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peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 04:50 PM Aug 2022

The News Just Keeps Getting Better For John Fetterman

Anyone who thought John Fetterman's campaign was off the mark, not professional or policy-laden enough or any of the other criticisms leveled at the man, should take the following poll into consideration. Because those of us who live in PA, know that this fight is a do or die moment.

And John Fetterman? He's killing the opposition.

Fetterman: 52% (14+)

vs

Oz: 38%

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/8/2/2114040/-PA-Sen-New-Poll-Has-John-Fetterman-D-Crushing-Oz-R-NJ-52-38

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The News Just Keeps Getting Better For John Fetterman (Original Post) peggysue2 Aug 2022 OP
It sounded like Oz was starting to check out-- viva la Aug 2022 #1
Good news, but it's a peak bucolic_frolic Aug 2022 #2
I have no doubt this will tighten as we head into the post-Labor Day mayhem peggysue2 Aug 2022 #9
Oz is a crappy candidate and will continue Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #20
I agree 100% gab13by13 Aug 2022 #29
I'm not at all sure that will happen. Oz is amazingly incompetent. patphil Aug 2022 #40
Go John! Nt spooky3 Aug 2022 #3
I like Olbermann's take on the carpetbagger PJMcK Aug 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author SergeStorms Aug 2022 #5
Are you talking about Oz or Fetterman? leftieNanner Aug 2022 #7
Oz has Been grifting for years. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #22
Holy smokes! SergeStorms Aug 2022 #36
John Fetterman is going to be a great senator Emile Aug 2022 #6
He will indeed! peggysue2 Aug 2022 #10
Looking as though the voters know that. And they also know that GoodRaisin Aug 2022 #14
Love John Fetterman!! He's the real deal-big man with a big heart and Harvard grad. cornball 24 Aug 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #11
The most recent ad I viewed was tying Fetterman to a 'weak on crime' accusation. peggysue2 Aug 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #19
That's a good question peggysue2 Aug 2022 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #32
if suburbia liked him in the least he would still have a syndicated TV show ZonkerHarris Aug 2022 #35
"I thought Oz had a certain something with 'Suburbia'" BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #46
The #1 attack against Fetterman in central Pa. gab13by13 Aug 2022 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #33
And yet Fetterman supports fracking in the interim...he only said that once good luck GOP types. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #41
The twitter trolling, the right attacks. I think Warnock should hire Fetterman's social media team! ColinC Aug 2022 #12
It's much easier to target Warnock because he's a black man onetexan Aug 2022 #17
Does his opponent also being a black man change the dynamic at all? ShazzieB Aug 2022 #24
No because Warnock is a man of integrity onetexan Aug 2022 #26
I'm thinking Warnock will be okay peggysue2 Aug 2022 #21
Glad to see him over 50%, but... Fiendish Thingy Aug 2022 #13
Close inthewind21 Aug 2022 #15
I do not think it will be close. Oz is a terrible Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #25
I see it with my own eyes here in central Pa. gab13by13 Aug 2022 #31
Shapiro is doing fine at the moment. peggysue2 Aug 2022 #37
MORE! budkin Aug 2022 #16
Wow! There's some great news. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2022 #23
Definitely! peggysue2 Aug 2022 #28
I heard it on the DU that he is like Twitter only? And never talk policies to their satisfaction? JanMichael Aug 2022 #34
Yeah, some can't let that go. And seriously, some have lectured others about not supporting Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #42
Ridiculous Republicans should be ridiculed. Fetterman has done a proper job so far. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #38
I think so too... Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #43
It's a bit like watching Larry Holmes pound Randall Tex Cobb's face for 15 rounds. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #45
Stuffed-shirt campaigns are pass. LakeArenal Aug 2022 #39
We need to win the battle with whatever it takes...the internet is not going anywhere. And a Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #44

bucolic_frolic

(43,048 posts)
2. Good news, but it's a peak
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 04:52 PM
Aug 2022

Reversion to the mean will make a tighter race. Oz can't slip but another 2-4 points and he will bounce. Campaigns are like that.

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
9. I have no doubt this will tighten as we head into the post-Labor Day mayhem
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 05:17 PM
Aug 2022

Still, I am impressed with this polling in the dog-days of summer. I love Fetterman's campaign reaching out with humor and heart, reaching out to everyone, the whole every county, every vote approach.

As for Oz?

He's just a bad, deeply unpopular candidate. Republican leadership has noticed that as well.

See what happens.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
29. I agree 100%
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:08 PM
Aug 2022

Fetterman's margin will grow. I was hoping that Oz would get the nomination, he has dozens of skeletons in his closet. He fucking joined the Turkish military to keep his Turkish citizenship.

I am from Pa. and I predicted that there would be Magats who vote for Fetterman.

I live in central Pa. and have seen a lot of Mastriano signs and have seen only 1 Oz sign, and this is in Trump country.

patphil

(6,150 posts)
40. I'm not at all sure that will happen. Oz is amazingly incompetent.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:47 PM
Aug 2022

The more he says and does, the more that becomes obvious.

PJMcK

(21,997 posts)
4. I like Olbermann's take on the carpetbagger
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 05:01 PM
Aug 2022

He kept referring to him as Droz!

ETA: Our house is in Wayne County. Where are you?

Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
36. Holy smokes!
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:59 PM
Aug 2022

How the hell did that happen? I was replying to the Alex Jones thread and it ended up in the Fetterman post.

Either my mind is completely shot or something weird just happened on DU.

I'll delete it. Thanks for letting me know.

GoodRaisin

(8,908 posts)
14. Looking as though the voters know that. And they also know that
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 05:33 PM
Aug 2022

Oz is just seeking self-aggrandizement and could care less about any of them.

Response to peggysue2 (Original post)

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
18. The most recent ad I viewed was tying Fetterman to a 'weak on crime' accusation.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 05:46 PM
Aug 2022

As Lt Governor, John Fetterman led the Pardons' Review Board and was a strong advocate for reviewing the records of lifers in PA, and then recommending pardons for worthy petitioners, those who had exemplary records while imprisoned and received life-without-parole sentences. It's a Second Chance program.

Oz attempts to make it sound as if Fetterman approves of opening every cell door and permitting violent, vicious criminals to walk free throughout the state. Because fear-mongering is the Republican strong suit.

They've also tried to attach Fetterman to Larry Krasner, the progressive, controversial Philly DA. The right hates Krasner's progressive stance on criminal justice and the Fraternal Order hates the man as well. Oz and his campaign wrangled a baker's dozen of PA Sheriffs calling on Fetterman to clarify his position on criminal justice reform which they have described as 'crazy and dangerous.'

Will it work? Will it chip away at John Fetterman's lead?

So far it has not. But we shall see.

This is going to get ugly.

Response to peggysue2 (Reply #18)

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
27. That's a good question
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:06 PM
Aug 2022

Trump was solidly behind Oz in the primary, even when his supporters were not. In fact, I listened to one Trump supporter say that Trump's advisors were to blame and that Donnie had simply been ill-advised.

Because Donald Trump is never accountable.

Oz's unfavorables are in the high 50s. He just hasn't caught on, at least not yet. Fetterman's trolling has turned the man into a punch line again and again and again.

Never a good thing during an election. Or life in general.

I've read that The Former guy has groused about how bad a campaigner Oz is. If he thinks Oz has no chance, he'll cut him loose.

Response to peggysue2 (Reply #27)

BumRushDaShow

(128,466 posts)
46. "I thought Oz had a certain something with 'Suburbia'"
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 09:17 PM
Aug 2022

The suburbs are purple and some are even blue. And they certainly don't appreciate that he misspelled (multiple times) the name of the town where he supposedly bought his house in!




Sy Snyder
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Have to admit, as someone who grew up in "Huntingdon" and had to explain that it wasn't "Huntingdon Valley," this bugs me.

There is no "Huntington Valley, Pa."

There is only "Huntingdon Valley, Pa."
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4:16 PM · Jun 13, 2022




(it's right outside of Philly)

And for those going across the Betsy Ross Bridge between NJ and PA, they now have a "reminder" -




John Fetterman
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US Senate candidate, PA
NEW BILLBOARD ALERT 🚨

If you commute from NJ to PA (idk like a certain celebrity doctor running for Senate 🙄 ...

then a warm welcome awaits you at the Betsy Ross Bridge 🤗
A billboard that says "Now Leaving New Jersey for Pennsylvania...just like Dr. Oz"
4:21 PM · Aug 2, 2022





Response to gab13by13 (Reply #30)

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
41. And yet Fetterman supports fracking in the interim...he only said that once good luck GOP types.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:52 PM
Aug 2022

He wants to move away from it without hurting folks.

ShazzieB

(16,273 posts)
24. Does his opponent also being a black man change the dynamic at all?
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 05:57 PM
Aug 2022

Or not? I know Republicans aren't big on logic.

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
21. I'm thinking Warnock will be okay
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 05:54 PM
Aug 2022

He's a superior candidate vs Walker who shoots himself in the foot every time he opens his mouth.

Will it be tight? Probably.

In a normal world, Warnock would be 30 pts ahead. But that's not the world we're a-living and it's Georgia.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
13. Glad to see him over 50%, but...
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 05:26 PM
Aug 2022

With 10% still undecided, I expect this race to tighten significantly.

It may not be razor thin, but I still think it will be close.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
25. I do not think it will be close. Oz is a terrible
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 05:59 PM
Aug 2022

Candidate. The fact he has dual citizenship with Turkey is a big turn off for GOP types.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
31. I see it with my own eyes here in central Pa.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:13 PM
Aug 2022

there are no Oz signs, plenty of Mastriano signs. People need to get behind Shapiro because Mastriano has a ton of money backing him.

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
37. Shapiro is doing fine at the moment.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:03 PM
Aug 2022

According to the latest Fox poll, Shapiro is up 10 pts; Beacon has the man up 13. Shapiro's campaign has reportedly raised $25.5 million with $13.5 million cash on hand. Mastriano is far behind in the money department. Doesn't mean he can't or won't catch up. But right now? He's lagging behind, badly.



https://www.racetothewh.com/governor/pa

JanMichael

(24,873 posts)
34. I heard it on the DU that he is like Twitter only? And never talk policies to their satisfaction?
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 06:37 PM
Aug 2022

Pitty that Fetterman ate the little Lamb.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
42. Yeah, some can't let that go. And seriously, some have lectured others about not supporting
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:56 PM
Aug 2022

the candidate who wins even if your candidate lost and you are butt hurt which makes it pretty funny.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,254 posts)
45. It's a bit like watching Larry Holmes pound Randall Tex Cobb's face for 15 rounds.
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 08:11 PM
Aug 2022

Although, so far as I know, Cobb was never a smarmy, entitled scammer.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
44. We need to win the battle with whatever it takes...the internet is not going anywhere. And a
Tue Aug 2, 2022, 07:58 PM
Aug 2022

Laundry list campaign is pretty boring...when was the last time a person won using this tactic?

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