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Trump is going to say that the fact that highly secret documents were mixed in with (Original Post) Raven Aug 2022 OP
I expect there will be 20 different and evolving excuses from TFG. Claustrum Aug 2022 #1
Except VMA131Marine Aug 2022 #2
He will say he didn't pack the boxes, his aides made the mistakes. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #3
Uh-huh VMA131Marine Aug 2022 #5
Yep. But his lying and cheating have always worked for him. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #9
Well...big letters jmowreader Aug 2022 #17
He did that on purpose, I suspect? imanamerican63 Aug 2022 #4
BS...called hiding in plain sight. Demsrule86 Aug 2022 #6
There are already statements Bayard Aug 2022 #7
Well, of course he did jmowreader Aug 2022 #18
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2022 #8
Trumps lies won't work this time. He is screwed and there is nothing to save him this time. fightforfreedom Aug 2022 #11
Oh, no doubt. H2O Man Aug 2022 #14
Right, Trump is going to attack the investigation, the judge, FBI, etc. fightforfreedom Aug 2022 #15
Breaking news: criminal denies crime, invents excuse. unblock Aug 2022 #10
I think Garland is going for Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #12
One of those statutes has the word "retain" MaryMagdaline Aug 2022 #13
There is always an excuse. Always. Initech Aug 2022 #16
Classification is **NOT AN ISSUE** but Benedict Donald possessing docs AT ALL is. On that ... uponit7771 Aug 2022 #19
Obstructing a federal investigation is a felony. fightforfreedom Aug 2022 #20
Is this because TFG didn't give the documents back when requested by the feds? thx in advance uponit7771 Aug 2022 #23
This is very true gratuitous Aug 2022 #22
+1, if SC rules that a verbal declaration of EO is not sufficient enough to change a process ... uponit7771 Aug 2022 #24
"It was the box packers fault! Arrest them!" is my current personal favorite. Saboburns Aug 2022 #21

VMA131Marine

(4,138 posts)
2. Except
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 12:59 PM
Aug 2022

That the documents are marked in big red letters with their classification level on the cover sheet and at the top and bottom of each page. It’s kind of hard to miss.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
9. Yep. But his lying and cheating have always worked for him.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:08 PM
Aug 2022

And he always finds people to take the fall for him.

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
17. Well...big letters
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:38 PM
Aug 2022

Confidential documents, which he didn’t have any of because they don’t sell well, are marked in yellow. Secret documents are marked in blue. Top Secret documents, the ones foreign intelligence services want, are marked in red.

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
18. Well, of course he did
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:47 PM
Aug 2022

“Dmitri, you said you wanted a copy of the Radio Signals Notation Manual? Let me see if I have one.”

If he actually had one though, someone at NSA has some splainin’ to do. There is no way in hell the White House needs one of those. I do understand why he’d want it - a book so big it’s bolted together would definitely catch his eye.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
8. Recommended.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:05 PM
Aug 2022

There are no lies Trump won't tell. However, the number of people who believe his lies will decrease. At the same time, of course, republican politicians will continue to parrot Trump's lies.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
11. Trumps lies won't work this time. He is screwed and there is nothing to save him this time.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:21 PM
Aug 2022

Trump knew he was being investigated. He knew the secret documents were there. The DOJ asked for the documents multiple times, once with a subpoena and Trump obstructed. That is a felony.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
14. Oh, no doubt.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:28 PM
Aug 2022

They only work in the court of public opinion, among the maggot crowd. This is a case in another court context, where his splattering of lies can only hurt him. But in that court of public opinion, he'll continue to lie.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
15. Right, Trump is going to attack the investigation, the judge, FBI, etc.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:32 PM
Aug 2022

That's all he has. He has no defense.


It's a witch hunt will be his favorite lie.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
10. Breaking news: criminal denies crime, invents excuse.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:17 PM
Aug 2022

"As god as my witness, I thought guns don't kill people!"

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
12. I think Garland is going for
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:25 PM
Aug 2022

proof that Trump has already done damage by selling/sharing these documents with foreign adversaries. While mere possesion of these documents is a crime all by itself, Garland is looking for bigger fish to fry. It will be especially damning in a court room if we can name names of people who have been killed/put in danger by these documents being handled the way they were.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
13. One of those statutes has the word "retain"
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:26 PM
Aug 2022

So once the FBI or NARA wrote him the letter stating you have x, y and x, his retention of those documents was illegal.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
19. Classification is **NOT AN ISSUE** but Benedict Donald possessing docs AT ALL is. On that ...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 01:53 PM
Aug 2022

... count TFG is already on its face guilty of a misdemeanor of possessing federal material and not giving it back.

He was told he possessed them by the government and he knew he possessed them and did not hand them over to federal officials in any official way.

The rest of it is cherry on top but ***MINIMUM*** Benedict Donald looks likely to be charged with a misdemeanor possession or taking shit that aint his.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. This is very true
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 02:04 PM
Aug 2022

None of the specifications against the former guy allege that he had wrongfully retained documents of any level of classification (though that could be amended at any time). For once, the former guy has gotten cross-wise with a law that doesn't require a showing of criminal intent.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
24. +1, if SC rules that a verbal declaration of EO is not sufficient enough to change a process ...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 02:09 PM
Aug 2022

... like declassification then Benedict Donald's ass is grass and the DOJ is the lawn mower.

It's something we have to nail down in this country anyway, too many EOs from both parties for me to be comfortable with.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
21. "It was the box packers fault! Arrest them!" is my current personal favorite.
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 02:01 PM
Aug 2022

I imagine they'll be some dandy new lies coming today, as well as the same old standbys.

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