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undergroundpanther

(11,925 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 08:05 PM Jan 2012

Learning from Gandhi's mistakes


Mahatma Gandhi is often praised as the man who defeated British imperialism with non-violent agitation. It is still a delicate and unfashionable thing to discuss his mistakes and failures, a criticism hitherto mostly confined to Communist and Hindutva publications. But at this distance in time, we shouldn't be inhibited by a taboo on criticizing official India's patron saint.

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http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/fascism/gandhimistake.html
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Learning from Gandhi's mistakes (Original Post) undergroundpanther Jan 2012 OP
Even sending letters to hitler ,were for peace orpupilofnature57 Jan 2012 #1
Gandhi stood up for the best ideals of humankind. cheapdate Jan 2012 #2
Going after Martin Luther King next??? n/t greytdemocrat Jan 2012 #3
I have never understood the desire of some to dimminish the accompishments of great men. obliviously Jan 2012 #4
Like Mother Theresa, JFK, MLK, we learn our "heroes and saints" have clay feet. riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #5
"Troubled history"? cheapdate Jan 2012 #6
7) Not wearing a bullet proof vest. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #7
Check out "Pacifism as Pathology." joshcryer Jan 2012 #8
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
1. Even sending letters to hitler ,were for peace
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 08:24 PM
Jan 2012

Dr Koenraad EIst seems like a smart guy, but he didn't graduate Oxford at 17 and Gandhi didn't have an axe to grind with anyone ,just Peace and Equality. http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/ http://www.mkgandhi.org/

obliviously

(1,635 posts)
4. I have never understood the desire of some to dimminish the accompishments of great men.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jan 2012

Why don't they try to achieve more themselves rather than drag someone down to their level.
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
5. Like Mother Theresa, JFK, MLK, we learn our "heroes and saints" have clay feet.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 11:57 PM
Jan 2012

Interesting article but true believers will never acknowledge their particular saint has some troubled history.

Thanks for posting this.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
6. "Troubled history"?
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 01:39 AM
Jan 2012

That's not how I would put it at all. Koenraad calls them "political failures". He characterizes Gandhi's participation in mobilizing soldiers to fight alongside the Allies in WW1, without later "extract(ing) any tangible gains for India" as a "glaring failure of political skill". He criticizes Gandhi for "the mistake of hubris" for believing he could make peace with Ottoman Muslims. From the perspective of perfect hindsight, he criticizes Gandhi's "judgment" for negotiating in good faith with British Viceroy Lord Irwin.

I'm perfectly capable of looking at Gandhi's actions in a factual and unromantic way. Koenraad's tone and attitude are simply petty and shitty, in my opinion.

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