It is not ok to wear a nazi outfit as your halloween costume

[Meowmee]

Just as it is not ok to wear a kkk outfit etc. that is all…. I want to point out that that is part of normalizing fascism imo. And it is not ok. See, I said something very important, without twitter or any source other than myself. 😀

[SheltieLover]

1. I couldn't agree more!

[Meowmee]

2. +++

Glad to hear it 😀

[SheltieLover]

3. Never had fb, twitter or other soc media.

Never will.

I'm living proof it is not necessary for survival.

[Meowmee]

5. That is great 😀

I am on twitter but never use it, fb I do use for cat groups and friends only in my bubble. An insta so I am guilty of that 😹

[SheltieLover]

13. Not "guilty"

Enjoy!

[Meowmee]

15. Lol

I will, i can never get enough of cats etc.

[SheltieLover]

17. I love pets, too!

[brooklynite]

4. You realize that nobody would know what you were talking about...

...if someone hadn't posted a tweet with a phone of the person in question?

[Meowmee]

6. Some would

Some would because Prince Harry wore a nazi outfit, but not for halloween though. Regardless of twitter my point is still very valid. Thinking it is ok is normalizing fascism. And they would know that what I am saying is right even if someone had not posted that video on twitter.

[vercetti2021]

7. What about a dead one?

That seems fitting since we wiped them clean.

[Meowmee]

9. Lol, maybe

I have to think about that.

[Turbineguy]

8. In bad taste?

Appropriate attire at Mar a Lago.

[LakeArenal]

10. Ask Prince Harry ...

[Meowmee]

12. Yes I included him in my reply above

He was made to apologize for that as I recall.

[Hekate]

19. He was a foolish young man. He apologized & appears to have grown up in the decades since.

[pinkstarburst]

21. One of the many reasons

I feel he's in no position to lecture anyone on anything. He's hardly some example on great behavior.

[Raine]

34. Agree, he was 20yrs old when he did that that's old enough

to know better.

[dembotoz]

11. bill mahrer just did a thing about folks getting upset about halloween costumes

as in ...get over it

I would tend to agree

so my daughter in law texted me that my grand daughter was dressed up like kirby.

i texted back why would she want to dress up like a vacuum cleaner...
apparently its some damn cartoon character....

who knew

[Meowmee]

14. Bill maher is a fool

I would expect him to spew crap like that. I hope you're not comparing dressing as kirby to dressing as a nazi.

[dembotoz]

18. even a broken clock right 2 time a day

as for the kirby thing it was meant to be funny.
i thought it was funny....
but i have a sense of humor

[meadowlander]

20. He's still wrong on this though.

He's a privileged old white man who doesn't get to tell people what they are allowed to be offended by or not.

As an example, at my last job our old boss was semi-retiring (stepping down as boss by staying employed there as a senior advisor). One person on the team took it on herself to be the official party planner and decided on a theme of us all wearing Native American-style headbands with one feather each and at the party we'd each take our feather out and give it to the old boss to make a full chief style headdress.

I told her I thought that was inappropriate culture appropriation as no one involved was vaguely Native American and I didn't want to be seen (and god forbid photographed) at work dressed up in someone else's cultural symbols particularly since part of our job involves consulting with indigenous people and we had an in-house cultural advisory team who could have walked past at any minute. She'd already bought the feathers though and would not be talked out of it.

So I sent her a bunch of videos and websites I'd found on cultural appropriation. One that impacted me in particular (and sorry a quick google is not turning it up at the moment) was from a Native Hawaiian woman who talking about going to school as a child and being beaten and humiliated by her teacher for wearing cultural garments and how it made her feel now to see clueless white people on Instagram getting thousands of likes for wearing the same thing.

Other peoples' cultures are not a costume for privileged white people to don for fun. And I don't think there is anything wrong with pointing out that Halloween costumes can be a racist mess and we should be trying to be better to the extent that we know better.

As for dressing as a Nazi, it depends on the context but would probably generally not be a great idea. There's probably a way to do it that makes fun of Nazis or provides a wider social context (like Trump or Bannon as a Nazi) but then there's still the risk of triggering Holocaust survivors or their descendants so why bother when there are so many other options?

[meadowlander]

33. Here's the video I was thinking of:

[ecstatic]

46. Great points! nt

[Meowmee]

26. I don't find anything remotely funny about dressing in a nazi costume for any reason

But I do have a very good and sometimes wicked sense of humor.

[dembotoz]

35. obviously never saw springtime for hitler

i would post a link to you tube but i would not want to offend you........

[Meowmee]

42. Yes I have seen it

I assume you understand that wearing a costume for a part in a film/ theatre is not the same as a person dressing up as a nazi for halloween.
In that case it was meant as satire. Theatrical reasons can be evaluated individually… it is not always ok in that realm.

It was wrong when Prince Harry did it and it was wrong when this guy did it…it’s not OK.

[dembotoz]

47. lol there are really worse things to get upset about

[Meowmee]

48. Hm. You are pretty interested in this post

Several comments and no rec for standing up against something that is clearly very wrong. Carry on.. this my last reply to you.

[dembotoz]

52. ahhh that makes me sooooo sad.....

[Paladin]

16. Jeez, think what that says about the current status of our country.

Just the fact that such things need to be stipulated---and they do. Stomach-turning.

[Meowmee]

29. Yes and that is partly why I felt the need to post this

Hard to believe I need to though.

[iemanja]

22. Or blackface.

[Meowmee]

28. Yes for sure

[TigressDem]

23. I wouldn't do it, BUT IF THE POINT IS TO BE SCARY....

NOTHING is more scary to a Democracy than Fascism.

NOTHING is more scary to humans who actually care than Racism.


OK an actual bear within 10 feet of me and not in a happy way.

[Meowmee]

27. His point was not to be scary

Not really sure why that would make any of this ok. Why do people dress up as Nazis… I can assure you it is not to warn us about Nazis it’s to let us know that they support Nazis or whatever else they’re dressing up as and it is to intimidate people or to try to.maybe is also a joke to them and they think it’s funny, but the first is the main one as well as to provoke a reaction.

[TigressDem]

31. Yeah, I get it.

But it IS a pagan celebration and has a lot of darkness associated with it for a start.

I don't know if there really is a way to make this Holiday "politically correct" but yeah, could just be an excuse to wear his Nazi suit and throw it in people's faces with the excuse, "It's just Halloween."

Grandkids are going as zombies and I'll be steampunk handing out candy.

[Meowmee]

32. Have fun😀

[TigressDem]

40. I told my Hubby, teasingly, that he couldn't wear a Nazi or KKK costume....

He deadpanned, "No, no, no. I want to be scary, NOT HORRIFYING!"

I love that man.


LOL

[Meowmee]

41. Good for him 😀

[sir pball]

24. I MIGHT give Charlie Day a pass

But he'd have to have the banana and everything. And even then it would be very very iffy.

[no_hypocrisy]

25. Man in Nazi uniform kicked out of Manhattan bar

A man in a Nazi uniform was intimidated into leaving a Soho bar as patrons shamed and threatened him.

The incident was captured on a video posted to Twitter Saturday night, as costumed Halloween revelers imbibed across the boroughs.

In the clip, the smiling young man, donning full regalia including a swastika armband, sidled up to the bar at Fanelli Cafe, leaving other patrons aghast.

The would-be customer shrugged as he appeared to be denied service and exchanged words with a patron who told him to leave in vulgar terms.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/30/man-in-nazi-uniform-kicked-out-of-manhattan-bar/

[Meowmee]

30. I am glad that

The people in the bar got it.

[Johnny2X2X]

36. But woke

This is where the Right is, they'll site wokeness while wearing Nazi arm bands.

[Meowmee]

39. Yeah prolly, this is where we are

[AngryOldDem]

37. I remember when doing something like that was unthinkable.

Now, it’s just part of the “joke”.

[Meowmee]

38. Yes

And this post only got 10 recs here at du

[XanaDUer2]

43. Then there's this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217311145

[Meowmee]

44. It says he had cognitive issues

I am not sure what to say about this really I would have to read the whole article and I don’t have time to do that, and even then who knows. I suppose it could be seen as some sort of excuse, it still doesn’t make it right though obviously.

[leftyladyfrommo]

45. I think he was mentally disabled. nt

[prodigitalson]

49. good thing I chose blackface this year

[malaise]

50. Very few criticized the British Royal who did this as a 20 year old

I thought it was deplorable then and nothing has changed

[Meowmee]

51. Yep

Senior army official were furious and wanted him booted out. I never felt his apology was even from him either.