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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI still believe Trump is criminally responsible for all the injuries and deaths on jan 6th.
I believe he should be charged for some level of murder. He called the crowd to DC. He riled the crowd up and sent them to the capital. He watched the attack for over 3 hours. He tweeted during the attack and attacked Pence which inflamed the crowd. He watched the violence take place and did nothing.
All of this was premeditated. Everything Trump did that day was a lie. The Trump voter was shot because Trump lied to her. All the cops who died and were injured happened because Trump lied.
The 187 minutes Trump did nothing while watching the violence take place is proof he is guilty. I am tired of hearing people say there is not enough evidence to assure a conviction in a trial. I am tired of cowardly prosecutors. I want Trump charged with every fucking charge possible. Let a jury decide instead of waving a white flag and giving up. You can't fear losing. You may fail on some charges, but others you may not. Charge that piece of shit with everything you can.
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)Sent an armed crowd raises the level of criminality significantly.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Get it to a jury without fear. Let a jury decide. I believe Garland is going to charge Trump and all his fellow traitors with conspiracy, obstruction, fraud. I want more, I want him charged for all the assaults and deaths.
FM123
(10,053 posts)MSNBC legal analyst Barbara McQuade thinks that he is responsible for his deaths too...
Barb McQuade
@BarbMcQuade
I think a strong case can be made that Trump committed 5 counts of manslaughter on Jan 6 by recklessly causing the unintended deaths of others.
Link to tweet
randr
(12,409 posts)Charley Manson never killed anyone
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)I mean, never.
Over 40 years ago, I was a victim of a violent attack. The evidence on my side was overwhelming. Guess how long it took to go from the arrest to a conviction?
Eighteen months. And that was only because I finally got tired of the process, and accepted a plea deal.
When presenting the deal, the prosecutor was honest enough to tell me that the trial probably wouldn't happen for another year, and, worse, with no guarantee of conviction. For an open and shut case, in a court system that wasn't nearly as overwhelmed with cases as our federal judiciary. So I did what I thought was best for me at the time.
I would live to regret that choice, but I was so worn down after 18 months of having to relive what happened over and over again that I couldn't take it anymore. I needed to move on with my life, and I couldn't as long as that was overshadowing everything else.
The judicial process has always been excruciatingly slow, even in courts that aren't as overwhelmed as our post-COVID federal judiciary is. We're not even at the two year point with J6, and you're expecting convictions yesterday? When tens of thousands of people are waiting for their own justice, some of them for far longer than a measley 21 months?
If you can't have patience for J6, try having some for the ordinary people who have been waiting even longer for their day in court.