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Raven123

(4,823 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 06:48 AM Jul 2022

I think I missed something in the J6 hearings

There were no calls (or any communication as far as we know) from TFG to the military, Homeland Security, National Guard or any other department/force in an effort to repel the riot. There was communication between Pence and at least Gen. Milley.

When did the latter communication occur?
Did Pence call anyone else?
Did Pence issue an order (did he have the authority?) that mobilized them?


What’s astounding is that Pence knew he couldn’t call TFG.

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I think I missed something in the J6 hearings (Original Post) Raven123 Jul 2022 OP
It's my understanding that Pence called the National Guard shortly after 4 pm Novara Jul 2022 #1
Wow. Wonder what motivated him to call when he called. Raven123 Jul 2022 #2
Pence absolutely needs to testify Novara Jul 2022 #3
The missing SS texts are critical. Were Pence's SS in communication with TFG's SS detail? Raven123 Jul 2022 #4
Or... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #5
I wonder if TFG's SS informed Pence's SS that TFG would not take action Raven123 Jul 2022 #6
Yup. So does Ornato... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #7

Novara

(5,840 posts)
1. It's my understanding that Pence called the National Guard shortly after 4 pm
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 06:56 AM
Jul 2022

And within minutes, the orange fuck called off his goons. My theory is that 1) he was afraid his goons would thing HE sicced the National Guard on them, and 3) he couldn't tell them it was Pence because it makes him look like a pussy.

Raven123

(4,823 posts)
2. Wow. Wonder what motivated him to call when he called.
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 07:02 AM
Jul 2022

TFG tweeted about Pence being a coward at about 2:30. I believe Garland will pursue TFG’s actions over the 187 minutes - simply because it’s so straightforward. If so, Pence may be subpoenaed.

Novara

(5,840 posts)
3. Pence absolutely needs to testify
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 07:19 AM
Jul 2022

He needs to tell the committee and/or the DOJ what the SS were telling him while they were trying to get him out of the Capitol, he needs to explain what he was doing and who he was calling (plenty of photos of him on the phone in the garage that day), and he needs to explain what he did.

It's my understanding that he did not have the authority to mobilize the National Guard but it's clear he knew no one else would make that call.

I'll bet he was talking to individuals about removing the orange fuck via the 25th Amendment and that's one reason he took over. I suspect people told him that the orange fuck sat all afternoon watching the TV with glee and Pence knew the asshole was incapable of doing a thing about the violence. Remember that Pence was a congressperson and I suspect he was really angry that the orange asshole gave the order for the Capitol attack.

I despise Pence but his actions on that day were correct. However, he is a fucking coward if he does not testify. He should actually be volunteering information. So I suspect he is compromised and maybe blackmailed by the orange fuck to keep quiet.

Pence is stupid enough to think he has a political career left. He might still have political viability if he came out and told the country that HE was the only person acting with integrity that day. He acted presidential. But he's a fucking coward and he's afraid to anger the cultists.

2naSalit

(86,528 posts)
5. Or...
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 08:40 AM
Jul 2022

Ornato who could have coordinated their operations?

And was Ornato involved in the Jan 5th war room meetings or any others?

Raven123

(4,823 posts)
6. I wonder if TFG's SS informed Pence's SS that TFG would not take action
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 08:56 AM
Jul 2022

If so, when did that communication take place and is that why Pence made the call? I agree, Pence needs to testify. I don’t care about J6 committee testimony. Grand jury testimony will be essential.

2naSalit

(86,528 posts)
7. Yup. So does Ornato...
Fri Jul 22, 2022, 09:15 AM
Jul 2022

If he hasn't already. I think there are a lot of GJs assembling as more info comes out.

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