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Ligyron

(7,617 posts)
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:02 AM Sep 2022

Donald Trump is the most dangerous person since Adolph Hitler.

He may well be even more dangerous if he somehow manages to get elected POTUS again. He’ll destroy all remaining mores and traditions in the political arena and if there’s not a law somehow enacted preventing it; Trump will do it.

Shit, he might do it anyway even if there is a law against it and end up getting away with it.

He certainly Nazified the GOP successfully and they trip all over themselves trying to please the orange menace and gain his favor. Watch that judge in Florida rule that Trump certainly does have executive privilege since Biden isn’t the real President.

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Donald Trump is the most dangerous person since Adolph Hitler. (Original Post) Ligyron Sep 2022 OP
Hitler with thousands of nukes and 840 billion a year military. The World fears also. Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #1
Yes he is, and the threat should be taken seriously. It can happen here. January 6th should have JohnSJ Sep 2022 #2
I think Pol Pot would disagree. Maybe the Hutus have a claim? JanMichael Sep 2022 #3
Yes, I agree PatSeg Sep 2022 #6
1. Pol Pot didn't have thousands of nukes. Justice matters. Sep 2022 #19
Putin does though. JanMichael Sep 2022 #40
He's dangerous because he constantly gets attention jimfields33 Sep 2022 #4
11th Circuit Court sees this. They decided ON THE WEEKEND to protect Top Secret Docs and DOJ probe TigressDem Sep 2022 #5
The Appeals Court is only requiring an expedited response from the Pig. Thomas Hurt Sep 2022 #8
Which prevents him from endless delay of the DOJ process TigressDem Sep 2022 #10
A very rapid response. Tuesday will put tons of pressure... paleotn Sep 2022 #31
Conners Order Remains In Effect DallasNE Sep 2022 #13
That all could have happened anyway. TigressDem Sep 2022 #14
If Dearie is quick, he could review the 100 docs in the next week or so and hand them over... Thomas Hurt Sep 2022 #16
DOJ Is Currently Blocked From Viewing Documents DallasNE Sep 2022 #22
Dearie is the special master. Thomas Hurt Sep 2022 #23
My Bad, The Name Didn't Register But DallasNE Sep 2022 #26
Does he have clearance to view them? paleotn Sep 2022 #32
The Court has not responded Wibly Sep 2022 #20
They could have delayed that order until after the midterms but they didn't. Justice matters. Sep 2022 #25
We have what Hitler's supporters did not have. Turbineguy Sep 2022 #7
Liz Truss is right there with him. Mme. Defarge Sep 2022 #9
Truss: 'I hated being told what to do' peppertree Sep 2022 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2022 #11
I agree. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #12
We need to pull the curtain back and expose the dark money fueling this. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #15
And de Satan's even worse peppertree Sep 2022 #17
Trump is only dangerous as long as the Murdochs want him to be DFW Sep 2022 #21
They started the lying, extremist "entertainment" propaganda catapult to line their pockets. Justice matters. Sep 2022 #29
Stalin & Mao killed more than Hitler. oldsoftie Sep 2022 #24
People don't know much about history Kaleva Sep 2022 #28
True TheProle Sep 2022 #34
If Twitter tells people something often enough, they start to believe it. Kaleva Sep 2022 #38
I guess Hitler IS the "go to" for evil. Probably because WE caught him. oldsoftie Sep 2022 #35
Hitler is the Boogeyman despite Mao's & Stalin's more murderous records. Kaleva Sep 2022 #37
If he truly was, one would think people here would be taking drastic measures Kaleva Sep 2022 #27
Trump is taking the media slings and arrows until they're ready to anoint Jarqui Sep 2022 #30
Evil personified... kentuck Sep 2022 #33
CIA could take care of that. triron Sep 2022 #36
If he's given a second term, he will go full genocidal maniac. Initech Sep 2022 #39
I would say the Republican Party is. chowder66 Sep 2022 #41

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
2. Yes he is, and the threat should be taken seriously. It can happen here. January 6th should have
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:05 AM
Sep 2022

made that clear

JanMichael

(24,875 posts)
3. I think Pol Pot would disagree. Maybe the Hutus have a claim?
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:12 AM
Sep 2022

Then maybe of course Putin is winning the crazy fucking lunatic furher game for now.

Trumpy is an amateur compared to the above nuts post WWII.

I the US maybe but Hitler thus WWII was mentioned. FDR wasn't the problem.

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
6. Yes, I agree
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:57 AM
Sep 2022

I would Putin more in the Hitler category than Trump, though I consider Trump to be extremely dangerous to democracy.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
19. 1. Pol Pot didn't have thousands of nukes.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:09 PM
Sep 2022

2. Pol Pot didn't have 24/7 HD cable networks catapulting Fascist propaganda aimed to install him and his crooked family as the new "royal-family-dynasty" of the Divided States for many millions of dollars in ads revenue (nothing else matter for the Australian-bastards-originated Murdochs).

jimfields33

(15,705 posts)
4. He's dangerous because he constantly gets attention
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:13 AM
Sep 2022

The media and social media write about him numerous times a day. You can’t go to any platform and not see hundreds of threads. I don’t understand why everyone talks about him. I think a better strategy is to ignore him. I mean seriously do we care that he goes to DC on occasions? It’s just so strange the attention he gets. He’s been gone for two years but you never know it.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
5. 11th Circuit Court sees this. They decided ON THE WEEKEND to protect Top Secret Docs and DOJ probe
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:52 AM
Sep 2022



The Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals has quickly responded over the weekend to the Department of Justice’s Motion for Partial Stay Pending Appeal and Ordered Trump to Respond to the Motion by Tuesday. The Department of Justice has argued the 100 classified records should not be subject to the special master process and Judge Cannon’s Order should not include those records.


Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
8. The Appeals Court is only requiring an expedited response from the Pig.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:25 AM
Sep 2022

They haven't made any decision yet.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
10. Which prevents him from endless delay of the DOJ process
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:37 AM
Sep 2022

tRump has not actually said he owns the Top Secret Docs.

They are pushing him to make some reason to keep these.

He lies he loses.

He doesn't have a reason to keep top secret docs.... then they go back to DOJ.



paleotn

(17,884 posts)
31. A very rapid response. Tuesday will put tons of pressure...
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:03 PM
Sep 2022

on Donnie's legal team to come up with better half ass excuses. This usually plays out over a much longer length of time.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
13. Conners Order Remains In Effect
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:46 AM
Sep 2022

Trump lawyers have until Tuesday noon to respond to the DOJ stay request on th classified documents. The 11th Circuit will then issue a ruling on whether to grant the stay. If they grant the stay Trump could then appeal to SCOTUS., which could lift the stay pending a ruling. Their next session starts in October so this could delay a decision until after the November election.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
14. That all could have happened anyway.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:51 AM
Sep 2022

BUT if we can just get the Top Secret Documents out of the deal and then the investigation continues, it is worth a try.

It's a clear and definitive choice that gives both the 11th and SCOTUS an out of supporting what tRump SAYS he is asking for without giving him what isn't his in the first place. Executive Privilege after losing the election.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
16. If Dearie is quick, he could review the 100 docs in the next week or so and hand them over...
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:58 AM
Sep 2022

problem is Loose Cannon probably has to sign off on that. Have to see if she makes up more bee ess to cover for the Pig again.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
22. DOJ Is Currently Blocked From Viewing Documents
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:18 PM
Sep 2022

Including the classified documents that the DOJ needs for its criminal probe, effectively obstructing justice.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
26. My Bad, The Name Didn't Register But
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:48 PM
Sep 2022

My point was that the DOJ has not yet turned over the 100 classified documents so Dearie currently has no access.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
32. Does he have clearance to view them?
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:06 PM
Sep 2022

If not, that's a violation of federal law in itself. And where are the documents physically right now? I doubt DOJ just handed them over as soon as loose cannon ruled.

Wibly

(613 posts)
20. The Court has not responded
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:09 PM
Sep 2022

It has simply directed Trump to respond by Tuesday. It has not addressed the issue contained in the DOJ appeal.
Please leave the hyperbole to the GOP.
All it does is make this poster look like a click baiter, and it also makes the Dem side look stupid thinking a court directive is somehow a response to a complaint.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
25. They could have delayed that order until after the midterms but they didn't.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:36 PM
Sep 2022

The matter is too dangerous to the National Security to sit on their asses. The case could imply real human lives and numerous damages to our Intelligence sources (allied countries are discussing to stop sharing their intel with the US if the traitor's Fascist menace is not contained and if he runs for office with the republiQan states legislatures intents to throw out the results of the 2024 election if they don't like them by selecting their own EC republiQan voters to the NARA).

They KNOW the Rule of Law and the stakes are way to high to sit on their asses. Human-resources and terrorist threats are on the line here!

If they reacted THAT fast, maybe they will allow the DOJ+IC to resume their investigation that Qannon hack halted.

Turbineguy

(37,295 posts)
7. We have what Hitler's supporters did not have.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:24 AM
Sep 2022

Knowledge of how things looked in 1945.

And then came the Nuremburg Trials.

Mme. Defarge

(8,014 posts)
9. Liz Truss is right there with him.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:29 AM
Sep 2022

Excerpts from this article in the 9/22/22 issue of the New York Review of Books.

The Party’s Over
Fintan O’Toole

Truss will take the Tories further down the only path that is open to them, that of anarcho-authoritarianism. Like Johnson, she projects herself as a rebel against authority: “I hated being told what to do and that has driven my political philosophy.” She put forward the legislation that allows British government ministers to break international law by tearing up the Northern Ireland protocol. She has indicated her willingness to withdraw the UK from the European Convention on Human Rights.
This outlawry is underpinned by the language of piracy. A chapter in Britannia Unchained, a 2012 book cowritten by Truss and other rising Conservative politicians, is titled “Buccaneers” and quotes Steve Jobs approvingly: “It’s more fun to be a pirate than to join the navy.” It concedes, with evident reluctance, that “law and order” are “on the whole beneficial.” But it hankers after an ideal of “capitalism as chaos,” the magic that happens “when nearly all society’s strictures are relaxed.” Hence the claim by Truss’s supporter David Frost, who led negotiations of the Brexit deal with the EU and is widely expected to have an important role in a Truss administration, that “what needs to be done [by the new prime minister] will be turbulent and disruptive.”
This promise of disruption is all that remains of Brexit. It can function now only as a fantasy of liberation, not from Brussels but from all restraint on the making of money. Truss’s language evokes a Britain whose only real problem is that its natural exuberance has been constrained by regulation. Hence the recurrence in her rhetoric of “unchain,” “unleash,” “unshackle.” But, as in current US conservatism, these images of freedom must go hand in hand with their opposite. When she is not talking of unshackling everything, Truss is promising to “crack down” on everything. The chains that are to be taken off the moneymakers will be clamped on much of civil society.
In her speeches, and in the way they are reported by her fans in the Tory press, she has promised, so far, to “crack down” on “militant” trade unions, on civil servants who are working from home, on Chinese companies like TikTok, on onshore renewable energy projects, on “unfair protests” by climate activists, on “antisocial” behavior, on illegal migration, and on the “excessive caution” of financial regulators. She is even promising to repress criticism of the dire condition of post-Brexit Britain, warning the democratically elected first minister of the devolved administration in Wales that “I will crack down on his negativity about Wales and about the United Kingdom.” In the pantomimes, it is customary for the audience to cry out against certain assertions made by the characters: “Oh, no, it isn’t.” In this next version of the show, those who dare to make that call will be ejected from the theater.


peppertree

(21,604 posts)
18. Truss: 'I hated being told what to do'
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:05 PM
Sep 2022

In other words, she's an overgrown child.

I didn't realize she had that problem - she comes off more like an embittered, vindictive old maid.

Growing up in Mississippi, they were everywhere.

98% Republican, of course. They went to church on Sunday - and then got busy plotting against others on Monday.

Malice and revenge were the only two things that seemed to give their lives any meaning.

Response to Ligyron (Original post)

FoxNewsSucks

(10,427 posts)
12. I agree.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:46 AM
Sep 2022

And it seems that while most of our elected Democrats realize it also, too many don't realize or underestimate the determination of the fascists to seize and keep power.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
21. Trump is only dangerous as long as the Murdochs want him to be
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:16 PM
Sep 2022

If Fox Noise and the Wall Street Journal decide to pretend he doesn't exist any more, then he ceases to exist. They'll find another figurehead, DeSade, Haley, Cruz-you-lose, it doesn't matter.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
29. They started the lying, extremist "entertainment" propaganda catapult to line their pockets.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:53 PM
Sep 2022

And now, near three decades later, they have competitors (who also want to line their Fascist pockets) on cable.

Not to diminish the daily doses of hate-radio catapults who also want to line their own pockets (and do) role.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
35. I guess Hitler IS the "go to" for evil. Probably because WE caught him.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:27 PM
Sep 2022

Stalin & Mao hid a lot of their killing since they ran a closed society.
We see Putin being exposed in real time because of the internet

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
27. If he truly was, one would think people here would be taking drastic measures
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:50 PM
Sep 2022

The most dangerous man since Hitler warrants more then some posts on a internet discussion board I would think. Unless he actually isn't anywhere the most dangerous man since Hitler.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
30. Trump is taking the media slings and arrows until they're ready to anoint
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:58 PM
Sep 2022

DeSantis - who is far more dangerous than Trump.

kentuck

(111,056 posts)
33. Evil personified...
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:12 PM
Sep 2022

...comes along every two or three generations. We were lucky. We get two. Putin and Trump.

Initech

(100,043 posts)
39. If he's given a second term, he will go full genocidal maniac.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 02:02 PM
Sep 2022

And he'll have Fox News, the Christian right, AM talk radio, and social media propaganda cheering on his every move.

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