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NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:08 AM Aug 2022

This isn't rocket science.

The documents Trump took---AND HID IN A SAFE AT HIS PRIVATE RESDIENCE---had value to him, which he wanted no one else to have.

They either:

1. Incriminate him with some detail he needed to retain in hard copy form for whatever reason

2. Incriminate others and could be used as blackmail

3. Held value to trade for currency

If they didn't possess any value, he would toss them. I don't buy for a minute he wanted anything for sentimental or historical purposes. We know his mafia ethos.

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This isn't rocket science. (Original Post) NCDem47 Aug 2022 OP
I wonder if any of these have been redacted underpants Aug 2022 #1
I agree. fightforfreedom Aug 2022 #2
Great thread. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #3
+1. Remember he cashed a 13-cent check dalton99a Aug 2022 #4
Of course I know he is a toxic narcissist and ruthless sociopath. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #8
You forget atreides1 Aug 2022 #7
Yes he is not that smart and could have made a stupid mistake. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #9
And he's always had lawyers and fixers which has allowed... brush Aug 2022 #15
Maybe incriminating evidence had others invloved NCDem47 Aug 2022 #10
Of yes, this is something Trump would do for sure. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #11
Probably somewhere he has info on sensitive sources MarcA Aug 2022 #14
"to trade for currency" - that's my bet. Treason. My opinion is that our adversaries have already Firestorm49 Aug 2022 #5
The beauty of it is, if he goes down hard, he will take a bunch of his collaborators with him brewens Aug 2022 #6
They are likely the docs tht... 2naSalit Aug 2022 #12
Could be something fringe, worth big money, that would appeal to Trump? Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #13
There is no evidence that Government documents were in Trump's safe... brooklynite Aug 2022 #16
Good point. NCDem47 Aug 2022 #18
Something incriminating against the FBI/DOJ/US government. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #17
4. A combination of any or all of the above. GoCubsGo Aug 2022 #19
Maybe we'll never know what was retrieved or what was searched for. NCDem47 Aug 2022 #20
 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
2. I agree.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:16 AM
Aug 2022

He doesn't do anything without it in some way he profits off it. He is an Un-imaginable narcissist.

Irish_Dem

(46,880 posts)
3. Great thread.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:22 AM
Aug 2022

1. But why would he keep evidence that would incriminate him?
He would certainly have destroyed that kind of thing.

So evidence to exonerate him?

2. Yes most certainly he would like info which could be used to blackmail his enemies.
Edit to add: Or black mail his minions into silence.

3. Or something he could sell.

The something to sell could range from classified military intel to UFO info.

Anything Trump thought he could turn into cash. Something he had to sit on and didn't cash it in while in the WH.

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
4. +1. Remember he cashed a 13-cent check
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:27 AM
Aug 2022

He doesn't care about sentimental stuff.

People mean nothing to him.

History means nothing to him

Irish_Dem

(46,880 posts)
8. Of course I know he is a toxic narcissist and ruthless sociopath.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:33 AM
Aug 2022

He would keep material that aggrandizes him, but he would display it in public and not hide it.

He would only keep material under lock and key that would directly benefit him in some way.

Also he is not that smart and could have made a stupid mistake.

brush

(53,764 posts)
15. And he's always had lawyers and fixers which has allowed...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:36 AM
Aug 2022

him to always get away with with illegal activities, and being an ex-president, he thought all that was still in effect and that they'll never get a warrant to search his residence.

Wrong. Stealing classified, government documents is a crime and after months of negotiations and only giving up part of what he took, the DOJ finally said enough of this crap. Get a warrant and search the place.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
10. Maybe incriminating evidence had others invloved
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:39 AM
Aug 2022

And IF he was brought down, he could whip out to prove. Very scorched earth.

Irish_Dem

(46,880 posts)
11. Of yes, this is something Trump would do for sure.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:43 AM
Aug 2022

Something that could burn it all down if anyone touches him.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
14. Probably somewhere he has info on sensitive sources
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:01 AM
Aug 2022

and would threaten to publicize it if DOJ didn't cut him a deal.

Firestorm49

(4,030 posts)
5. "to trade for currency" - that's my bet. Treason. My opinion is that our adversaries have already
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:27 AM
Aug 2022

benefitted from the infantile traitor.

He must be stopped from running again for any public office. He must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law to restore confidence in the American people that justice is not blind.

Then we can start to worry about the next Trumpite idiot who will step up to the plate. If we can show that justice works, it could be our first step in quashing the authoritarian aspirations of his fascist clique.

brewens

(13,566 posts)
6. The beauty of it is, if he goes down hard, he will take a bunch of his collaborators with him
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:29 AM
Aug 2022

and they know it. Now is the time to turn on Trump if it's not too late. But they won't really know that will they? They don't know what he has.

2naSalit

(86,515 posts)
12. They are likely the docs tht...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:44 AM
Aug 2022

Are so super secret they cannot be described to the public. That such docs were recovered was reported by Jackie Alamany last night.

That is disturbing.

Irish_Dem

(46,880 posts)
13. Could be something fringe, worth big money, that would appeal to Trump?
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 10:53 AM
Aug 2022

Something fringe but splashy and tabloid material.

He is more like PT Barnum sometimes.

Something he could sell to the the tabloids and make a mint.
Also something that would make him feel special and important.

And also damage US reputation. Show the US government as liars.

Real story behind some US historical event. Something classified.

UFOs, JFK assassination, presidential affairs, moon landing.

Anything the US hid the truth about.....and would make Trump money and make the US look bad for hiding.

He could have asked for this kind of material while in the WH.

Just brainstorming here, and guessing based on Trump's psychopathology and intellectual level.

But would the Garland even care about that kind of thing?

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
16. There is no evidence that Government documents were in Trump's safe...
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:42 AM
Aug 2022

If they had a search warrant for Mar-a-Lago, that would have included searching the safe as a POTENTIAL location for the searchable evidence to date that anything was removed from the safe.

Irish_Dem

(46,880 posts)
17. Something incriminating against the FBI/DOJ/US government.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 11:58 AM
Aug 2022

Something so serious that Trump sees it as his get out of jail card.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
20. Maybe we'll never know what was retrieved or what was searched for.
Tue Aug 9, 2022, 12:05 PM
Aug 2022

So secret and highly classified, the public is not allowed to know.

If the FBI found what they were looking for, it's now back in govt. hands (couldn't Dumbo have made copies?) and that's where it ends. Fueling conspiracy and Q theories for eons.

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