Just read the Uvalde report

[Delarage]

The report starts by describing problems with the school itself, including that the fence was not tall enough to stop the killer. Most schools around here in Delaware are not fenced in.

Problems with the doors not locking are more concerning---including to the building and to one of the attached classrooms. That they have to be locked from the hallway also seems to be a problem; push-button locks from inside seem like they'd be faster.

The school relied on a cell phone alert app to spread the word; in addition to having had almost 50 recent low-level alerts, people were apparently not taking them too seriously or acting too quickly--if they even had their phones handy and had noticed the alert. Teachers actually get reprimanded for being on their phones around here. A coach outside alerted the school as she ran in--and the principal attempted to use the app, but the school had bad internet service and she struggled. If you know it's a REAL THREAT, get on that intercom and make it loud and clear.

The rest I had already heard/seen, for the most part: no communication between the various agencies arriving (mostly due to no one stepping up--Arredondo said he was responding as an officer and therefore did not give himself a "title" upon arriving) but also due to bad radios, etc. Arredondo apparently had a stash of radios that would work together, but dropped the bag in his rush to get inside.

Many people who interacted with the killer, including other customers at the gun shop and his online associates, said he gave off "school shooter" vibes. But he apparently passed a background check.

To me, the real problem is not the size of the fence or whether an alert app worked---it's that disturbed teenagers have such easy access to assault rifles. That's problem number 1. Problem number 2 was the cluster of cowards that stood around for 73 minutes.

[link:https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2022/07/us/uvalde-report-full-document/|

[SickOfTheOnePct]

1. I agree 100%

That the shooter shouldn’t have been able to get the weapon and that the law enforcement response was atrocious.

But I’m also troubled by the casual attitude around keeping the doors locked. That teachers, for various reasons, didn’t have keys, that the door to room 111 was reported multiple times to have locking issues but no work order was submitted, and that teachers would allegedly warn one another when a no-warning inspection was taking place to see if the doors were locked. And like you, I don’t understand why the principal called the police chief instead of blasting a warning over the intercom.

This is not in any way to blame the teachers or the principal or anyone but the shooter. But I do think it’s important to learn whatever we can, if for no other reason than to try to avoid the same mistakes when, not if, but when this happens again.

[Delarage]

3. Yup

If I were a teacher, I'd respond better to a loud, urgent announcement than to my vibrating cell phone sitting on my desk while I'm at the front of the room. It does seem to be a case of "everyone knew 111 didn't lock properly" while at the same time the key people did not know (those who would put in a work order, fix it, etc.). I can see interior doors being open, even propped open at times, but they need to be able to close and lock quickly if an alert is given. Plus the report has a lot of hub-bub about finding a key for the room---but multiple people in the building, including the principal, had master keys. Had there been ANY level of communication, you'd think the locals would be like "You need a key? Here you go!" Also, people weren't even sure there were people in the classroom. Again, ANY level of communication would have helped--since 911 calls were being made. After the initial wave of shooting--most, but not all, of the shooting) and before the police entered, I'm guessing everyone was either dead or playing dead--so it would be hard to know if people were in there with the shooter--unless word about the 911 calls was shared.

[Rebl2]

2. It's

odd that they had several doors that had locks that did not work properly, specifically the ones that were used to enter the building. I would think it would be high priority to get those fixed as well as the schoolroom door locks.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

4. Remember, this report is the work of the Republican Texas Legislature

I’ll wait for the FBI report, Thankyou.

[Delarage]

5. Good point

Also why I had no problem with the newspaper releasing the tape "early"---I had ZERO confidence that the local police would release an unedited account of what happened.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

6. My only problem

was that I feel like the families should have been able to see it first, if they so chose.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

7. Unless you believe

all the witnesses, including the teachers, are lying, I’m not sure why it matters who conducted the hearings

And if what was release in the report isn’t what the witnesses said, you can bet they’ll be public about the discrepancies.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

9. It matters because of the conclusions they will draw

Which will only reinforce their pre-existing ideology.

For example, they decide that every campus in Texas should have armed school staff.

[flying_wahini]

8. It was the last day of school. They had had lots of parents at the school until lunchtime.

Many people were coming and going and the start of summer was hours away.

It’s the guns. Not the locks. And Cowardly Cops.

[Delarage]

10. I agree

But working locks would also be nice. Guns are the #1 problem.