Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:38 PM Sep 2022

On Locus & Lotus

Today, I'd like to speak about the concept of "locus of control." I think it is kind of important, in the context of OPs/threads that I've read over the past 24 + hours, since Judge Cannon released her foul ruling. I anticipate that some (maybe many) will disagree with me, which is fine. However, if you do, please consider replying, so that there may be a meaningful conversation.

"Locus of control" is a concept that applies to individuals and groups. Thus, it spans the fields of psychology and sociology. It can be internal, external, or anywhere in between. A person with an internal locus of control thinks they are able to exert a positive control over many -- but definitely not all -- of the circumstances in their lives.

To illustrate with an example, the great heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali had an internal locus of control. This went beyond thinking he could defeat any and all opponents he faced in the ring. When Uncle Sam drafted him, Ali knew he could not control what the government did. But he could, and did, have complete control on how he responded. He was prepared to stay true to his beliefs while acting on them, come what may.

An external locus of control is found in those who identify as victims of circumstance. They tend to be those who were lied to since they were itty-bitty children. They were not raised to be condident of reaching their potential. They did not get adequate encouragement from parents or teachers in school. They identify as being powerless, helpless, and hopeless.

Most of us fall somewhere in between. We are good at some things, not so good at others. Lots of things we can influence, if not control, including having an idiot for a supervisor at work. Other things, such as the price of groceries, that we might have some control, if only in what we buy.

Groups can influence circumstances, too. Good examples are found in the 2018 and 2020 elections. Now, that didn't give us control over who Trump placed on the federal courts. But it did provide us with the ability to take advantage of having Democrats control what the other two branches of the federal government might do to respond to the current federal judiciary.

Now let's consider a common reaction to "bad news" in individuals and groups. I have the ability to go immediately to "worst case scenario" when confronted with routine medical tests at the doctor's office. I torture myself with thoughts of the pain and suffering that the worst case scenario surely means. Days later, when her office calls to say everything came back good, I always ask, "What aren't you telling me? Is it too horrible for words?" They try to reassure me, despite my request for an prescription for strong placebos.

Some things are too horrible for words. Trump's election in November od 2016 was the very definition of "worst case scenario." Everything he did made it worse than that. That includes the horrible people he placed in the federal courts. It includes the hordes of people who believed him when he said, "I alone can fix it." They have as external locus of control that they believe someone else will "save" them.

I'll take that further. We know his hordes are dangerous. But even that is evidence of an external locus of control. They don't dare go out into public without a gun. Yes, it is a phallic symbol. But it is also Dumbo's feather. People who are confident they can handle themselves don't need Dumbo's feather.

Now, there is anything you or I can do about the loose Cannon on the federal bench. But there are things we can do. If you believe that President Biden is correct about this being a battle for the nation's soul, then work on electing Democrats. If you are mad as hell about Cannon trying to protect Trump, then work like hell to elect Democrats. Do not doubt your ability to make a valuable contribution.

8 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
On Locus & Lotus (Original Post) H2O Man Sep 2022 OP
K&R Docreed2003 Sep 2022 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Sep 2022 #2
Everything they do is subterfuge and distraction. usonian Sep 2022 #3
"Keep your eyes H2O Man Sep 2022 #4
External locus of control Saoirse9 Sep 2022 #5
Very good! H2O Man Sep 2022 #6
I am frustrated Saoirse9 Sep 2022 #7
Trump's turn is coming. H2O Man Sep 2022 #8

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
1. K&R
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:53 PM
Sep 2022

Thank you, as always dear H20 Man. May we all seek to find balance and focus on controlling the things we have power over in our own lives. Let our focus be the lotus, and not merely the mud that brings it forth. It's all to easy to lose our sense of focus and give up a measure of control in our lives when we focus on the mud and muck around us, rather than the beauty of the lotus that is born from that dirt. Thank you for this well timed reminder.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
2. Thank you!
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:57 PM
Sep 2022

The Trump era has been upsetting. No doubt about that. But these are the same people we couldn't stand in grade school on. And there are more of us than them.

usonian

(9,747 posts)
3. Everything they do is subterfuge and distraction.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 11:18 PM
Sep 2022

As with all fascist mobs.

Keep your eyes on the prize. Do what you have control and influence over.

And GOTFV.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217021748

Saoirse9

(3,676 posts)
5. External locus of control
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:32 AM
Sep 2022

Can also mean “look what you made me do” and never taking responsibility for one’s own actions. Trump followers can fall into this category when they commit acts of violence and tell us we made them do it because we stole an election from trump.

We can all take at least some responsibility in some small way to elect democrats. If we don’t we will never be able to stop the mob from acting out their violent instincts and destroying democracy.

The destruction of our democracy is definitely the goal. I don’t even think trump supporters have taken the logical next steps to reason out what happens if they “take back America.” They honestly think they’re patriots.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
6. Very good!
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:49 AM
Sep 2022

"Never taking responsibility" is hitting the nail on the head.

To paraphrase Dr. King (April 4, 1967), we might wish that this was happening at a different time, that it didn't involve us, but here we are. As Democrats, we are taking the responsible actions to keep this country on track. And we will, no doubt in my mind. None.

Saoirse9

(3,676 posts)
7. I am frustrated
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:21 PM
Sep 2022

But still fairly confident that at least 45 will face justice before the end of the year if not before midterms.

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
8. Trump's turn is coming.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:57 PM
Sep 2022


Everything has a turn. The turn of an ant is small, the turn of a tree is big, and mountains -- well they have huge turns.

Cases with the DOJ always take longer than we wish. That is especially true when national security requires coordination with other intelligence agencies and military intelligence. Right now, as you are singing "Turn, Turn, Turn," they are assessing not only what damage has been done, but what further damage Trump has the ability to inflict when he is indicted.

But his turn is coming.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»On Locus & Lotus