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KS Toronado

(17,155 posts)
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 11:44 AM Aug 2022

Is this the answer to not losing the House?

Let's look at the big picture. The #1 threat to our Democracy is the MAGA Fascist Cult lead by FailCoupGuy.
A lot of these MAGAts will be running for "Down Ballot" positions in the midterms. We'd like to vote them all
out of office correct? So let's flat out attack MAGAts as a group unworthy of political power from top
to bottom.

Can/will the DNC start making 30 or 60 second ads attacking tfg & MAGAts as a group that can't be
trusted with power at all levels of our Government? And flood ABC/CBS/NBC in prime time with the ads?

They could get The Lincoln Project, Meidas Touch, Republicans For The Rule Of Law and all the anti-tRump
R groups to pitch in and help. Remember these are Rs who watched their beloved party go down a
rabbit hole on account of MAGAts and their leader and wanted no part of Fascism.

Get some well known Rs to do some the ads, GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Bill Kristol, Arnold Schwarzenegger,
other trusted people, Dolly Parton, Morgan Freeman, Oprah Winfrey, Robert Redford, etc.

Do it the Joseph Goebbels way, keep telling it over and over and over, flood the airways with anti MAGA
ads telling the truth about their cult movement for the last few weeks leading into the midterms. Would
catch them completely off balance with no time to regroup. Remember the Willie Horton ad?

Show all the Fascist traits the MAGA movement possesses with the "Is This How You Make America Great
Again?" caption/quote.

Show how tfg with his cabinet picks & postmaster general have dismantled their departments.
"Is This How You Make America Great Again?"

Attack the MAGAts voting records protecting tfg, while reminding voters that 50 years ago all repugs
found Richard Nixon guilty. But today only a handful are willing to tell the truth. "Is This How You Make
America Great Again?" caption/quote.

Show clips of the Jan 6th attack, "Is This How tfg planned To Make America Great Again?"

Ask why Putler only invited R Senators to a Moscow July the 4th gathering. "Is This How You Make
Russia Great Again?" caption/quote. And name them.

Find a video clip of tfg pleading the fifth over & over again (440 times) with a catchy question. Do the
same with all his enablers who refuse to talk to the Jan 6th Committee or the DOJ. "Is This How You Make
America Great Again?" caption/quote.

Remind voters a simple DNA test would clear tfg of a rape charge, but he refuses.

Flash photos of Judges, Doctors, Nurses, election workers who have gotten death threats from MAGAts
with a "Is This How You Make America Great Again?" caption/quote.

Show all the Rs who have mentioned Civil War or have said "All Democrats need to die" "Is This How You
Make America Great Again?" caption/quote.

If you haven't guessed it by now, all the ads should have the "Is This How You Make America Great Again?"
caption/quote. Let's use their rallying cry against them because they have done nothing to MAGA.

Don't forget a Roe vs Wade or SCOTUS ad, these are just the tip of the iceberg. Let's SHOW VOTERS
the truth with small ads and pound it into their heads.

Let's flood the airwaves with ads rational people will have a difficult time disagreeing with. Remember the
Willie Horton ad! Two can play this game and we'll do it with truth not exaggerations.

On a side note, do we have undeniable proof of Russia funneling money to the R party? Still wondering
about July 4th & the NRA. "Is This How You Make America Great Again?"

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Is this the answer to not losing the House? (Original Post) KS Toronado Aug 2022 OP
I love it, all good. We need to get ruthless Walleye Aug 2022 #1
We need to get ruthless going into the midterms KS Toronado Aug 2022 #2
Dems appear to have it together this cycle Johnny2X2X Aug 2022 #6
Abortion and contraception freedom needs to be one of the top 2 issues Tetrachloride Aug 2022 #3
With you 100% KS Toronado Aug 2022 #4
YES!!! StrkSrviver Aug 2022 #5
Excellent ideas...K&R Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #7
Thanks coworker, see you at the office! KS Toronado Aug 2022 #24
DNC obviously does not consult DU. They're keeping their powder dry. FOREVER. usonian Aug 2022 #8
yes, " WE HAVE EXISTENTIAL ISSUES FOR DEMOCRACY AND RIGHTS. " KS Toronado Aug 2022 #10
Kick! usonian Aug 2022 #11
This! geardaddy Aug 2022 #18
I think for those of us in districts flipped in 2018 to blue JustAnotherGen Aug 2022 #9
"messaging needs to be a really narrow focus." KS Toronado Aug 2022 #14
Won't work in the 7th District JustAnotherGen Aug 2022 #20
Don't get me wrong we're on the same side being Ds KS Toronado Aug 2022 #23
K&R Bayard Aug 2022 #12
We REALLY need to keep the House. live love laugh Aug 2022 #13
They will impeach Biden in about five minutes RedSpartan Aug 2022 #16
And more manufactured things moonscape Aug 2022 #26
Reminder, Biden won't be convicted by the Senate. brooklynite Aug 2022 #28
Oh Lordy, I wish you could send these ideas to your nearest Democrat! calimary Aug 2022 #15
Thank you Mary! KS Toronado Aug 2022 #21
Oh GOOD!!! calimary Aug 2022 #22
Like her or not, Liz Cheney has just stated she will campaign for Dems running against TFG Crazies. Tommymac Aug 2022 #17
Great concept! summer_in_TX Aug 2022 #19
Kick for visability... Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #25
I agree. Sure, we need to tout the great accomplishments if this administration. But a more powerful Martin68 Aug 2022 #27
Great. I hope the DNC is listening, or some other group to do a massive independent expenditure Liberty Belle Aug 2022 #29

Walleye

(30,984 posts)
1. I love it, all good. We need to get ruthless
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 11:48 AM
Aug 2022

We need to somehow correct the idea among Republicans that the Democratic Party is the great Satan. The Democratic Party is a force for good vote for us

KS Toronado

(17,155 posts)
2. We need to get ruthless going into the midterms
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 11:57 AM
Aug 2022

our Democracy depends on it. MAGA party is the great Satan.

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
6. Dems appear to have it together this cycle
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 12:26 PM
Aug 2022

I've seen the type of messaging I've been waiting for for a long time. I can speak to here in MI, but the messaging has been on point, "Republicans are extremists." Democrats stand with the people on women's rights, on the middle class, and on all of the important issues.

And something that was controversial was Dems backing extremist GOP primary candidates to run against. But at least where I am it is going to pay off in spades. We're going to flip my House seat from a Republican to a very progressive Dem. Whitmer and the Dem SoS and AG will easily win re-election, and we're going to flip the State Senate all while voting to protect abortion rights on a ballot initiative.

Funny thing is, I haven't seen any spending from the Republican side yet, all the TV ads are for Dems. They either don't have the money, know these races are lost causes, or they don't know quite what their messaging is going to be yet.

usonian

(9,698 posts)
8. DNC obviously does not consult DU. They're keeping their powder dry. FOREVER.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 12:41 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17063983

The reason I am jumping up and down and screaming out loud is that DNC seems to be spending a few
months after every new revelation (I think last week there were about 10 of them) and might have a unified message a few months after midterms and at that point, spend a couple of years thinking REAL HARD about the next election.

I would rather "Shotgun" (pardon the analogy) some very important issues to see what sticks at the polls than spend the next 12 months writing a thesis.

WE HAVE EXISTENTIAL ISSUES FOR DEMOCRACY AND RIGHTS.

* EXTREMISM

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217067793
* TAKING AWAY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

That's all you need.

So, wait, deliberate, wait some more. Ask "What if" over and over?

I message until my fingers have calluses from typing. And it's for free. No million-dollar consultants to sit around and "ponder".

MESSAGE LIKE CRAZY
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217021833

LINKS, ACTION ITEMS, Fighting Facts, and ENCOURAGEMENT!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217021793

KS Toronado

(17,155 posts)
10. yes, " WE HAVE EXISTENTIAL ISSUES FOR DEMOCRACY AND RIGHTS. "
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 01:00 PM
Aug 2022

And it's MAGA EXTREMISM, plus the DNC knows this from their polls, they need to act on this threat
in all 50 States. Would help up & down ballot.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
9. I think for those of us in districts flipped in 2018 to blue
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 12:53 PM
Aug 2022

The messaging needs to be a really narrow focus.

Example- I'd love to see ads with Kevin McCarthy and Trump at Bedminster with Tom Kean Jr.

Abortion is a good one, as is IRA, and BBB - example for BBB - Tom Malinowski with Pete Buttigieg at Train ground breaking.

He needs help from the national party more so than Mikie Sherrill or Josh Gottheimer because the state sacrifice the NJ 7th to keep the other ones.

KS Toronado

(17,155 posts)
14. "messaging needs to be a really narrow focus."
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 01:28 PM
Aug 2022

Sorry, I disagree, put all rump's enablers and Magats into one basket and attack that basket in all
50 States 24/7.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
20. Won't work in the 7th District
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 04:05 PM
Aug 2022

Tom Malinowski is defending against Tom Kean Jr. - who never says ANYTHING unless it is to Breitbart. Malinowski edged him out in 2020 by doing everything he could to place distance between himself and the Squad.

They (the GOP) are trying it again. He needs to focus on messaging to lift the SALT Cap, Infrastructure wins, and Abortion/Guns (the last two get GOP women to the polls).


Full disclosure - I'm a Hunterdon County Democratic Committee Member and I know these towns inside and out.

KS Toronado

(17,155 posts)
23. Don't get me wrong we're on the same side being Ds
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 04:34 PM
Aug 2022

I'm attempting to start a national movement (the forest) against ALL MAGAts running for election up and
down ballot by using their LOYALTY TO TRUMP and their slogan against them.

You're talking about what Mallinowski (the tree) needs to do to win reelection. Maybe share this OP with
his office along with your ideas. I hope he wins!

live love laugh

(13,081 posts)
13. We REALLY need to keep the House.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 01:26 PM
Aug 2022

Republicans will definitely turn it into a clown 🤡 show if they take it.

RedSpartan

(1,693 posts)
16. They will impeach Biden in about five minutes
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 02:30 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Mon Aug 22, 2022, 06:23 PM - Edit history (1)

then spend the next two years (at least) "investigating" Hunter's laptop.

Bank on it.

calimary

(81,126 posts)
15. Oh Lordy, I wish you could send these ideas to your nearest Democrat!
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 02:25 PM
Aug 2022

All good. All VERY good.

I like how you think!

KS Toronado

(17,155 posts)
21. Thank you Mary!
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 04:07 PM
Aug 2022

Crazy you should mention sending to all Ds running against MAGAt Rs, when I was at the Doctor's
office today out of the clear blue sky I wondered how come I haven't sent this to The Lincoln Project,
Meidas Touch, Republicans For The Rule Of Law, Rev. Mark Holland who's running against Sen Jerry
Moran one of the July 4th repugs.

Know what I'll be doing the next few hours.

calimary

(81,126 posts)
22. Oh GOOD!!!
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 04:16 PM
Aug 2022

Thank you from me, but thank you from all Democrats!

We’ve GOT TO get our messaging out, and get it out RIGHT FREAKIN’ NOW!!!!!!

All I hear is how Dems are talking about what to do and what/how to message - as the days steadily count down.

JUST DO IT, Dems!

STOP talking about what you’re gonna do. JUST FUCKIN’ DO IT!!!

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
17. Like her or not, Liz Cheney has just stated she will campaign for Dems running against TFG Crazies.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 02:37 PM
Aug 2022

It's a huge start.

And I believe she will damage them heavily. Especially in House and State races.

Gawdess help me, I never want to see her anywhere near the levers of power ever again - but at this time, until further notice, the enemies of the Enemy are my friends.

summer_in_TX

(2,710 posts)
19. Great concept!
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 02:45 PM
Aug 2022

The hard-hitting negative ads would be perfect for democracy-promoting PACs, including Liz Cheney’s new one. But Usonian’s message themes will be more direct.

Our problem with democracy surviving. What life is like under autocrats.

Extremism
Taking away rights and freedoms
Political intimidation from screaming at school board meetings to open carry to death threats
Banning books, banning speech, ideas

Connect it to driving nurses out of the profession and teachers. With the impending collapse of health care system and public education system.

Dallas Morning News exposé of GOP getting huge sums from Russian sources, especially Mitch McConnell.

Definitely raise question about those who spent the 4th of July in Russia, plus Rs celebrating Putin contrasted with reality of Putin’s evil.

Martin68

(22,768 posts)
27. I agree. Sure, we need to tout the great accomplishments if this administration. But a more powerful
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 06:30 PM
Aug 2022

message, and a more important one in the long run, is the we are in an existential fight for our democracy against election deniers, election riggers, voting suppressors, misinformationists (liars), conspiracy theorists, racists, christo-fascist fundamentalists, slimers, book burners, hypocrites, cultists, anti-immigration xenophobes [pause while I catch my breath] incompetents, anti-science know-nothings, ignorant, anti-constitutional, unpatriotic, violent, LGBTQ-bashing fanatics.

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
29. Great. I hope the DNC is listening, or some other group to do a massive independent expenditure
Tue Aug 23, 2022, 01:50 AM
Aug 2022

campaign to get those ads saturating the airways everywhere. Including FOX news if they would run the ads.

Also run them on social media.

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