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RAB910

(3,501 posts)
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 08:54 AM Jul 2022

Anyone else creeped out by the scary depiction of MAGA in the Amazon series The Boys?

It's scary and frightening how the series was able to use the same dangerous deranged hero-worship we witness with Trump and show the same type of cult worship for the bad guy "heroes" in The Boys.



MINOR SPOILER ALERT
















It chilled my blood to see the cult followers cheering Homelander after he murdered a heckler... It brought me back to Trump's none hyperbolic claim about shooting a man on 5th avenue


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Anyone else creeped out by the scary depiction of MAGA in the Amazon series The Boys? (Original Post) RAB910 Jul 2022 OP
I thought of that too viva la Jul 2022 #1
you could picture Trump pulling out a gun and doing the exact same thing RAB910 Jul 2022 #2
I'm not creeped out, I already know how those people are. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2022 #3
I wonder if any MAGA cultists are watching the show and how they view this depiction RAB910 Jul 2022 #4
From what I see on social media they're very unhappy with the show. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2022 #7
Kind of scary that it took 3 seasons to see Homelander's true nature RAB910 Jul 2022 #8
The writers are very pointed about Homelander being a Trump figure Sympthsical Jul 2022 #5
I agree, they are not being subtle (although I wonder how MAGA views those scenes) RAB910 Jul 2022 #6
There was a bit with rally goers Sympthsical Jul 2022 #9
not just 2106 footage, it could work with his current rallies as well RAB910 Jul 2022 #11
Interesting. MuseRider Jul 2022 #10
Summary of the show Deep State Witch Jul 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Mariana Jul 2022 #21
If you won't watch anything with men in it Bettie Jul 2022 #22
Homelander is based on TFG Deep State Witch Jul 2022 #12
thanks for sharing the article. The frightening thing is that this is all based on a comic that RAB910 Jul 2022 #14
Series lost me when the fish guy forced the new female recruit to give him a bj! Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2022 #15
That is sort of the point of the whole series. The "good guys" are the "bad guys" RAB910 Jul 2022 #16
"The Boys" was written by Garth Ennis 2006-2012 Midnight Writer Jul 2022 #17
In seasons 2 and 3 they really start to connect the Boys universe with the Trump one RAB910 Jul 2022 #18
There's only so many exploding and crushed heads I can view, ya know? Duncan Grant Jul 2022 #19
If you're sensitive to those sort of things, I could see there being an issue RAB910 Jul 2022 #20
S3:E1 "ant-man" Duncan Grant Jul 2022 #23
I will concede that and a few other things are clearly being done for shock value only RAB910 Jul 2022 #24

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
2. you could picture Trump pulling out a gun and doing the exact same thing
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:16 AM
Jul 2022

and getting the exact same reaction

BlueTsunami2018

(3,491 posts)
3. I'm not creeped out, I already know how those people are.
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:17 AM
Jul 2022

They’re the same people who are happy when the cops gun down a child. That same people who screamed for President Obama to be killed when Idiot Palin called him a terrorist in one of her speeches. The same people who attacked the police on January 6th.

Don’t think for a second that if Piss Wig or any of those loony toon pols publicly executed a protestor on stage that they wouldn’t get that same reaction.

That character Todd is a pretty spot on depiction of a cultist. Fully manipulated by propaganda. When MM knocked him out, I feel like the whole audience cheered. He’s probably the most hated character on the show now.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
4. I wonder if any MAGA cultists are watching the show and how they view this depiction
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jul 2022

I agree, the Todd depiction was spot on.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,491 posts)
7. From what I see on social media they're very unhappy with the show.
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:26 AM
Jul 2022

They identify with Homelander and feel that the show unfairly depicts him (and ultimately them) as a fascist. The weird thing is that they only started noticing this by the third season. Homelander revealed himself to be a true scumbag right off the bat. There was never any ambiguity about him.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
8. Kind of scary that it took 3 seasons to see Homelander's true nature
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jul 2022

like you said, you could tell he was a baddy right out of the gate

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
5. The writers are very pointed about Homelander being a Trump figure
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:19 AM
Jul 2022

I think the spoiler you mention was meant to be exactly what that was.

The rallies, the cable news appearances, etc. The bit about SB just being a media creation that doesn't really exist.

It's not subtle, and I think the writers have come out in interviews and openly said that's what they were doing.

I just binged the whole series over the past month and caught up in time for the season finale.

Such a great show. One of my favorite things about it is their complete willingness to absolutely roast celebrity culture. Brave Maeve, the Deep doing Gal Gadot's horribly tone deaf celebrity "Imagine" video, A-Train doing Kendall Jenner's Pepsi commercial.

Again, they are not subtle.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
9. There was a bit with rally goers
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:31 AM
Jul 2022

And they were saying things like, "He is so authentic. He speaks his mind. He doesn't let anyone control what he says."

And it's just like, "Yep. Heard that before."

They could have just spliced in 2016 campaign footage, and I don't think anyone would notice.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
11. not just 2106 footage, it could work with his current rallies as well
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:49 AM
Jul 2022

doesn't matter what he says or do they find a way to twist things into a positive

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
10. Interesting.
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 09:39 AM
Jul 2022

I will read what you and others say about it. I have little taste for watching anything entitled "The Boys" as I have little interest in anything they may want do or say at the moment.

When I saw it come up on Amazon I thought I would check it out but decided it will always be there and I need some downtime from "Boys and Mens" right now. I will keep it in mind as it does sound rather interesting but I hardly think the time will come in my remaining years that we will see the foot removed from our bodies by "the boys".

What a horrible time to have something to release named that. Probably just me but also probably not.

Deep State Witch

(10,424 posts)
13. Summary of the show
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jul 2022

It's a sendup of superheroes and superhero culture. It is actually a takedown of toxic masculinity. Everyone in the show is screwed up, except for the lead female character. But, fair warning - there is a lot of extreme violence in it right from the start. If you don't like that kind of thing, you won't like it.

Response to MuseRider (Reply #10)

Bettie

(16,091 posts)
22. If you won't watch anything with men in it
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jul 2022

you'll have very little to watch. They are about half of the population.

But, whatever, The Boys is intense, well-made, and funny in a dark, dark way.

Deep State Witch

(10,424 posts)
12. Homelander is based on TFG
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jul 2022

Kripke confirmed it. I know that Giant Freakin Robot is clickbait, but they did carry this story.

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/the-boys-homelander-donald-trump.html

“(Homelander has) always been a Trump analog for me…He has this really combustible mix of complete weakness and insecurity, and just horrible power and ambition, and it’s just such a deadly combo. Of course, he would feel victimized that people are angry that he dated a Nazi…All he ever wants is to be the most powerful person he can be, even though he’s completely inadequate in his abilities to handle it…And those issues just happened to reflect the guy who…was f-cking President of the United States…And it’s a bigger issue than just Trump. The more awful public figures act, the more fans they seem to be getting. That’s a phenomenon that we (The Boys) wanted to explore, that Homelander is realizing that he can actually show them who he really is and they’ll love him for it.”

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
14. thanks for sharing the article. The frightening thing is that this is all based on a comic that
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jul 2022

pre-dates Trump. Scary how easily it was able to adapt the evils of Trump and his movement

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
16. That is sort of the point of the whole series. The "good guys" are the "bad guys"
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 12:46 PM
Jul 2022

rape is just typical for them (and not unlike many right-wingers)

Midnight Writer

(21,749 posts)
17. "The Boys" was written by Garth Ennis 2006-2012
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 01:43 PM
Jul 2022

I've only watched the First Season, but it seems to follow the source material reasonably well.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
18. In seasons 2 and 3 they really start to connect the Boys universe with the Trump one
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jul 2022

with frightening results

Duncan Grant

(8,262 posts)
19. There's only so many exploding and crushed heads I can view, ya know?
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jul 2022

It’s a show designed to feature grotesque FX, not insightful cultural/political parody, imo. I was in for two seasons but season 3 was the stopping point. I find the over reliance on “shock gore” to be — frankly, beneath me. The show could be so much better than it is. Alas.

Tomer Capon is a great actor. I hope he has a career worthy of his talent (after this excess).

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
20. If you're sensitive to those sort of things, I could see there being an issue
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jul 2022

This may be funny to say about what is essentially sci-fi/fantasy, but I think the gore actually adds a touch of realism. The reality is if people had the sort of superpowers that we see in comics and movies, the injuries would be as grotesque as what we see on the show. The bloodless depictions in comics and movies are pretty silly if you think about it.

It's a shame the gore has turned you off, as there is some keen cultural and political parody that you are missing out on.

Duncan Grant

(8,262 posts)
23. S3:E1 "ant-man"
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 03:34 PM
Jul 2022

I want to honor the no spoilers code and also point out the ant-man gratuitously-over-the-top-exploitation scene.

That was my breaking point. An unredeemable transgression.

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