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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOh Dear God 10/22/22 Bund Rally Manheim, Pennsylvania Please tell me this is a put on.
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Thanx to DUer Dirty Socialist for posting the story that had this in it.
PCIntern
(25,489 posts)I worked in those areas of Pennsylvania, this is no surprise
Botany
(70,447 posts)Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the west and lots of Alabama every where else.
Botany
(70,447 posts)... Gov. Ray Shafer one of the finest men you would ever meet. He loved playing ball with
the kids, just being part of the neighborhood (very middle class neighborhood and a different
time), he supported education, unions, civil rights, the environment, infrastructure, and he
was a republican too. Hopefully the Ds can win the Governor spot and the senate too in PA
this fall.
Those people are howling mad bat shit crazy.
Putin installed Trump to rip America apart from the inside and in that he was successful.
happybird
(4,588 posts)SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)I went to College at Alfred U. and it was quite an adventure when we'd wander into Pennsylvania once in a great while. 😳
electric_blue68
(14,818 posts)Warpy
(111,162 posts)Dixie was bad enough, parts of PA are a total nightmare.
This blowhard did confirm my atheism once again, no lightning in sight. Any god worthy of the name would have burnt him to a crisp on the spot.
FelineOverlord
(3,571 posts)Because hes losing so many fans
They are what he has left
I read that when the U.S. trucker convoy finally arrived in DC, all that remained were all Q
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
Starting at around 1:40.
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NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... his followers should feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, care for the sick, and welcome the stranger.
Remind me again how Trump and his minions are following those teachings ...
bluestarone
(16,867 posts)The ONLY way i can understand what's happening is SATAN time here. WAY to hard for me to understand it. I compare it to the first movie in the Left Behind series. That's all i can say.
spudspud
(511 posts)yellowdogintexas
(22,231 posts)Revelation. Assuming all that is really supposed to happen of course.
I just hope we are not in for 1000 years of this garbage
3catwoman3
(23,949 posts)...of all these things.
MyOwnPeace
(16,919 posts)was about 'the good Samaritan' - a man was beaten & robbed and left in a ditch by a road. Two others (a priest and a merchant) crossed to the other side of the road to 'avoid' involvement. Finally, a Samaritan stopped to help, put him up in an inn, and we're told this is how we should act. (Luke 10: 25-27).
So I asked (to myself........) - if someone were to put immigrants on a plane and send them off to a different place WITHOUT a plan in place to care for them, would that make them 'good Samaritans?'
Vinca
(50,237 posts)This baloney is pathetic, of course, but it would be a laugh from beginning to end.
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erronis
(15,183 posts)just for the grins. Ululating and squirming in the aisles. Dumping their chump change in the grifting buckets.
Now I don't think I want to abuse myself any more for that type of sport.
Thunderbeast
(3,400 posts)These sheeple are convinced that Jesus and Trump will deliver them buck-and-a-quarter diesel for their new F-150, a new 84 inch teevee for the double-wide, and a Super Bowl win for the Steelers while they wait to be raptured.
MyOwnPeace
(16,919 posts)If they're from the Manheim area you KNOW that they are praying for the Eagles or Redskins (yeah, they're not gonna' let any 'BC' bullshit mess with the GAWD-given name of their team!).
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)onecaliberal
(32,780 posts)wnylib
(21,341 posts)world wide wally
(21,739 posts)wnylib
(21,341 posts)the post that says they killed Jesus?
As for timelessness, I'd hate to be held accountable for the actions of people from before I was born.
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)DBoon
(22,340 posts)TeamProg
(6,046 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)The region from central New England westward past the Great Lakes were populated early with German populations fleeing the Thirty Years' War. So yes, you could rouse a Bund movement there at any given moment.
wnylib
(21,341 posts)Are you referring to the Jewish Labor Bund movement of eastern Europe? Or the German American Bund of the 1930s? The word "bund" means federation and Yiddish and German have many similar words and phrases.
The implication that a person's ethnic ancestry would determine their political view is offensive. If that were true, shouldn't the Italian Americans who settled in that same Great Lakes region be eager for a Mussolini type uprising?
How do you account for my uncle, whose parents were born in Germany but brought to the US as children by their own parents? In the Great Lakes region, in fact. That uncle served in the US Army during WWII in Europe, was captured and spent 2 years in a German POW camp. Somehow, throughout those two years, despite Germans having control over his life or death, he managed to stifle the genetic tendency to Nazism that you seem to believe exists in people of German descent.
yellowdogintexas
(22,231 posts)the place. They were fascist because they wanted to be, not because they were German. They ran camps for essentially a copy cat version of Hitler Youth. By no means do these groups represent all German-Americans at the time.
There were many bona fide hate groups (resurgence of the KKK, for example) which arose here in the decade prior to the war, and not all of them were of German ancestry. However, the Germans seemed to dominate these groups.
I learned a lot about this from "Gangsters vs Nazis" a very good book on the subject.
Interestingly there isn't mention in the book of Italian-American fealty to the ideals of Mussolini. There must not have been much of that going on.
wnylib
(21,341 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 23, 2022, 08:20 PM - Edit history (2)
But I was responding to a post that implied that, due to large numbers of German immigrants from COLONIAL times into later years, it should be easy to promote Nazi oriented German bunds today in regions where German immigrants from generations ago settled.
A parallel comparison: There were Irish American Catholics who donated to the support of the Irish IRA during The Troubles in Northern Ireland. Does that mean that, today, descendants of Irish Americans could be easily recruited to stirring up a return to the hostilities and violence? President Biden is both Catholic and Irish. I can't imagine him supporting it.
Neither can I imagine descendants of German immigrants today being easier to recruit into Nazism solely based on their ethnic ancestry. Fascism transcends ethnicity. Just look at the occupied nations from WWII that were willing collaborators.
bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)Rural populations, worldwide, remain in the same locale for generations.
https://gizmodo.com/how-american-nazis-used-summer-camps-to-indoctrinate-th-1743267747
https://hsp.org/blogs/fondly-pennsylvania/nazi-party-sympathizers-in-philadelphia-before-the-war-part-2
It's not coincidence where these rallies are held, in my opinion.
wnylib
(21,341 posts)my German-born grandmother, lived with us during my childhood, so I was exposed to a lot of German culture, as well as German language when German speaking friends of hers visited her. Plus, we were members of a Lutheran church that was founded by German immigrants to the US.
Yet, I never felt any affinity to Nazism growing up. Neither did Aunt Emma or any of the rest of my huge extended German American family. I was 11 years old during the televised Eichmann trial for war crimes against Jews. When I came home from school for lunch, my mother and Aunt Emma were watching the trial. They would not let me see it because they considered the topic unsuitable to a child. But I remember Aunt Emma crying over what her homeland had become. She was only 6 years old when her parents brought her and her siblings to the US, but German language and culture at home were very much a part of her upbringing.
When I was in grade school in the 1950s, 2 Italian immigrant families arrived in our city and their kids went to my school. Their parents had lived through Mussolini's Italy. They were not fascists. In fact, they were so anti fascist that that's how they got their visa to immigrate to the US. Their families had been partisans who worked with the US military in Europe during WWII. I guess that "Italian culture" fascism did not sink in to them, although they seemed culturally Italian to me in language, food, and religion.
Culture and politics are not the same thing. Japanese culture has not produced another emperor worshipping generation trying to conquer Asia. German culture has not produced another Hitler trying to conquer the world. In fact, during the Trump years, it was Angela Merkel's Germany that was respected as the leader of the free world during America's absence from that role under Trump.
And the notion that descendants of German immigrants from COLONIAL times would be susceptible to fascism due to the culture of their ancestors from over 200 years ago is ludicrous. My maternal grandmother came to America when she was 3 years old in 1890, decades before the FIRST World War, and therefore, even longer before WWII. They identified with German culture, but had ZERO identification with the German politics of Nazism.
My maternal grandfather's family was from Germany, too. They arrived in the US in 1888, also long before both world wars. They also identified with German culture, but not with the politics of Nazism. In fact, they came to the US because my great-grandfather was part of a liberal political movement in Germany for a parliamentary government and was threatened with arrest by Kaiser Wilhelm II. That parliamentarian movement in Germany that great grandpa supported was not a new, radical idea. Germans had tried to implement that kind of government in 1848. In the 1880s, it was Kaiser Frederick and his British wife, Victoria (daughter of Queen Victoria) who led the parliamentarian movement in Germany. But Kaiser Frederick died in 1888 and his son, Kaiser Wilhelm II was an absolutist monarch due to the strong influence that Bismarck had on him. Wilhelm arrested his father's reform supporters so my great grandfather escaped out of the country with help from some friends.
Facts and history disprove the bigoted idea that descendants of German immigrants are culturally susceptible to fascism. For example, Eisenhower is a German name, but he led the Allied Forces in Europe against fascism.
yellowdogintexas
(22,231 posts)down into New York/New Jersey & Pennsylvania
Chicago, Detroit and LA were other locations
DBoon
(22,340 posts)They were fleeing the repression following the 1848 rebellions in European German lands.
spanone
(135,795 posts)May god smite the shit out of them.
LudwigPastorius
(9,110 posts)Clark and Flynn put a "hit list" up on the big screen for their cultists to act upon.
progressoid
(49,951 posts)SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)They're freaking insane. Anyone who actually believes that crap is down the road, full tilt bozo INSANE! 😳
There should be a domestic terrorist watch on those lunatics. They're not a religion, they're a doomsday cult.
bluestarone
(16,867 posts)When the Romans called for DEATH to the FIRST born of every Hebrew. Ended up the first born of the Romans died! So by the RETHUGS own words here, calling for death to the Democrats.
yellowdogintexas
(22,231 posts)because they marked their homes with lamb's blood and the spirit of death 'Passed Over' them.
Nero ordered the deaths of firstborns at time of Christ, but thanks to the Wise Men they escaped to Egypt.
KS Toronado
(17,155 posts)How dare they tell the truth, repugs want LIES, LIES & more LIES only.
"Hit Lists" like this should get automatic visits from the FBI.
ShazzieB
(16,281 posts)There's a bunch I can't identify, a lot that I already knew the RW hates, and a few surprises! I wonder what John Roberts and Lindsey Graham did to get on their shit list?
VGNonly
(7,482 posts)[link:
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(22,231 posts)The Jewish mob went after these groups (at the behest of a Judge in New York) Very interesting book.
There were bunds like this all over the country in most major cities. The New York/New Jersey area had the most but the largest one was the one Rachel talks about - Los Angeles.
Father Coughlin is also discussed in the book.
multigraincracker
(32,641 posts)pwb
(11,252 posts)Fuck off sinners, your guilt is unforgiving.
Deminpenn
(15,265 posts)He was raised by a fanatically religious catholic mother and activisit (think Alito). She took him to anti-abortion and other activist rallies when he was a boy. That's where all the kooky religious stuff comes from.
bringthePaine
(1,727 posts)debm55
(24,903 posts)It's like they started their own religion.
niyad
(113,074 posts)Mblaze
(257 posts)Like when he paid off Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen went to jail for it? If so, then God is an un-indicted co-conspirator.
BSdetect
(8,995 posts)IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)people are more sensible in blue areas
dwayneb
(766 posts)Here's a Newsweek report on it:
https://www.newsweek.com/prayer-pro-trump-rally-blasts-rino-trash-deep-state-1754088