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Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 08:15 PM Jul 2022

Ever tried to explain the Electoral College to a non American?

I have.
They think it’s crazy.
They don’t understand how a candidate could get more (and sometimes many million more) popular votes but still not be elected President.
Our nation is so backwards in so many ways and the current GOP wants to take us back even further.
Sigh 😔

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Ever tried to explain the Electoral College to a non American? (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Jul 2022 OP
Maybe you're going about it the wrong way? BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #1
LOL. Which is why a Montanans vote is worth more than a New Yorkers. Funtatlaguy Jul 2022 #2
it worked way back then Skittles Jul 2022 #5
Tell them it's a variation of 3 card monte. Xipe Totec Jul 2022 #3
it had its purpose WAY back in the day Skittles Jul 2022 #4
It makes more sense Zeitghost Jul 2022 #6
That makes sense. Funtatlaguy Jul 2022 #7
Interestingly, yes.... Delarage Jul 2022 #8
And a Parliamentary style of government seems very odd to Americans MichMan Jul 2022 #9
Imagine Trump doing "question time". Funtatlaguy Jul 2022 #10
Parliamentary govt looks good to me. TheBeam19 Jul 2022 #13
You sure about that? MichMan Jul 2022 #15
Just as we would have ousted Bush after TheBeam19 Jul 2022 #16
I did, to a German friend DavidDvorkin Jul 2022 #11
Basically: Open, barren land gets to vote. TheBeam19 Jul 2022 #12
Try explaining it to me so kacekwl Jul 2022 #14
Yeah..I was gonna say..try explaining that to the average voter Deuxcents Jul 2022 #17

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
1. Maybe you're going about it the wrong way?
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 08:20 PM
Jul 2022

Try explaining it this way: The framers of the constitution were deeply afraid the voters would vote for the wrong candidates and the ruling class would lose their power - so they added the EC to the process to make sure the rich and powerful would always have the final say in the process.

That works for me.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
5. it worked way back then
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 08:32 PM
Jul 2022

but now it has give us two incompetent presidents in recent history

we all have access to the same information now, the EC is antiquated

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
6. It makes more sense
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 08:41 PM
Jul 2022

When you explain that the country was originally seen as being a lot more akin to something like the EU, a collection of independent States (which are different than Provinces or administrative regions) joined together for a unified economic and defense effort. It's not a perfect example, but it gives a general idea.

The Presidency and the Senate were intended to be chosen directly by and represented the interests of the various States. The House was intended to represent the people.

Delarage

(2,186 posts)
8. Interestingly, yes....
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 09:10 PM
Jul 2022

Was just talking to a native Australian today at White Clay Creek and the electoral college came up. She said that she had been talking about getting rid of it with someone, and that person said "But then Republicans would never get elected!"

Stop being crazy, then, is what she said she was thinking.

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
15. You sure about that?
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 10:37 PM
Jul 2022

What if the Republicans win congress in the mid terms?

They could vote to replace President Biden with a Republican.

TheBeam19

(344 posts)
16. Just as we would have ousted Bush after
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 10:50 PM
Jul 2022

the 2006 mid-terms.

And just as we would have ousted Trump after only two years into his term.

You could go back through history and “what if” countless scenarios. Do I think it’s a better system than the one with an un-democratic Senate (by design) and that also has a filibuster? I do.


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