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Raven

(13,886 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:42 AM Nov 2022

Sons and daughters of seniors should be worried about cuts in Social Security.

If mom and dad can't afford to live without (or with cuts to) SS, guess who will be supporting them. So you guys can add that to the college loans for your kids that you are struggling with. If you are expecting Republicans to help you with these things, I can sell you a bridge that these Republicans also won't repair.

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Sons and daughters of seniors should be worried about cuts in Social Security. (Original Post) Raven Nov 2022 OP
+1 leftstreet Nov 2022 #1
Yup. Baitball Blogger Nov 2022 #2
Amen to that.. I have been saying that for years.. Peacetrain Nov 2022 #3
Absolutely should d_r Nov 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Nov 2022 #5
This is what I've been telling young people! And that when elders' homes are foreclosed on, they SheltieLover Nov 2022 #6
Young people that Traildogbob Nov 2022 #7
Survivor benefits for children... Hestia Nov 2022 #11
Excellent. Traildogbob Nov 2022 #15
We have a very small slightlv Nov 2022 #8
I've often wondered about mask/vax holes and inherited wealth Hestia Nov 2022 #13
That's just about everyone alive wryter2000 Nov 2022 #9
I believe Ron Johnson wants to reinstate a policy for seniors: LakeArenal Nov 2022 #10
It's the Bloated Ticks' plan to force everyone into 'nuclear' families Aviation Pro Nov 2022 #12
Sons and daughters will lose their inheritance. GoodRaisin Nov 2022 #14

leftstreet

(36,103 posts)
1. +1
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:43 AM
Nov 2022

So many struggling people are already helping their senior family members. This just won't end well.

Response to Raven (Original post)

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. This is what I've been telling young people! And that when elders' homes are foreclosed on, they
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:51 PM
Nov 2022

will lose their rightful inheritances through foreclosures!

THIS gets theur attention & I hope those I've talked to vote & tell everyone they know, as I've instructed them to do.

Traildogbob

(8,709 posts)
7. Young people that
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:01 PM
Nov 2022

Are severely injured and can not work draw SS disability. They can be with zero income. Young parents that lose a spouse, to cancer, Covid, accident or shot by a trump lunatic will no longer get SS assistance to raise the children until age 18. That’s a surviving parent that will lose half the income they depended on to raise their children will be facing sever economic issues. So if the economy is a driving force to vote, parents with no income, or losing a spouse, or losing ability to work at all, losing SS will damn sure affect your economy much more the expensive gas or chicken.
Also, if you are “forced” to have a severely disabled child, you will get zero SSDI to help with mountains of cost to raise that child.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
11. Survivor benefits for children...
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:29 PM
Nov 2022

I do so wish I had gone to college after HS, because mom could afford to send us to college on the benefits, as she worked also. At that time, survivor benefits went up to age 23, or until graduation from college.

If we are going to fix all this, we need to reenact that rule, which would mean 1st gen college students wouldn't to go to homeless shelters and/or food banks in order to keep bodies together until graduation.

We all know that a sound breakfast (thank goodness sugared cereals are being taken out of that sound breakfast equation) is extremely important for small children, so too is meals for college students. They could think about their studies instead of using that time to scrounge up a meal...

https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10085.pdf

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/031716/social-security-benefits-children-how-they-work.asp

slightlv

(2,786 posts)
8. We have a very small
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:21 PM
Nov 2022

pot of money we draw from (getting smaller all the time) in addition to SS. Most of that is used to help MY Mom now. If SS cuts go into affect now, it's going to be a multi-generational clusterf**k. Due to Mom now being on Medicaid, she has "extra" in her account each month over what she's allowed to have at the memory care home. This is because we cancelled her Medicare Advantage once she got on Medicaid. The nursing home says we have to spend down that money on her or it goes back to the state. So, we now have to start paying on a burial plan for her... which makes good sense, it's just morbid as hell and I feel in times such as these we're going to get caught in the middle of something that's going to not end well. I'd like to wait until after the election to do this, but of course, I don't have that luxury. Everything has to be done "right now." The deadline is next Friday to get this solidified.

Meanwhile, we next have the election. If it doesn't go for the Democrats, goddess forbid, then we're up the creek without a paddle. We've still got Mom we're responsible for, that pot of extra money ain't going to go far at all... it's only around 20k... so we kill everything that we don't have to have to survive on. We're pretty much there already; our only "luxury" is cable. TV is our entertainment, since we don't go anywhere anymore.

My daughter is living in town now, but she has three sons she's raising. She doesn't need two parents AND a grandparent on top of that!

I don't know what we'll end up doing. Since the polar ice caps are melting, it's not like they can stick out there anymore. Maybe take a handful or 2 of pills to od? Go out that way? What do they expect us to do? I know the one politico in Texas made it very clear. Die and don't be a burden on the young. Okay... maybe they should open up euthanasia centers like in Soylent Green. But I guess that would still allow us to die with a little bit of dignity, so that wouldn't fit their agenda. I just have never hated a group of people so much in my life. I worked all my life... since I was 12 years old... hard... served my time in the Military for this country... and spent most of my adult life in civil service to this country... most of the time my paychecks were always less because I was female. But I just worked harder and did the best I could do because it's who I was and the clients liked dealing with me. I didn't make them feel like idiots when their computers would act up. After a lifetime of service in one form or another to this country, how dare they treat me and every other senior as though we no longer are worth anything. After all, the money they want is OUR EARNED money. It was taken from every paycheck we earned and squirrel away for us for just these days.

In effect, the R's want to steal OUR hard-earned money. There is no other way to look at this. SS is not a welfare program. It is an Insurance Program that we've paid into all our working life. It's basically like paying your auto insurance all year and at years end having an accident, filing a claim, and the insurance company saying sorry, "the senators took all your money. you have no insurance any longer."

Why are people so dumb they can't see this? We can live without cars and car insurance. We can't live with out social security!

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
13. I've often wondered about mask/vax holes and inherited wealth
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:41 PM
Nov 2022

Instead of keeping seniors healthy, it seems like there is a game plan to kill off mom, dad, grandparents, since they can't find a job (who the hell wants to hire a GQPer? That kinda mindset is hard to hide after awhile.

If these people inherited from the family members, then they wouldn't have to worry about SS or their own 401k's or even unemployment (since we all now know how that went during covid lockdowns - COBAL - JFC). "Why be a burden, ma, while you can still pass with dignity, and you won't have to worry about anything. I've always loved your house/condo. I promise to take care of it."

The below link is the median assets of retirees as of 2019. The figures are pre-covid.

https://goodlifehomeloans.com/resources/average-american-net-worth-at-retirement/

wryter2000

(46,032 posts)
9. That's just about everyone alive
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:26 PM
Nov 2022

If you put together all people on SS and all of their adult children, that's pretty much the whole population. Or you might have to go to grandchildren.

They used to call SS the third rail of American politics. What in hell is going on in this country? (Don't answer. I know.)

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
10. I believe Ron Johnson wants to reinstate a policy for seniors:
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:28 PM
Nov 2022

It’s the: Put Them Out On The Ice Flow Policy.

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
14. Sons and daughters will lose their inheritance.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:49 PM
Nov 2022

With Medicare and SS gone, old people will have to mortgage their homes after their 401ks run out. That which was once the main sources of inheritance will be gone.

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