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kpete

(71,953 posts)
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 10:59 AM Aug 2022

Adam Kinzinger warns that some Christians now 'equate Donald Trump with the person of Jesus Christ'

GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois on Tuesday said some Christian circles in the US have been equating former President Donald Trump with Jesus Christ, warning of "tribalistic" behavior that has led voters to "accept anything" to stay within their communities.

During an interview with MSNBC's Alex Wagner, Kinzinger said that many pastors in America have been "failing their congregation" either by preaching Trumpism "from the pulpit" or by refusing to talk about how "corrosive" the ideology is.

"And you have people today that, literally, I think in their heart — they may not say it — but they equate Donald Trump with the person of Jesus Christ," added Kinzinger, who identifies as Christian. "And to them, if you even come out against this 'amazing man Donald Trump,' which, obviously quite flawed, you are coming out against Jesus, against their Christian values."


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Adam Kinzinger warns that some Christians now 'equate Donald Trump with the person of Jesus Christ' (Original Post) kpete Aug 2022 OP
That is truly claudette Aug 2022 #1
Okay! atreides1 Aug 2022 #2
You forgot about that "get out of jail free" card. CrispyQ Aug 2022 #3
This Catholic doesn't even see Jesus and trump on the same planet. calimary Aug 2022 #4
thank you. oldsoftie Aug 2022 #18
Some FAKE Christians, no real Christian remotely approves of Donald Trump RAB910 Aug 2022 #5
Truth Rebl2 Aug 2022 #52
I old enough to remember Dave in VA Aug 2022 #6
Beat them at their own game. That's blasphemy. Baitball Blogger Aug 2022 #7
I always thought of Trump as the Anti-Christ Ray Bruns Aug 2022 #29
No way Trump is the Anti-Christ. Mariana Aug 2022 #55
I always thought of Trump as the Anti-Christ Ray Bruns Aug 2022 #30
of anyone fits the description Hieronymus Phact Aug 2022 #37
"Thou shalt have no other God before me." - Exodus 20:3 NameAlreadyTaken Aug 2022 #8
LOL! Remember the "Golden Calf" Trump statue wearing flag boxers at CPAC last year? OMGWTF Aug 2022 #23
That's a textbook definition of an anti-christ. bullimiami Aug 2022 #9
+1 infullview Aug 2022 #26
Trump is the ANTI Christ Frances Aug 2022 #10
I seem to recall a warning in the bible about this.... infullview Aug 2022 #24
Gullible morons of the fascist cult Mysterian Aug 2022 #11
Warns? They've been doing this for a while now. Initech Aug 2022 #12
Crucify him. milestogo Aug 2022 #13
Give us Barabbas!!! (n/t) Moostache Aug 2022 #42
It seems to mirror the falling religious affiliations? aocommunalpunch Aug 2022 #14
Their version of "Christianity" makes them extremely gullible and susceptible to the grift. HardPort Aug 2022 #15
Good Cop (Jesus) vs. Bad Cop (Satan) -- oldest trick in the world to manipulate the simple-minded OMGWTF Aug 2022 #27
I saw that on Alex Wagner's show last night. Ilsa Aug 2022 #16
Scary, but plausible: tendencies to follow authority and suspend disbelief andym Aug 2022 #17
Anyone who compares the orange maggot who has probably broken all 10 commandments to Jesus kimbutgar Aug 2022 #19
AMEN! TxVietVet Aug 2022 #34
They are not Christians they are cult members. Woodwizard Aug 2022 #20
Well, Trump has certainly embraced the tithing aspect of it. Vinca Aug 2022 #21
As President Trump went to church about 3-4 times per year Jarqui Aug 2022 #22
I think he's only been in church three times in his adult life. dhol82 Aug 2022 #46
"The Passion of the Donald". SergeStorms Aug 2022 #25
THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Aug 2022 #28
Hey, if they need volunteers... Moostache Aug 2022 #44
WWJG? 3825-87867 Aug 2022 #31
JESUS CHRIST musclecar6 Aug 2022 #32
My WHOLE FN family fits exactly this! bluestarone Aug 2022 #33
Nothing religious people say makes any sense to me. mwb970 Aug 2022 #35
Let's ask them to be specific. mwb970 Aug 2022 #36
The thing is, his brainless supporters attribute all of these good qualities to Trump. LaMouffette Aug 2022 #39
Trump got a promotion. LudwigPastorius Aug 2022 #38
At the same time viewing BHO and Joe B Cosmocat Aug 2022 #40
The Gospel according to REPUBLICAN Jesus FakeNoose Aug 2022 #41
Donald Christ Slammer Aug 2022 #43
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2022 #45
their religion is based on pure authoritarianism DBoon Aug 2022 #47
Which is the exact definition of Antichrist AwakeAtLast Aug 2022 #48
The guy without MORALS, that guy? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #49
Jesus Ain't Coming... kentuck Aug 2022 #50
Matthew 24:24 Maeve Aug 2022 #51
👆👆👆 Rebl2 Aug 2022 #53
This has been going on for years. Mariana Aug 2022 #54

claudette

(3,467 posts)
1. That is truly
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 11:02 AM
Aug 2022

a frightening thought. Do they not see how he lived his personal life all these years? It's not something that real Christians would associate with Jesus.

atreides1

(16,062 posts)
2. Okay!
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 11:10 AM
Aug 2022

But what exactly is a "real" Christian?

Ask any of the fanatics and they'll insist that they are "real" Christians, and in the same breath will say that all the others aren't!!!

The truth is that no Christians have ever associated with Jesus, that honor was given to his Disciples and others...but none of them were Christian...most were Jews, who believed in his message!

CrispyQ

(36,410 posts)
3. You forgot about that "get out of jail free" card.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 11:10 AM
Aug 2022

You know, confess your sins, accept Jesus as your savior, & all is forgiven. Plus, you get to do it every week. Act like a prick Monday through Saturday, go to church on Sunday & everything's good.

Dave in VA

(2,035 posts)
6. I old enough to remember
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 11:14 AM
Aug 2022

when John Lennon set the world on fire when he said that the beatles were more popular that jesus christ. (If you are too young to remember then watch the video below.)

Now these same people or the children and grand children are say that the orange hemorrhoid is jesus christ.

What the fuck is going on?



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Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
7. Beat them at their own game. That's blasphemy.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 11:15 AM
Aug 2022

That's a major break with the ten commandments. No other Gods before me.

But, then, there's also the Though shall not bear false witness. These people wouldn't be able to spot the anti-christ if he appeared with horns and hoofed feet.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
55. No way Trump is the Anti-Christ.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 07:27 PM
Aug 2022

The Anti-Christ is supposed to be adored and worshiped by the whole world. Trump couldn't even get the majority of votes in the US in either of his elections.

Mysterian

(4,563 posts)
11. Gullible morons of the fascist cult
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 11:26 AM
Aug 2022

Religion just adds to the insanity.

The raving lunatics will cause disasters.

aocommunalpunch

(4,231 posts)
14. It seems to mirror the falling religious affiliations?
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:00 PM
Aug 2022

People need to have some kind of community and MAGA seems to fill this need for many seeking religion. Glad I left religion behind a while back.

HardPort

(1,474 posts)
15. Their version of "Christianity" makes them extremely gullible and susceptible to the grift.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:23 PM
Aug 2022

Religion is definitely one of humanity's oldest and most enduring cons.

OMGWTF

(3,933 posts)
27. Good Cop (Jesus) vs. Bad Cop (Satan) -- oldest trick in the world to manipulate the simple-minded
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:58 PM
Aug 2022

Nowadays, if someone feels the need to tell me what a great Xitian they are, I say "Thanks for the warning!" And run the other way.

Ilsa

(61,687 posts)
16. I saw that on Alex Wagner's show last night.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:27 PM
Aug 2022

It's scary that these people rationalize TFG's "imperfections", continue to believe in Jesus' perfection, but equate TFG to Christ.

andym

(5,442 posts)
17. Scary, but plausible: tendencies to follow authority and suspend disbelief
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:36 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Wed Aug 17, 2022, 06:04 PM - Edit history (1)

help in maintain religious fervor among a large swath of fundamentalist Christians. God is the ultimate authority, and a leader like Trump attempts to act as an all-powerful earthly authority. To win their trust, Trump mouths traditionalist positions (war against Christmas) and supports religion-favoring justices, requiring absolute loyalty and is willing to lie to convince others by saying whatever he thinks will work regardless of the truth, making him very dangerous. How ironic that Trump embodies much that opposes Jesus' teachings.

kimbutgar

(21,027 posts)
19. Anyone who compares the orange maggot who has probably broken all 10 commandments to Jesus
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:41 PM
Aug 2022

Is not a religion I would follow or respect.

Jarqui

(10,118 posts)
22. As President Trump went to church about 3-4 times per year
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:51 PM
Aug 2022


I don't think he stacks up very well to Christian values ...

What glue are these people sniffing?

dhol82

(9,351 posts)
46. I think he's only been in church three times in his adult life.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:08 PM
Aug 2022

Several times each year is really pushing it.

SergeStorms

(19,108 posts)
25. "The Passion of the Donald".
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 12:58 PM
Aug 2022

And the religious wackos want to be taken seriously? 🙄

All religions start out as cults and then degrade into seriously stupid mass hysteria after that.

Donald on a cross. 🤡 How much would the egomaniacal Trump love to hear that?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
44. Hey, if they need volunteers...
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:53 PM
Aug 2022

I will gladly help nail him to a chunk of wood (all credit to "Peter Pumpkinhead" and XTC!!!)

musclecar6

(1,684 posts)
32. JESUS CHRIST
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:16 PM
Aug 2022


That’s the exclamation many people use when something is unbelievable, ridiculous, completely crazy etc. If ever there was a time to use it, it would be when these MAGA morons equate TFG with Jesus Christ.

bluestarone

(16,830 posts)
33. My WHOLE FN family fits exactly this!
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:18 PM
Aug 2022

I told them to take THEIR God and stay away from my family! Boy this is exactly what i'm dealing with. NEVER thought i'd see this happen with MY Siblings! Just unexplainable. They ALL swallowed HOOK LINE and SINKER!

mwb970

(11,335 posts)
36. Let's ask them to be specific.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:30 PM
Aug 2022

Here is a question for the evangelical trump supporters. As devout Christians, they are no doubt familiar with the Fruits of the Spirit as laid out in Galatians 5:22-23. These are nine characteristics that are deemed necessary for the well-lived Christian life. Here they are:

"love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control"

My question for the evangelical trump supporters is, which of these do you see trump exhibiting on a regular basis in his public and private life?

LaMouffette

(2,016 posts)
39. The thing is, his brainless supporters attribute all of these good qualities to Trump.
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:46 PM
Aug 2022

Just recently, I saw on TV a supporter protesting the FBI search outside Merde-a-Lardo who was asked why she supports Trump. She replied: "I support him because he tells the TRUTH!"

Unbelievable how stupid these people are.

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
40. At the same time viewing BHO and Joe B
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:46 PM
Aug 2022

Decent, honorable family men, and actual practicing Christians, as evil incarnate.

Slammer

(714 posts)
43. Donald Christ
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 01:51 PM
Aug 2022

Worship of Donald as the Christ:

< singing >

Amazing grift, how sweet the sound
That swindled a dupe like me!
I once was lost but now I'm broke
Was blind but now I'm worse.

'Twas grift that taught my heart to fear,
And grift my fears enhanced.
How precious did that grift appear
The hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, tolls and snarks
I have already come,
'Tis grift has robbed my wits thus far
And grift will loot my home.

The Don has promised good to me
His word my hope deludes....

Response to kpete (Original post)

DBoon

(22,336 posts)
47. their religion is based on pure authoritarianism
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 02:10 PM
Aug 2022

You believe everything the preacher says because if you don't you burn in hell forever.

Trump plays to this authoritarian impulse drilled in by religion. To a trump believer, facts are what trump says is true.

AwakeAtLast

(14,120 posts)
48. Which is the exact definition of Antichrist
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 05:08 PM
Aug 2022

I called it 5 years ago, I called him the Antichrist and I meant it.

I grew up in the Methodist Church, and my home Church was taken away from me by charlatans who claimed it would be easy to separate from the Methodist church. These are the same people that Mr Kinzinger is talking about.

Maeve

(42,269 posts)
51. Matthew 24:24
Wed Aug 17, 2022, 05:19 PM
Aug 2022

For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (KJV)

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