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Marius25

(3,213 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:31 AM Sep 2022

How can Garland delay indictment at this point?

Trump stealing nuclear secrets is as serious of a crime as you can possibly get. And we're just going to let him enjoy freedom for months waiting for an election he isn't even on the ballot for?

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How can Garland delay indictment at this point? (Original Post) Marius25 Sep 2022 OP
Unfortunately we've got a Rouge Judge Cannon who went full traitor first BradAllison Sep 2022 #1
And override the Master-Baiting judge's decision? Zambero Sep 2022 #3
I'd love to see Judge Cannon immediately imprisoned. BradAllison Sep 2022 #4
Who are defending her here? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #8
And you know why I can't do that..... BradAllison Sep 2022 #11
You made the accusation, I'd think you'd want to back it up... AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #12
Read the tos BradAllison Sep 2022 #13
So let me get this straight... AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #15
You know what the TOS entails BradAllison Sep 2022 #16
What was last night's news that you're so sorry about? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2022 #17
Unless Trump faces charges, US reputation and trust will remain greatly damaged. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #2
It's infuriating! CrispyQ Sep 2022 #5
Your question implies that Garland is somehow interested in delaying indictments. Beastly Boy Sep 2022 #6
Just a first impression after over a year of watching the man. librechik Sep 2022 #18
No offense, your 'first impression' is based on fact-free speculation. emulatorloo Sep 2022 #20
Channeling my inner Perry Mason: Objection. Calls for speculation. Beastly Boy Sep 2022 #25
It seems to me that Joe Biden's choice for Attorney General Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #19
It is total bullshit, isn't it? emulatorloo Sep 2022 #21
Garland would be an excellent Supreme Court Justice. librechik Sep 2022 #26
Garland isn't the Attorney General because he's a "sentimental favorite," Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #27
Mainly because he still seems to be giving deference Marius25 Sep 2022 #30
Trump is a big target. Just A Box Of Rain Sep 2022 #32
It might be in a few hours or a few years. multigraincracker Sep 2022 #7
A little less perfection and a little more speed, Mr Garland Tetrachloride Sep 2022 #9
'If you go after the king, you better not miss.' emulatorloo Sep 2022 #22
Perfection won't help if the case isn't in the courtroom. Tetrachloride Sep 2022 #24
But perfection is required for the case to reach the courtroom. Beastly Boy Sep 2022 #28
You won't get an indictment nor a conviction w a sloppy/hasty case. emulatorloo Sep 2022 #29
the reason we know Trump was in possession of agingdem Sep 2022 #10
DOJ does not link. Wapo story sounds like it came from intelligence community. emulatorloo Sep 2022 #23
To GP with you! lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #14
How? Just watch. maxsolomon Sep 2022 #31

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
1. Unfortunately we've got a Rouge Judge Cannon who went full traitor first
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:33 AM
Sep 2022

Must be careful. The Trump supporters are fine with going traitor for this guy.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
3. And override the Master-Baiting judge's decision?
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:38 AM
Sep 2022

The screams and howls would be deafening if he was indicted before the documents were reviewed.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
4. I'd love to see Judge Cannon immediately imprisoned.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:41 AM
Sep 2022

She is completely and totally unqualified, and a Trump handpicked shitbird.

But I'm willing to wait until her decision is resoundingly overturned on appeal, and shuts her few defenders here up.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,997 posts)
12. You made the accusation, I'd think you'd want to back it up...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:10 AM
Sep 2022

I mean, if there is a group of MAGATs defending her, I'd think you'd want to expose them.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,997 posts)
15. So let me get this straight...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:41 PM
Sep 2022

You accuse members of being fans of Judge Cannon, but you hide behind the ToS when actually called on your accusations.
Gotcha!

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
16. You know what the TOS entails
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:24 PM
Sep 2022

Which is the point of this exercise, isn't it?

Again, have a blessed day. I'm so sorry for last night's news.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,997 posts)
17. What was last night's news that you're so sorry about?
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:26 PM
Sep 2022

Are you implying that there was some bad news I found out? I'm curious what you think it is. Or are you just trying to sneakily accuse me of supporting TFG? Because that's what it sounds like, what with calling out DUers then hiding behind the TOS and claiming you didn't do that.

Irish_Dem

(46,767 posts)
2. Unless Trump faces charges, US reputation and trust will remain greatly damaged.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:34 AM
Sep 2022

The US has to decide if they want to remain a world superpower or not.

CrispyQ

(36,437 posts)
5. It's infuriating!
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:47 AM
Sep 2022

I can't believe that some judge that he appointed after he lost the election gets to put the brakes on the whole damned investigation when national security is at risk. Our allies must be shitting bricks. The longer we let him walk free & shoot off his mouth the weaker we look as a nation.

Beastly Boy

(9,274 posts)
6. Your question implies that Garland is somehow interested in delaying indictments.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 10:53 AM
Sep 2022

I hope this is not what you meant and you have a different take on what you posted.

But for now I would like to reply with a sobering reminder: if it wasn't for Garland, there would be no raid on Mar a Lago, there would not be evidence of Trump stealing nuclear secrets, and there would not be talk of Garland delaying indictments. If Garland wanted to delay an indictment, would it not have been easier to just not raid Mar a Lago?

librechik

(30,674 posts)
18. Just a first impression after over a year of watching the man.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:29 PM
Sep 2022

And I'm thinking Any competent attorney general could do the same as Garland. Or much better. Even Barr would have indicted by now. This is bad form, sir!

Beastly Boy

(9,274 posts)
25. Channeling my inner Perry Mason: Objection. Calls for speculation.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:15 PM
Sep 2022

Garland is a known. Any other hypothetical AG is an unknown. No grounds for your rosy assumptions regarding any other AG.

A reminder from half a tear ago: how many long term Garland critics anticipated then what Garland accomplished as of now? Not too many. And I am pretty sure none of his accomplishments, significant as they are, changed their attitude. As in the past, impatience is what drives their judgement. No progress seems to affect the pattern of their criticism. Only their expectations get more demanding.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
19. It seems to me that Joe Biden's choice for Attorney General
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:35 PM
Sep 2022

(who was also President Obama's choice for the Supreme Court) gets regularly attacked on this forum.

Nothing suspicious there.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
26. Garland would be an excellent Supreme Court Justice.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:20 PM
Sep 2022

"Sentimental favorite" not the best qualification for AG, IMO. But I love to speculale and watch people get mad at me. Guilty of speculation. My apologies.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
27. Garland isn't the Attorney General because he's a "sentimental favorite,"
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:26 PM
Sep 2022

but rather because he has a brilliant legal mind and a long history as a great prosecutor.

Yet he gets carped at here incessantly.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
30. Mainly because he still seems to be giving deference
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:28 PM
Sep 2022

to the biggest criminal traitor in American history. Sorry, but if any other person on Earth did what Trump did, they'd already be in handcuffs. There would be no, "well let's just let things play out, keep investigating, and wait until after November to do something about the guy who stole nuclear secrets and incites terrorism."

emulatorloo

(44,096 posts)
22. 'If you go after the king, you better not miss.'
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:57 PM
Sep 2022

Garland is right to build a meticulous air-tight case.

Beastly Boy

(9,274 posts)
28. But perfection is required for the case to reach the courtroom.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 02:29 PM
Sep 2022

If a judge doesn't convene a grand jury, or the grand jury finds no reasonable cause to indict, or the defense lawyers manage to plant reasonable doubt in just one of the jurors, reaching the courtroom is meaningless. In fact, it would be harmful.

agingdem

(7,827 posts)
10. the reason we know Trump was in possession of
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:06 AM
Sep 2022

foreign nuclear secrets is because Garland's DOJ did something is never does..it leaked..and it leaked with Garland's permission..Garland wants the outrage, he wants foreign governments to come down on Trump's ass..and he's giving Trump humper Aileen the opportunity to vacate her odious decision..

emulatorloo

(44,096 posts)
23. DOJ does not link. Wapo story sounds like it came from intelligence community.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:58 PM
Sep 2022

This is the first paragraph of the story:

‘A document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and private club last month, according to people familiar with the matter, underscoring concerns among U.S. intelligence officials about classified material stashed in the Florida property.’

lindysalsagal

(20,638 posts)
14. To GP with you!
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:14 AM
Sep 2022

Damned if I know. But it sure looks like they're establishing their case for indictment. If not, these leaks make no sense, letting the world know how much we've screwed up, hiring a gangster (tfg) as president.

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