I haven't watched CNN since it supposedly became Fux Light

[BigmanPigman]

in the past few weeks. I have only turned it on for info regarding extreme weather, maybe a little about Putin and Ukraine.

Has anyone been watching the CNN station before and after this change in programming and if you have do you feel a different perspective or shift in what CNN regularly reported? Have the become more centrist?

[SoCalDavidS]

1. I Haven't Watched CNN In Several Weeks Due To Their New Slant nt

[Jarqui]

2. No

I got rid of cable due to FOX in 2014
I removed the link to their main page in my browser.
I don't stream them.
I complained to some of their personalities via twitter as I did this.

I have read a few CNN items that popped up in Google searches.
That's it

[tritsofme]

3. I stopped watching cable news except for major event coverage over a decade ago.

A much more pleasant existence!

[pwb]

4. I have not been watching CNN it is

hard for me to watch the barrage of commercials over and over and over etc. I mostly stream HULU, Netflix, You Tube and here fills my needs. All cable is against us for the Ad money.

[Takket]

5. no, but i got rid of cable like 2 years ago.

that being said, i did look at cnn.com to keep up with headlines at work and home. i don't visit their website anymore, i go to abcnews.com now.

I would encourage any Democrat to boycott CNN and not watch them or provide hits for their website.

[Hortensis]

6. That's been happening for some years though, and at that CNN's been

working to get its audiences to help keep economic conservatives in power for decades.

So when an anchor restates a guest's condemnation of some Republican action/inaction to make the viewer's takeaway impression be that both parties do it, is that just more of the old or an example of stepping it up? When their recap leaves out a critical fact so that "half a truth makes a great lie," is that old or new?

I think a useful way would be to evaluate new anchors and program stylings on their own. I haven't been watching and taking notes either. Professionals who study media bias no doubt are.

[BigmanPigman]

11. That is a very good analysis

and thank you for the input.

[whathehell]

7. Despite my vow to boycott CNN, l've watched it a couple of times

recently and seen no difference. That said, my viewing "sample" might be too small to draw a conclusion on
any " changes".
.

[brush]

8. I've watched Acosta and Lemon aggresively push back against...

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maga winger talking points by repub guests. Brianna Keilar in the early morning is also still good. The only other CNN host I watch is John King when Andrea Mitchell is on MSNBC, for obvious reasons. He's about the same.

Jake Tapper is still anti-Democrat IMO.

[BigmanPigman]

18. Good input...thanks!

[Meowmee]

9. I stopped watching mostly, but my brother still watches both so I see some sometimes

but not enough to say really. I watched the Queen’s procession to Westminster Abbey and the state funeral on cnn because they had the best audio and perhaps visuals. I have found others on youtube that were good which did not have the often annoying announcing.

When I started watching it they started the procession with the most beautiful bagpipe music and drums, and then all of a sudden they started talking in the middle of it- it was so annoying for them to spoil that. However the version I found on YouTube, I don’t remember that commentary, it had Anderson Cooper, and Christiane Amanpour and 2 other women, I forgot their names now, CA gave very good commentary.

Something she said stuck out to me, that the Queen knew she had to be seen to be believed by the people… during her reign of 70 years and now also at her funeral. It made me think… we need for justice to be “seen to be done” here. More on that but, I need to think about it.

I actually watched fox for a while too, for like 2 minutes, lol, until they started talking about how even though the Queen didn't want a long state service she was still a very religious woman and then started talking about possible terrorism… ugh, 101 on about how to ruin a ceremony with idiotic commentary. That was before this procession started.

Overall the little I have seen seems still swinging right and a bit weird. We are mostly watching msnbc now. I am not usually a big news watcher but my family has been. I guess I take after my mother more that way.

Everything is so crazy now I am ready to toss it all. My brain and emotions are overloaded and I feel like I’m being harassed when I watch news, they always seem to be so aggressive and screeching. I have always hated that, so I often watch with the sound off. How many times can you watch the same crap over and over with nothing really changing?

[budkin]

10. Nope... I only see clips posted on Twitter

Where "both sides" is clearly being forced out onto the viewers thanks to Chris Licht.

[UTUSN]

12. It's bound to fail but worse ending with MURDOCH buying it like the WSJ? - (paywall)

Since the previous CNN experiment sank without getting started, what makes LICHT and his masters think that making it more appealing to Faux zombies will win them over to Faux-LITE?

********QUOTE****

https://www.businessinsider.com/president-trump-pressured-att-to-sell-cnn-to-rupert-murdoch-book-2022-9

Trump used 'almost mob-style extortion' to try to convince AT&T to sell CNN to Rupert Murdoch, new book claims

* Trump and his aides tried to push AT&T's CEO to sell CNN to Rupert Murdoch, a new book claims.
* AT&T's CEO was "beyond pissed," and executives described "almost mob-style extortion," per the book.
* Peter Baker and Susan Glasser's "The Divider," obtained by the Independent, is due to go on sale this week. ...


https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1002&thread=17114388

Turns out LICHT is a longtime wingnut flunky dating back to JoeSCABS, Keith warned us:

Some of us more than others have been referencing how LICHT's hacking away at CNN is surprising given his having been COLBERT's executive producer. Keith has tons of history on him: That LICHT was SCABS's "henchman" at MSNBC, who would scare the head honcho Phil GRIFFIN into cutting guests on Keith's and other MSNBC shows who were deemed to be too Lib or whom SCABS's Repuke friends found offensive (to them) and would threaten that SCABS would "not come in to work tomorrow" if GRIFFIN didn't do the bidding or if GRIFFIN would discipline SCABS for trash talking fellow MSNBC hosts.

I for one hereby apologize for bringing COLBERT into this.

*** ON EDIT P.S. - I remember when bowtie CARLSON had an afternoon circus on MSNBC under a guise of being a "nice" wingnut at that time and his producer was Willie GEIST, and Bowtie would bromance GEIST and bring him on camera lots. Both of them were broadcaster/legacy kids. I stopped watching Morning Scabs in 2012 but watched GEIST and Mika Mouse rehabilitate Scabs, with GEIST cultivating his own mainstream status and spread over into Today, while Bowtie festered into his rapacious Faux self. And I've often wondered what relationship those two have and whether GEIST is a double agent. Mika Mouse, too, now for that matter.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1002&thread=17114388

Keith Olbermann @KeithOlbermann

My full length warning to you about Chris Licht and @cnn

- how at MSNBC he was Joe Scarborough's henchman and got guests on my show, Maddow's, and Schultz's, banned or cancelled - is in Ep. 19 of the Countdown podcast, at about 29:30.

Listen here: https://omny.fm/shows/countdown-with-keith-olbermann/episode-15-countdown-with-keith-olbermann-8-19-22

https://omny.fm/shows/countdown-with-keith-olbermann/episode-15-countdown-with-keith-olbermann-8-19-22

********UNQUOTE*****

[W_HAMILTON]

13. Same.

I purposefully avoid them now, when before, they were usually probably my most watched channel on TV. I usually do most of my TV watching around dinner time, which is especially annoying because all I am left with now is usually Ari Melber (who I'm not a big fan of).

[Elessar Zappa]

14. I honestly don't see much of a difference.

It may be slightly more to the right but I don’t perceive a huge shift.

[uponit7771]

24. +1, the anti CNN articles very few quote Licht directly.... Seems like FUD on surface

[Bev54]

15. Stopped watching a few months ago, for good.

I do turn on CNN international for some news but not when they are showing domestic programs.

[WiVoter]

16. I Have Mostly Stopped, But I Wonder

If there is any info on how their ratings have been.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

17. The only CNN show that I used to watch was Reliable Sources

I watched this show when I remembered to DVR it or when Jonathon Capehart was on vacation

[Just A Box Of Rain]

19. The "supposed" shift at CNN is a right-wing conspiracy theory that was started by ultra-right

source, The Free Beacon.

It is beyond embarrassing that it was then picked up by so many credulous sources on "the left," and that its become "a thing" on this forum.

Right-wingers must be laughing their asses off that some are so easy duped.

But it doesn't stop.

[brush]

20. Hold on a second. The new CEO...

or whatever his title is, met with republican big wigs when he took over to tell them CNN would be more republican.

It's no right wing conspiracy theory. In fact, you're kind of spreading misinformation here. See below.

CNN's new CEO, Chris Licht, has been attending to an audience neglected by the network for the past several years: Republican lawmakers.

The network boss camped out in mid-July in a room on the first floor of the Senate side of the Capitol, S-120, where he asked GOP lawmakers to come talk with him privately. That arrangement avoided alerting the reporters who stalk the halls of the Capitol, sources said...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/8/19/2117719/-CNN-s-new-CEO-met-with-GOP-lawmakers-to-promise-CNN-will-become-more-Republican

[Just A Box Of Rain]

22. That's bullshit.

Licht never said CNN was going to become more Republican.

The Daily Kos is one (of many) confabulators on this matter.

We (rightfully) laugh at the Trumpists when they fall for conspiracy theories, it is sad when "our side" does the same thing.

Are people really that gullible???

[uponit7771]

25. Yes, MAGA are masters at exploiting anchor bias and confirmation bias ....

... especially in a generation that respected print and broadcast news

[brush]

28. See post 27.

[brush]

27. Hmmmm? Let's see, whether to belleve progressive Daily Kos or winger The Free Beacon?

l think I'll go with Daily Kos.

Licht's message, according to one of the lawmakers who sat down with him as well as to several sources briefed on the exchanges: "We want to win back your trust."

[Just A Box Of Rain]

29. Your mistake, as Daily Kos invented reporting that isn't true.

"We want to win back your trust" is NOT the same thing as saying we are "going to become more Republican."

Licht is aiming to make CNN more about straight news and less about opinion, in the best tradition of American television news. Perhaps you are old enough to remember?

That's a great aim IMO, as the straight truth change the Republican more effectively than eye-rolling and name calling does.

[brush]

30. First you were saying the meeting never happened.

Now you're admitting it happened but a phrase I copied and pasted from the article is incorrect.

Is that right?

[Just A Box Of Rain]

32. I NEVER said Licht never met with Republican leaders, why are you confabulating?

There is nothing untoward about a new lead of a news network meeting with the leadership of one of America's two major political parties.

The reporting by Daily Kos (and others) has consisted of inventions, fabrications, and lies.

Do better.

[brush]

33. Didn't you say it was a right wing conspiracy theory...

cooked up by The Free Beacon?

[Just A Box Of Rain]

35. Yes, the story that Licht intends to turn CNN into a right-wing news channel

started as a right-wing originated conspiracy theory that went viral only because the false reporting and invented quotes were taken up by left-wing sources who ran with the bullshit.

[brush]

37. But now you're not denying the meeting happened?

[Just A Box Of Rain]

40. Once again, I have NEVER denied that Chris Licht met with Republican leadership.

The so-called "reporting" of what transpired was false. Licht never said he was turning CNN into a right-wing news channel. Yet I've read on DU that CNN has gone Nazi, fascist, hard-right, etc. when all that is bullshit.

The lack of credulity is hard to take.

[uponit7771]

23. The link never quotes Licht just "according to one of the lawmakers who sat down with him" and

... we all know MAGA pols are inherently liars

[brush]

31. Depends on who you want to believe.

IMO it's a little hard to believe this story was made up from whole cloth by wingers...that Licht, when he took over, was never on a mission to move CNN more to right, and never acted on it.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

34. Not hard to believe at all, if you follow the source I gave you.

I won't link it, even though it might fly as an exception-to-the-rule of linking to right-wing sources, but this all started with the [Washington] Free Beacon.

Then the false reporting was amplified by Lachlan Cartwright at the Daily Beast--a guy who was the executive editor at the right-wing tabloid The National Enquirer, and a reporter with right-wing Murdoch owned papers on both sides of the Atlantic.

Some people seem to believe whatever they read no matter the source. Too bad, as the lies then got picked up by left-wing sources and spread as if they were true. Big mistake.

For liberal democracy to prevail, we need have people who can separate truth from lies and operate from a position of reason.

I fear for the republic.

[brush]

36. Ok. You believe what you want to.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

38. Did you happen to notice that the so-called "article" in the Daily Kos

includes this disclaimer: This content is not subject to review by Daily Kos staff prior to publication

That means anyone can post anything--no matter how false or how much it mirrors right-wing sources--and that it is not subject to any fact-checking, or verification, or editorial oversight--yet some people run with such material as if it is a vetted news source.

Big mistake.

That's what the other side does. We should be better than that.

[brush]

39. I thought you conceded that the meeting happened.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

43. Asked and answered.

Multiple times.

Licht never said CNN was turning Republican or going right-wing. Those things are false. Pure inventions by an unvetted source at the Daily Kos.

Yet the false reporting gets lapped up and turned viral.

It is a sad state of affairs.

[uponit7771]

44. Meeting might have happened but the words are the thing that's important to me and I don't see

... the words Licht are being accused of saying being quoted.

I think I'll hold off and lean toward CNN being static unless I see otherwise cause this looks like FUD

[brush]

45. Read the article. Licht did meet with republicans

in Congress, not Democrats. What do suppose they talked about?

[uponit7771]

46. A meeting doesn't prove Licht said anything close to what is claimed, they've could've talked about

... a myriad of issues and MAGA are liars by association alone so there's no reason to take them seriously.

[Raine]

21. I watch CNN because they actually report news like whats happening in Ukrain etc

and haven't really noticed much if any difference. 🤔

[Chakaconcarne]

26. Don't see any difference.

[brooklynite]

41. No appreciable change that I've seen...

...but I don't watch with a presupposition that they have.

[brooklynite]

42. If you'd like a thoughtful breakdown of what's happening at CNN.....

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dylan-byers-whats-going-on-at-cnn/id1447684472?i=1000580099592