Very Disturbing- NYC Mayor Adams now says private biz no longer has to require covid vaccination

[Meowmee]

I found this out from an email from the Art Student's League stating due to this they will no longer require students and I suppose staff as well, to be vaccinated for covid. This is very disturbing. I am not surprised but really what a way to say we don't gad anymore. It is more evidence of the insanity of the US. They said if your professor requires you wear a mask and that is an issue to please consider taking another class! What a way to say we don't care about our faculty or anyone else including ourselves except for the bottom line.

I am also disturbed that in my college people are being allowed to attend classes now who have not met the other vaccination requirements. That never happened in the past. I am not talking about covid here, that vaccination as far as I know is still mandatory, to be able to attend at all, but how long will that last for now with the way things are going.. I am talking about measles, mumps, meningitis etc. In the past I was told each semester to not let any students on this list attend class. None were ever still in attendance. Now they are being allowed to attend while the college is negotiating getting them to comply. Supposedly they will be booted out if they don't. But they are currently attending and possibly endangering everyone.

[Dorian Gray]

1. I feel like there are two different issues at hand here

1) The Covid vaccine. I know there is talk about having it added to the childhood schedule, and I'm okay with that. Go for it. The more people who are vaccinated the better, and with a proven track record that it is safe, hopefully stubborn minds will change about it all.

Having said that, it's not mandatory, and I don't know one business in NYC that requires any other vaccine to partake. We've had almost two years to take the vaccine. I have five shots in me. I'm not worried about my health. I am mildly more worried about my aging parents and in-laws health, and will do what I can to protect them.

But I no longer think it's fair to make businesses enforce vaccine rules. It's cumbersome, makes underpaid people enforce vaccines and puts those very same underpaid people into the line of attack if someone feel aggrieved. That's not fair to them at all. Store clerks, restaurant hosts and ticket checkers aren't paid nearly enough to do this kind of work.

2) Vaccine schedules: Universities and schools should maintain the same rules they've always had, and for the safety of their population, uphold vaccine requirements (or written doctors' notes for excuses) in order to register students for classes. If they are changing their protocols bc it's beneficial to them monetarily, then society has a bigger problem. Anti-vaccine nonsense has a huge foothold, and the medical community needs to find a way to push back.

[Roy Rolling]

2. If vaccines were the law

The first vaccine should be against stupid. Unfortunately, there is no vaccine against stupid or inconsiderate and rightly so.

But deputizing private business to administer government-approved medication is a step too far, though I am fully vaccinated myself.

[Skittles]

3. it's why I keep masking

too many stupid, selfish people surround me

[Meowmee]

4. No one was deputizing them to administer the vaccine as far as I know

But before that it was required to be covid vaccinated obviously as they said in the email they have now changed their policy because of what Adams did, and are no longer requiring it to attend classes. I am not sure if they are a private entity or not but I guess so since that’s what they said in the email- that was the reason why their policy has changed.

Schools require core vaccinations for students to attend them and that has been the policy at my university for years. And now due to Covid they are suddenly allowing students who have not met the other vaccination requirements to attend classes, that was never done before Covid, so they’re changing all of the rules now due to fear of the fascist insanity of the society.

It was the policy when I attended school and now they are changing the rules because of Covid- it’s so obvious that many facilities are run by cowards and politicians are bending the rules to fit their views or due to fear or cowardice. All they care about is the bottom line. And that was all they cared about in the beginning of the pandemic too because they didn’t shut down early enough - if they had shut down earlier and told people to wear masks before that I would never have gotten Covid in the beginning of the pandemic which has caused me long-term damage.

Agree about the stupid but it is also pure insanity here now. Insanity rules.

But I disagree about not having vaccine mandates everywhere. If you want to participate in public society you have to be vaccinated and not endanger others. otherwise you should stay home or wear a mask everywhere you go…some people obviously cannot be vaccinated for a true medical reason and those will be the only exceptions, in that case they would probably want to protect themselves by wearing a mask anyway I would guess.

The ASL is a school but it may be privately run, but they still chose to require vaccines up until now. The public schools have had vaccine mandates for years now. The problem is some of them, such as community colleges, can get away with for instance requiring students to be vaccinated in order to attend classes but not the employees because they are community institutions which are not held to the same standard which is really crazy. They are getting a lot federal funding so they should be held to the same standard as all of the other public schools and universities are.

The ASL oddly is allowing instructors to require students to wear a mask so they know they could be held liable if an instructor becomes ill due to their new policy.

[Duppers]

5. Oh hell! 🥺

My son is sick yet again. He's in Manhattan

[Meowmee]

6. Sorry he is sick

Does he have covid? I hope not. I hope he gets better soon. Yes the only thing to do is to stay vaccinated and to keep masking- that’s what I am doing. I am still masking when I’m teaching in person and I’m also teaching online again now. I just hope it will be enough to protect me. I felt like I was getting a fever in my last class but I think it had to do with bg issues i have been having or something else. I had my last booster for Covid the new bivalent the week I started teaching in person I think or the week before and I have not had the flu shot yet, I have to get that still. I was wondering if I need to get booster vaccinated for any of those other vaccines that I had as a child now, I have to ask my doctor.

I will finally be able to have an opportunity maybe next semester to take a course that I wanted to take at the art student league which is only in person, and now I am not sure if I should or not I guess if I wear a mask I’ll be OK. Which I would do anyway.

[Duppers]

7. He has already had 2 diagnosed bouts of covid.

A 3rd seems unlikely. But yay! He's feeling better today, except being tired. TY so much for asking.

Jeepers, I'm sorry that you must take risks of teaching in person, but you're taking all the precautions you can. I wish you much luck!
Keep us posted, Meowmee, please.

To quote a line from Hill Street Blues: "Be careful out there."

Unrelated: my son lives with his 2 dear old cats, which he inherited from a college g.f./roommate.

[Meowmee]

8. I am glad he survived it twice

And is ok😀

My father did not, he was infected by a hospital er in Dec ‘21 and I had it in the very beginning from my students and have lt damage, so I am very cautious.

Thanks🤗 That is great, he is a good person, as you can tell from my name here I love cats😻

Lol, I remember hsb too 😹