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Tue Oct 4, 2022, 07:56 AM

The news report Trump went through the documents himself is damning evidence.

It looks like there are plenty of witnesses in the secret document investigation which is bad news for Trump. Trump himself decided what documents to send back to the archives and what ones he would illegally keep, hide. Trump fucked up, he usually gets someone else to do his dirty work for him. This time he did the dirty work himself and he is fucked.

I have no doubt Trump is going to indicted. It's just a matter of time.

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Reply The news report Trump went through the documents himself is damning evidence. (Original post)
fightforfreedom Oct 4 OP
niyad Oct 4 #1
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 4 #4
niyad Oct 4 #6
TheBlackAdder Oct 4 #15
Marcuse Oct 4 #19
FoxNewsSucks Oct 4 #23
Genki Hikari Oct 4 #43
lindysalsagal Oct 4 #30
AllaN01Bear Oct 4 #31
niyad Oct 4 #42
gab13by13 Oct 4 #2
Lovie777 Oct 4 #3
gab13by13 Oct 4 #8
FoxNewsSucks Oct 4 #24
Laura PourMeADrink Oct 4 #28
Ms. Toad Oct 4 #26
Takket Oct 4 #5
Botany Oct 4 #7
Lovie777 Oct 4 #10
Botany Oct 4 #13
Laura PourMeADrink Oct 4 #33
Botany Oct 4 #35
Captain Zero Oct 4 #38
kentuck Oct 4 #9
brush Oct 4 #12
Laura PourMeADrink Oct 4 #32
LineReply .
Scrivener7 Oct 4 #11
Johonny Oct 4 #14
malaise Oct 4 #16
FBaggins Oct 4 #17
fightforfreedom Oct 4 #18
Laura PourMeADrink Oct 4 #34
EndlessWire Oct 4 #36
jalan48 Oct 4 #20
FoxNewsSucks Oct 4 #25
jalan48 Oct 4 #39
Dios Mio Oct 4 #21
newdayneeded Oct 4 #40
PlutosHeart Oct 4 #44
Dios Mio Oct 7 #45
SergeStorms Oct 4 #22
rambler_american Oct 4 #27
Paper Roses Oct 4 #29
EndlessWire Oct 4 #37
orleans Oct 4 #41

Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:06 AM

1. Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR**.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:14 AM

4. No. Last thing we need is for the orange anus to become a martyr or make the case moot


He needs to be indicted, tried, convicted, sentenced, and incarcerated. Then he can stroke out if he likes.

If he dies before, then millions will forever after say "he was hounded to death by the deep state" and millions more will believe it and not hear about the traitorous espionage and obstruction.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:17 AM

6. He will be a martyr either way, and I am tired of him wasting our resources.

He is very dangerous.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:59 AM

15. Not that he dies, just becomes like Capt. Pike on the Star Trek pilot episode. beeeeeep beeeeeep

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:54 AM

19. Ouch!

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:07 AM

23. I've always wanted MF45 to live long enough

to be convicted, hear the jail door slam shut, and then die shortly after the humiliation and reality sink in.

But I think I like your fate for him better.

Listening to what everyone says about him, and able to do nothing more than beep beep.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:57 PM

43. I wouldn't even let him beep beep

I'd let him sit there in his soiled diaper for hours moaning and crying.

I'd also have him propped in front of a TV that played nothing but MSNBC 24/7. Maybe for a change of pace, show footage of all the people happy to see Obama.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:35 AM

30. I could live with it. Let me TRY.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:39 AM

31. i want someone to poke him and he goes kabooma.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 01:04 PM

42. I hope that they do it from a distance! Can you imagine the toxic waste

thaat would be released???

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:06 AM

2. Indicting Trump has nothing to do with evidence.

The evidence is there.

When we see Mark Meadows go before a grand jury then expect an indictment. Garland is an institutionalist so he will consider the sanctity between a president and his Chief of Staff. With that said, these stolen document crimes are so egregious that Garland has no choice but to indict. I think.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:09 AM

3. Well hell since he scribbled on them they are his and he can declassify at will . ....

even by thought.

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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:26 AM

8. It is a crime to write notes on classified documents.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:09 AM

24. I'm sure that'll be added to the list of crimes he's committed

and will be charged with if we're just patient a few more years.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #24)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:34 AM

28. Need a ladder already

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:18 AM

26. Generally, it isn't

It is only a crime of the writing destroys the usefulness of the document.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:16 AM

5. It's bad for him if he actually gets indicted.

Right now this is nothing but payments to his lawyers while he goes on about his life happy and free.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:21 AM

7. Trump stole and sold our nation's top secrets. Trump sold or traded those secrets to our ....

.... nation's enemies aka Russia and Saudi Arabia (my guess)

He needs to be indicted, picked up, and locked up ASAP as national security and flight risk.
Trump also took the documents that had to do w/his links to Russia, the dirty 2016 election,
and his work along with others to overthrow our democracy so he could stay in power.

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Response to Botany (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:41 AM

10. North Korea .....

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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:54 AM

13. Well he was laundering money for Oligarchs and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard via his hotel ....

... Azerbaijan so deals with N. Korea would not surprise me. He has no scruples.


https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

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Response to Botany (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:47 AM

33. Think we need someone to figure out how they communicated

Secretly. Remember Jared was caught trying to set up a secret channel before dipshit was even prez. And Obama knew nothing about it.

My point is that if they were interested in secret ways to talk before, you know they somehow figured it out.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #33)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:05 AM

35. We also need to know who helped Trump pick out "the right documents" to steal before he left ...

.... the White House. Because Trump is just semi literate so he had to have had help in selecting
"the right documents." I would bet on Flynn, Stone, and Manafort and as per back channel
communications with Russia/Vlad, Saudi Arabia, China, and ?? I would bet on Erik Prince, Bannon,
Flynn and Manafort. I would not rule out links to Russia via Fox News/Murdoch family. Also it
looks like Merde a Logo was wide open, had the stolen documents and God only knows who all
went through there?*


* https://nypost.com/2022/08/26/ukrainian-woman-inna-yashchyshyn-posing-as-rothschild-family-member-infiltrated-mar-a-lago/

Ukrainian woman posing as Rothschild family member infiltrated Mar-a-Lago: report

I wonder how many of the documents were scanned and made digital PDQ?

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Response to Botany (Reply #35)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:29 AM

38. And no further word on that woman. AT ALL.

nt

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:29 AM

9. Do they have a witness?

How do they know he was packing "secret" documents?

If it is just one witness, it could be rather difficult, in my opinion.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:50 AM

12. One witness is a lawyer who refused trumps order to...

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to tell the NA that all the documents were sent back. Lawyers can knowingly lie.

Another witness saw trump personally go through docs and decide which ones he wanted to keep and which to sent back.

Both things reported this morning on "Morning Joe."

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Response to brush (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:44 AM

32. Do you know when this was? At MAL right?

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:49 AM

11. .

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 08:56 AM

14. Until he's indicted, none of it matters

He's guilty a million ways to one. He said he didn't have documents, had them. Any other human, he's guilty.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:03 AM

16. From Slobby called out for his goons to fight if he were arrested

we knew he was guilty
Lock him up!

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:22 AM

17. Actually, that may be essential to his apparent defense

The ruling that he appears to be relying on appears to say that the determination between "presidential records" and "personal records" is at the president's sole discretion to make. Now... that's supposed to happen as the records is created. But it could damage that defense (which might not be made for months) to have someone else segregate things based on their own interpretation of what belonged in each category.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:50 AM

18. He has no defense.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:52 AM

34. Now that's very interesting. Wonder who the corrupt

Lawyer is who's analyzing laws for him. Definitely adds to motive.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:06 AM

36. How to put this

The dude stole top secret, classified documents. Got caught red handed. Multiple documents. To me, there is no way that he can claim those documents are his, a "Presidential record," or anything but what they are. That should get him twenty years in Supermax. So, to me it's small potatoes trying to figure out if his grocery list is a Presidential record, for which there is no penalty under PRA.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:56 AM

20. If the DOJ waits long enough the Republican's will have non-stop, breaking

news scandal investigations of Democrats when they win back control of the House and/or Senate. The media will love and hype these investigations ad nauseum.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:11 AM

25. That's what they're counting on.

Next year at this time, corporate media coverage may well be "tRump who?"

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:16 PM

39. Timing is everything and we're all hoping Garland gets it. We shall see

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 09:58 AM

21. Time

We are running out of time. He is going to walk.

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Response to Dios Mio (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:29 PM

40. I think you're right.

There's enough evidence there that would have you or I in our 3rd day of trial already.

I've said this before here, I'm guessing there were risk assessments done about how much civil unrest it would cause with an indictment that showed a too dangerous situation. The feet dragging is on purpose.

He's too big to be indicted.

I sooooooo hope I'm wrong!

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Response to newdayneeded (Reply #40)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 05:19 PM

44. Most likely SC will take this case

and somehow make up in their make believe denial land that he still retains some Executive Privilege. I have seen this coming for a long time. This is all too slow and orange pile should have been in jail. Period.

SCOTUS makes it up as they go. And exactly how will that be fixed? It will not.

Sorry I am so bitter and pissed right now. I need a drink I think.

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Response to PlutosHeart (Reply #44)

Fri Oct 7, 2022, 02:47 AM

45. He must

have a crystal ball. That extra padding on the Supreme Court is about to go ching ching ching.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:02 AM

22. Trump hardly knew Trump.

He might have been the covfefe boy for a short time, but I doubt Trump would be able to recognize Trump and pick him out in a lineup.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:26 AM

27. Dirty Work

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 10:34 AM

29. Check the grave site!

And of course the other properties, especially the golf courses.

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Response to Paper Roses (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 11:11 AM

37. That grave was devoid of any sentiment.

Unadorned. Something is not right. And, who gets cremated in an urn and then buried in a coffin? Nah, something isn't right about that. If we dug her up and looked, at least we'd know.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2022, 12:32 PM

41. do you have a link for this? nt

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