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Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:12 AM

When I see a poll showing the majority of Americans believe Republicans are better on the economy.

Better than the Democrats. I shake my head in disbelief and get a little depressed. This shows the majority of the American people are completely ignorant of our history. This is why so many Americans make wrong, foolish, decisions. They don't know history.

The Republican economic history is a history of giant stock market crashes, Great Depression, Great Recession, housing market collapse. It has been a disaster. It has been a disaster for a very simple reason. The idealogical belief of trickle down economics. Tax cuts for the rich and deregulation which leads to corruption.

The Democrats economic history is nothing like that. Yes there have been recessions when Democrats held power, but nothing on the scale of what happened when Republicans held power.

When you get right down to it. The economic history of our country for the past hundred years has been the Democrats saving, fixing, the economic catastrophes caused by the Republicans.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:38 AM

1. There should be Dem ads with simple graphs explaining that

throughout every election cycle, but, they never manage to do it.

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Response to blm (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:59 AM

4. Graphs are too complicated for the average American voter.

Going to have to be simple, short sound bites.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:02 AM

5. That's why I specified simple graphs.

Simple like Ross Perot simple, and accompanied by simple, short sound bites.

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Response to blm (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:09 AM

6. Maybe a simple pie chart. Or bar graphs with only two bars.

Other graphs are too complicated.

And with the pie chart and simple bar graph we would have to field test it so see if the average voter
can understand it.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:28 AM

7. IDK, this looks pretty straightforward to me.

U.S. economic performance under Democratic and Republican presidents
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_under_Democratic_and_Republican_presidents



GDP growth

GDP is a measure of both the economic production and income. The Economist reported in August 2014 that real (inflation-adjusted) GDP growth averaged about 1.8 percentage points faster under Democrats, from Truman through Obama's first term, which ended in January 2013.[2] Blinder and Watson estimated the average Democratic real GDP growth rate at 4.3%, vs. 2.5% for Republicans, from President Truman's elected term through President Obama's first term, which ended January 2013.[1] CNN reported in September 2020 that GDP grew 4.1% on average under Democrats, versus 2.5% under Republicans, from 1945 through the second quarter of 2020, a difference of 1.6 percentage points.[3]


IMO, we don't even try to counter the decades of right wing bullshit. It's like we don't believe in marketing. Some DUers have told me that it's too late for marketing, that people have picked their team & messaging is only for the choir, now.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:29 PM

10. Way too complicated for the MAGA voter.

We don't even need to field test it.

PS One of my specialty areas in my doctoral program was the development of IQ, comprehension, cognitive tests.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:41 AM

2. It's mostly gas prices

and the confusion of thinking Biden closed down drilling for oil. Sounds silly but talk to them because that's what they think

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 09:57 AM

3. Propaganda has been a very effective GOP tool to fool people.

To make people vote for leaders who lie, cheat, steal from Americans.

Exactly. The GOP robs the US piggy bank and the Dems have to fill it up every time they get into office.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 10:32 AM

8. No one likes grifting a community pot more than a repub, even as they hate contributing to one.

They are such hypocrites. And absolutely shameless.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:40 PM

11. The GOP is a crime syndicate, psychopaths, and career criminals.

Of course they lie, cheat, steal.

They enjoy it and get votes and make a lot of money doing it.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:16 PM

9. The Dems should do a short commercial

reminiscent of the old "this is your brain on drugs" ad.

"This is your economy on republican leadership. Any questions?"

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Thu Oct 6, 2022, 12:54 PM

12. The Dems need better PR on this issue

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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Sat Oct 22, 2022, 08:09 AM

13. Fifty Years of Tax Cuts for the Rich Didn't Trickle Down, Study Says

There is no tax cut fairy and tax cuts for the rich do not work in the real world



Tax cuts for rich people breed inequality without providing much of a boon to anyone else, according to a study of the advanced world that could add to the case for the wealthy to bear more of the cost of the coronavirus pandemic.

The paper, by David Hope of the London School of Economics and Julian Limberg of King’s College London, found that such measures over the last 50 years only really benefited the individuals who were directly affected, and did little to promote jobs or growth.

“Policy makers shouldn’t worry that raising taxes on the rich to fund the financial costs of the pandemic will harm their economies,” Hope said in an interview....

The authors applied an analysis amalgamating a range of levies on income, capital and assets in 18 OECD countries, including the U.S. and U.K., over the past half century.

Their findings published Wednesday counter arguments, often made in the U.S., that policies which appear to disproportionately aid richer individuals eventually feed through to the rest of the economy. The timespan of the paper ends in 2015, but Hope says such an analysis would also apply to President Donald Trump’s tax cut enacted in 2017.

“Our research suggests such policies don’t deliver the sort of trickle-down effects that proponents have claimed,” Hope said.

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