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Botany

(70,483 posts)
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 12:17 PM Oct 2022

FYI Ukraine in maps: Tracking the war with Russia ... Ukrainian forces and its allies are driving...

... the Russians back into Russia or Crimea. maps are up to date as of 10/26

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682






Good to see that Putin and JD Vance are on the same page.

He said that Zelenskyy should cut a deal with Putin and give him some land. And something to the
effect Biden and Zelenskyy forced Russia to attack Ukraine.


Parma, OH will not be happy w/ J.D..
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Botany

(70,483 posts)
2. I made sure that video of Vance saying Zelenskyy should give up land to Putin got to Ryan's campaign
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 12:26 PM
Oct 2022

n/t

100,000 Ukrainians and people of Ukrainian dissent in OH along with lots of Poles, Slavs,
and so on too.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
3. It will be hard to push past the Dneiper this year.
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 12:29 PM
Oct 2022

"I've seen the future, brother: it is murder." -L. Cohen

Botany

(70,483 posts)
4. The Russian troops on the east side of the River according to reports and in their own words ....
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 12:35 PM
Oct 2022

... have little food, ammo, winter clothing, and many of them are conscripts with no
training too. I doubt they have much will to fight too.

BTW Belarusian, Chechen, Georgians, and lots of international volunteers are now all
fighting with the Ukrainian forces.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
6. I hope you're right. It would be amazing to push to the Crimean isthmus this year.
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 12:45 PM
Oct 2022

Ukraine's progress has been steady, but it's not exactly a blitzkrieg. Deliberate, punishing.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
8. If the Ukrainian forces and their allies got some air support that would help them
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 01:11 PM
Oct 2022

It is easy to write about a war sitting in my house but no doubt much harder on the
ground and in the action. I think once the U.A. forces take the city of Kherson they
will attack the Russians from the north and east from the Donbas once they push the
Russians back into Russia from those Oblasts. Hopefully the bases in Crimea where
they are launching the drones from will now be with in range of the long range guns
and missiles.

The Russian troops in many places are living in muddy holes in the ground with little
outside support and i don't think they will want to fight very hard. The senior Russian
officers are not giving their troops much ammo because the conscripts are using it to
kill their Colonels and Generals.

BTW none of this shit in Ukraine or the C-19 pandemic would have happen if we stopped
Putin in 2016 from installing Trump.

mitch96

(13,885 posts)
7. From what I've read the russians are rotating conscripts to the front and retiring the
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 01:01 PM
Oct 2022

experienced but tired contract troops across the river. I think the Russian army knows they
will loose Kherson and want to minimize the loss of proven army personnel. Maybe have the UKR waste men and material so the russians can regroup? A thought...
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