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EndlessWire

(6,455 posts)
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:26 PM Aug 2022

If someone else has brought this out

I apologize.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-motion-mar-a-lago-search/

He did file for a Special Masters, and to stop the Government from looking at his purloined docs.

Not completely sure how all this will work for him, but 1) he acts like he is so above the normal processes; 2) when's the last time you ever heard of someone just demanding papers that are classified be handed back?

If I were Garland, I'd just figure out how to charge him for absolutely everything I could make stick, including littering, if it were applicable. Donald may be barking up the wrong tree.

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gab13by13

(21,256 posts)
1. Andrew Weissmann said
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:28 PM
Aug 2022

since DOJ has had the documents for 2 weeks, asking for a special master is a little late. It is another delay technique.

EndlessWire

(6,455 posts)
3. You could be right.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:36 PM
Aug 2022

Every day there is another interview of a GOP puke who floats a new excuse for him for having those papers. Today, it is that he just wanted them to write his memoirs. Very little understanding by rank and file GOP how our system works.

The GOP is doing some heavy lifting to protect their boy, but he is looking pretty much like the thief he has shown himself to be. And, the story keeps getting worse.

Deuxcents

(16,085 posts)
5. You can bet they "moved on her (then) like a bitch"
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:44 PM
Aug 2022

When you’re a famous criminal, they’ll do anything to stop the destruction of our institutions..even you, fdg.

onenote

(42,581 posts)
6. In the Giuliani investigation, it was a month before a special master was appointed.
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 11:51 PM
Aug 2022

The fact that the government started using a taint team to review the documents doesn't preclude the appointment of a a Special Master. In the Giuliani investigation, it was a month before a Special Master was appointed.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
2. they are not his documents they are the property of the US Government not Trump .
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:36 PM
Aug 2022

even if he made the claim they were presidential, they are not his. All records in the library system are under the National Archives.

onenote

(42,581 posts)
7. That is not necessarily the case with respect to everything that was seized.
Tue Aug 23, 2022, 12:11 AM
Aug 2022

We don't know what exactly was in the materials collected during the search. Indeed, there would be no need for a "taint team" to be used to review the documents if it was already known that everything collected was covered by the presidential records act. But not every document created during a president's term is necessarily a presidential record. For example, if the records seized included communications between Trump and his personal attorneys, that would be privileged material. And executive privilege comes into play as well when presidential documents are involved (although Trump's not likely to prevail with an executive privilege-based argument in the context of a criminal investigation).

In short, there is a great deal of misunderstanding of the purpose of the Special Master process reflected in DU posts.
See https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2959774

See also: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17067067.

brush

(53,740 posts)
4. The lastest NYT story breaking now that he personally went thru...
Mon Aug 22, 2022, 10:41 PM
Aug 2022

the docs to see which ones to keep over rides any too late special master request. Nice try but too late.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217072326

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. You'd think they would have found some fingerprints by now
Tue Aug 23, 2022, 12:27 AM
Aug 2022

Do Presidents have their fingerprints taken? My guess is yes. They probably get their retinas scanned also. You know, just in case they need to be identified or something.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
13. This motion is not real, it's a mirage. It's Kabuki theater. A Potemkin village.
Tue Aug 23, 2022, 12:36 AM
Aug 2022

The true target of this motion is not the relief specified and sought, nor even the judge, not even the evidence involvrd.. It was written solely for his zombie horde followers. To make it look like he's got this going his way, and to make it appear that he's fighting back, he's running the show here.

Donald Trump is absolutely powerless in all this. HE GETS NOTHING, not 1 thing he demands will he get.

He did file for a Special Masters, and to stop the Government from looking at his purloined docs.THEY'RE NOT HIS DOCS.

Since the Feds have had these docs since the raid, they've been read over, and over, over, already.

Merrick Garland is an experienced professional. He's done this exact same stuff for 40 years. He's a master. He will not put one foot wrong.




EndlessWire

(6,455 posts)
16. One thing I have learned
Tue Aug 23, 2022, 01:02 AM
Aug 2022

is not to presume that everything will go the way we think it should. One trend you can see is that people are striving to bend over backward in deference to Trump. Now, I think a judge should take the middle row. Donald could get a Master just so he will shut up. Such a person could be helpful to the Judge.

Do you ever think that the Special Master might go, "Holy Shit! Lock him up right now!" Either they have something or they don't. Donald sure as hell knows what they took. This is not mystery to him.

So, I don't know exactly what game he is playing. It won't stop the fingerprinting. that's probably done. He might just be trying to find out whether they have some doc or object, like a thumb drive or something, with incriminating info on it.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
14. He is building a Presidential Library
Tue Aug 23, 2022, 12:53 AM
Aug 2022

and needs all the help he can get to fill it with stuff. It's one excuse he has not yet brought up. Semi-nude photos of Melanoma alone won't do the job.

Efilroft Sul

(3,578 posts)
15. With each passing day, Trump proves the Mariana Trench is his Mount Everest.
Tue Aug 23, 2022, 12:55 AM
Aug 2022

And the stench of his corruption reaches so high as to sicken angels.

For goodness' sake — literally for the preservation of all that is still good in this world — indict, arrest, and incarcerate this larcenous fiend and all his cruel confederates!

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