realize we're all in the same boat and what's good for the majority is good for them too.

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:28 PM

4. The "reap what you sow" principle won't be a friend to the foolishly non-inclusive

It's simply stupid not to be inclusive in this day and age, even if you leave aside that it shows poor character.

There's something I call "unintended unselfishness," that I think Republicans (especially) practice. That's when you think you're being selfish and "smart," but you are actually being effectively unselfish. It's the worst of both worlds. You're showing low character and foolishness in the present, and you are also inadvertently and unavoidably setting yourself up to take a lifestyle reduction in the future.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:32 PM

5. Good one. Agreed.

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:01 PM

16. They believe that they can increase the white population by banning abortion.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:34 PM

7. Bingo. nt

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:48 PM

8. BESST EVER

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Response to usonian (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:59 PM

12. It is frustrating to see nothing but a link.

Copying and pasting the text takes seconds, and is a good idea anyway in case a controversial tweet is deleted. Here you go:

J-L Cauvin - Boston 7/15/22
@JLCauvin
"Big government" won over white Americans under FDR because it was good, necessary and excluded Black people.

"Big government" lost the majority of white Americans (forever?) since 1965 despite the fact that it was good & necessary because it included Black people.
10:28 AM · Jul 3, 2022

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Response to crickets (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 02:46 PM

13. Thanks. I signed up for reasonably fast internet and about half the tweets still don't show.

And when I go to twitter, they must load megabytes of javascript (I didn't measure) just to deliver a few lines or text.

I hate the internet as hellified by Dorsey, Page and Brin, Zuck and others.



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Response to crickets (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 06:03 PM

24. Thanks for that, I didn't think to do it

seldom post tweets, but will try to remember that next time.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 06:12 PM

26. ♥️

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:51 PM

9. Thank you.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:52 PM

10. Wow! If that doesn't just smack you in the face I don't know what would.

So much shifting so fast, so many truths finally being spoken out loud.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 01:58 PM

11. CATO

This is a CATO talking point and generally false. While there was discrimination by local authorities. Low cost housing and educational opportunities was beneficial. FDR issued Executive Order 8802 Fair Employment Practices Committee.

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Response to Bear Creek (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:04 PM

17. I was hoping someone would punch back a little on this. Thanks. History is important, after all.

I'm from people who thought Roosevelt was a golden god. They did their BLM soul-searching in the 30's and my take, 30 years later is that they didn't think a world where your value was determined by your skin color or who your parents were was anything but just plain wrong, morally. They hated Republicans without a moment's hesitation because they saw clearly how close to solution were the nation's problems, but that Republicans sat squarely in the path, an impediment to progress.

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Response to Bear Creek (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 06:10 PM

25. Social Security left out domestic workers

which was what many Black Americans did.. they were left out of Social Security for decades.

Why would this be a CATO talking point when it is generally true? I'm really curious, do you have a link for that?

Yes there are nuances and many in FDR's administration advocated for African Americans, his own wife being one of the loudest, but the New Deal mainly helped white people, that's a fact. but it's important to know that wasn't the intention, it was just the result.

Here's Social Security's explanation and statistics: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v70n4/v70n4p49.html

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 05:58 PM

27. CATO

Go to their website you will find easy enough. As stated before helped black people. It took a long time for agriculture to be unionized also. It is still the most dangerous jobs with little to no regulation. This post with large government arguments is straight from RW play book along with being devisive.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 02:53 PM

14. I would correct the last clause to '...Black Americans"

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:01 PM

15. I think that's 20/20 hindsight through a 21st century lens

The far right has NEVER supported big government, and it was successful in the 1940s and 50s because of the Depression and WW2 and the rebuilding of the country and world after that, especially the perceived need for nuclear weapons and a strong military. There was also more social coheion, which the far right hates, since they know that the main method for gaining power is social chaos (hence why Putinand his supporters in the GQP have been pushing it so much harder over the last decade). Certainly the Civil Rights Act and other 1960s social events had an impact, but that was not the driving factor.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #15)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:10 PM

20. Good points. It's always important, though, to remember that your house........

no matter how strong, important and glorious is totally dependent on its foundation. All its aspects, the perfections and imperfections, are reflected up even to the roof.

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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:52 PM

23. Oh, I agree. Certainly racism plays a role in this

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:07 PM

18. Great tweet

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:09 PM

19. Thank you mountain grammy!

I try to explain this to anyone that will halfway listen. This explains how Ronald Reagan went from a Big Government lovin' New Dealer to anti-Big Government crusader. And he did it using race-centric dog whistles (welfare queen on Chicago's Southside and strong buck waiting in line to pay for a T-bone with food stamps) Reagan was utterly disgusting.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:14 PM

21. "When intolerant white people fear democracy may benefit marginalized people, they abandon

their commitment to democracy." A paper by political scientists Steven V. Miller and Nicholas T. Davis, "White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy," found a correlation between white Americans’ intolerance and support for authoritarian rule.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Sun Jul 3, 2022, 03:20 PM

22. We really cannot compare to anything from previous centuries

Main difference: "Social Media" and 24 hours news and information.

May have been John Dean who recently said that had Fox been around during Watergate Nixon would have held the office until Jan 20, 1977.

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