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WarGamer

(12,367 posts)
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:12 PM Aug 2022

Trump IS running... he MUST run.

Look at the evidence.

1) Trump Media and Technology Group.

Trump is the majority shareholder in DWAC which has a market cap of $1.1B and at one time was over $3B

If Trump announces a run, Truth Social benefits bigly and DWAC's stock price will surge, Trump makes Billions.

If Trump announces no run, the brand takes a yuge hit and loses value.



2) Impending legal action.

If/when the Garland DoJ indicts Trump, it's going to get dragged through the mother of all delays... not a chance for a trial before 1/25

Trump wins in 24, his new AG calls it all a hoax and prosecution is over. And that's before Trump fires all the DoJ'er and FBI'ers his power will allow.



3) Look at the numbers.

a) Trump rec'd the most voted for POTUS in history by anyone NOT named Biden.

b) Trump has a 2:1 lead over any possible Primary challenger.

c) Trump beats Biden and Harris in head to head polling from earlier this month, Harvard CAPS/Harris Polling



4) Trump is a vengeful bastard. He LIVES to get even. At this stage in his life, NOTHING else matters. He ran in 2016 because Obama made jokes about him. Imagine his motivation for 2024.



5) External factors are favorable for Trump. Most expect economic issues through 2023, maybe longer. Inflation may settle in around 4-5% as the "new normal"... Energy will continue to get more expensive and tumultuous. And lastly, international instability including the proxy war in Ukraine, near war in Taiwan, Kosovo and North Korea rattling the cage again.



Oh yeah, Trump's running. Doesn't matter what Biden or Garland do, he's running.

So, like Global warming... time to prepare.

He's beatable, of course... but it's going to take some forward thinking.

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Trump IS running... he MUST run. (Original Post) WarGamer Aug 2022 OP
He keeps raising the stakes. Turbineguy Aug 2022 #1
That's irrelevant if HIS DoJ is running the show... WarGamer Aug 2022 #2
Should we give up? Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #5
re-read the OP. WarGamer Aug 2022 #9
The OP says 2 things Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #12
My favorite critic... let me explain. WarGamer Aug 2022 #14
No. Because none of the above is going to happen. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2022 #13
Agree 100%. Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #22
WTF? Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #18
Sarcasm. Kingofalldems Aug 2022 #26
To what purpose? Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #34
He'll want assurances first that the fix is in intrepidity Aug 2022 #3
I doubt it evilclown Aug 2022 #4
I've Been Hearing This Bullshit Line About The GOP Dumping Him, For 7 Years Now SoCalDavidS Aug 2022 #7
+1000 nt WarGamer Aug 2022 #10
iirc the GOP is paying his legal bills Lars39 Aug 2022 #6
Is that right? I didn't know that! Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #19
If this is true... Lars39 Aug 2022 #25
That will be hard for him to walk away from. Scrivener7 Aug 2022 #33
I wouldn't be a bit surprised. BlackSkimmer Aug 2022 #8
I look for Liz Cheney to run as an independent Emile Aug 2022 #11
She won't win, of course, but she could steal enough votes to make him lose... TreasonousBastard Aug 2022 #15
Who would she steal from... think about it. WarGamer Aug 2022 #17
Old fashioned Republicans. TreasonousBastard Aug 2022 #32
She would hurt the DEMS. WarGamer Aug 2022 #16
I believe she has her eye on 2028.. albacore Aug 2022 #21
this Kali Aug 2022 #31
He will long since have been pummelled into submission. GreenWave Aug 2022 #20
If we keep the house and get 2 more senators, all this is moot A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #24
No they don't! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2022 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Aug 2022 #29
From a prison cell in Georgia n/t Justice matters. Aug 2022 #27
Loser mobster will lose by even bigger margins. Justice matters. Aug 2022 #30

WarGamer

(12,367 posts)
2. That's irrelevant if HIS DoJ is running the show...
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:15 PM
Aug 2022

People need to understand how dangerous Trump v2.0 would be.

FBI raid at the Obama residence? Done.

Indictments of Biden for Hunter laptop? Done.

Democracy itself, as much as our Constitution allows it? Done.

Kingofalldems

(38,425 posts)
12. The OP says 2 things
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:20 PM
Aug 2022

He's pretty much unbeatable according to polls.

Then it says he is sort of beatable.

These types of posts are so annoying.

WarGamer

(12,367 posts)
14. My favorite critic... let me explain.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:29 PM
Aug 2022

Of course he's beatable.

We've already done it once.

A lot of this we're already doing... need a full court press on voting rights, unprecedented voter registration, voter education... fundraising...

And IF Joe decides NOT to run... a vigorous Democratic Primary.

I was blown away by Obama in 2007/2008... at this point he seems like a "once in a lifetime" figure.

Let's do it again. Someone young... how about female? Someone brilliant and uplifting... someone positive, with a vision based on kindness, humanity and equality. Someone who can transcend politics and Team Blue vs Team Red...

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
13. No. Because none of the above is going to happen.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:24 PM
Aug 2022

What WILL happen, IMO, is that Trump's popularity will continue to fall with the GOP. He can't thrive with indictments, the Dobbs decision, and the J6C revelations. There WILL be indictments because Garland committed himself and the DOJ to investigating and thus, prosecuting-- because Garland ALWAYS falls back on the law and logic.

When indicted, he'll try to mobilize his mob. His civil war will be diminished to skirmishes because the theoretical hordes of activists really don't have the committment to pull on their boots and take the risk of being blown to bits by law enforcement. Posting on RW sites is a lot different than opening fire on a government building. There ARE people who are prone to bloody violence, but they have to have a much stronger motivation than getting irritated that Trump has to show up in Court. After all, it will be on the TV for all of them to watch anyway.

The nation's economic ups and downs also will NOT play a significant role in social/civil unrest because we are now seeing that indicators show an IMPROVED economic outlook, no matter what the popular opinion polls ("Is the country going in the right direction???&quot show. (BTW, that "right direction" question is the biggest nothingburger ever. No one really knows what the question means.).

In sum, there just isn't enough vitriol to foment a civil war or a resurgence in Trump's political power. And there isn't enough of a motivation to get immersed in make-believe arguments to keep Trump's fantasy intact. Right wing media gets a lot of air time, but not enough to sell Trump's fascism to yet more people.

One more thing: watch how the Dems create campaign rhetoric against their GOP opponents. This time we're going to see some effective messaging that the GOP simply can't counter. It's because the GOP is a royal mess.

intrepidity

(7,275 posts)
3. He'll want assurances first that the fix is in
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:18 PM
Aug 2022

and that state legislatures have done all the tweaking that needs to be done to ensure his win.

evilclown

(20 posts)
4. I doubt it
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 03:22 PM
Aug 2022

I believe that the gop will dump him when the charges are filed. They can’t take the chance with this time bomb hanging around their neck.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
7. I've Been Hearing This Bullshit Line About The GOP Dumping Him, For 7 Years Now
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:03 PM
Aug 2022

TFG IS The GOP. They are tied together. Nobody in the GOP is dumping him. He's their Cult Leader. He's Their Jesus.

WarGamer

(12,367 posts)
16. She would hurt the DEMS.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:31 PM
Aug 2022

Think about it.

WHO would be the "base" for Liz?

Answer: Never Trumpers

Who did Never Trumpers vote for in 2020?

Biden.

Trump won't lose a single vote to Liz.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
21. I believe she has her eye on 2028..
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:47 PM
Aug 2022

She's young enough to be prez then. The Repub Party is a fragmented cult, and without trump, they are a mob. Enough will come out about him that he will lose enough following inside the Party that the convention will look like a piranha festival.
She can step in as the Party savior.
The Cheneys play the long game.

GreenWave

(6,663 posts)
20. He will long since have been pummelled into submission.
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:44 PM
Aug 2022

It only gets worse for him. What we need is a campaign to call on corporate media to stop being such willing propaganda boosters for him or we will boycott your $ponSor$.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
23. If we keep the house and get 2 more senators, all this is moot
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 04:51 PM
Aug 2022

2 more senators means the filibuster is gone.

With that done the Lewis Voting Rights act and the other voting rights bills get passed, which means ALL of the voting restrictions put in place over the last couple years go away.

Easier voting means a Democratic landslide and THEY KNOW IT.

Stop worrying about what that Orange anus might or might not do and concentrate on November.

If we lose in November it won’t matter anyway, the country is fucked for a long while.

Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #23)

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
28. No they don't!
Sun Aug 21, 2022, 05:42 PM
Aug 2022

Where do you get that idea?

If someone wants to challenge a new law they have to have standing. Who has standing to argue fewer people should vote?

There is an appeals process that starts at the Circuit Court level and the Supreme Court does not hear every case sent to it.

But never mind. I see what you have going on in this thread.

Be Best, and all!

Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #28)

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