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CaptainTruth

(6,582 posts)
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:12 PM Nov 2022

Encouraging Senate comment from Dave Wasserman

From Cook Political Report, on Twitter this morning:

"After last night's NV mail ballot trend, excellent chance now that Dems will have 50 Senate seats/control in hand heading into the GA runoff."


Having 50 seats BEFORE the runoff means control of the Senate is NOT riding on that one runoff election, which should make it easier for us to win. If Senate control hinges on that runoff you know Rethugs will throw everything they have at it, & they fight dirty.

I hope Dave is right!

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Encouraging Senate comment from Dave Wasserman (Original Post) CaptainTruth Nov 2022 OP
Ralston said similar. Claustrum Nov 2022 #1
Ralston seemed pretty confident that as long as there were enough votes left in Clark ColinC Nov 2022 #2
I think they'll still fight pretty hard for it ... reason? Sinema and Manchin ... Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #3
They used to call races on less than this Johnny2X2X Nov 2022 #4
About how many are in the mail still? Polybius Nov 2022 #6
However inthewind21 Nov 2022 #15
now that would be nice republianmushroom Nov 2022 #5
I mostly agree Cosmocat Nov 2022 #7
Wasserman and Cook in General Are Very "Conservative" With Their Projections Indykatie Nov 2022 #8
Wasserman was badly off this cycle AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #9
Nate Silver always does a review after Sympthsical Nov 2022 #10
His final ratings were decent. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #11
Nate Silver seems to be more of a national election guy AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #14
That would be terrific, of course. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #12
But a 1 seat cushion would actually be even better! We must fight for Warnock!! OrlandoDem2 Nov 2022 #13
Damn right!!! CaptainTruth Nov 2022 #16

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
1. Ralston said similar.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:15 PM
Nov 2022

Though, they are being a bit cautious because they don't know how the makeup of the remaining votes are until they can see the real numbers.

ColinC

(8,285 posts)
2. Ralston seemed pretty confident that as long as there were enough votes left in Clark
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:16 PM
Nov 2022

CCM will win. And there are definitely enough votes left!


He seems set to notch another win in his prediction ability!

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. I think they'll still fight pretty hard for it ... reason? Sinema and Manchin ...
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:23 PM
Nov 2022

The 51st would still be a pretty important seat.

Maybe not AS hard, but then again ... our side might not either.

Just sayin'

Johnny2X2X

(19,011 posts)
4. They used to call races on less than this
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:29 PM
Nov 2022

We know the outstanding votes are mail in votes that will be about 2-1 for blue.

Before Bush-Gore, the media used to call races based on data like this. It would be the same thing if the Dem was up 15,000 votes and the remaining 100,000 votes to count were same day in person votes from a red county that was breaking 65-35 for the Republican candidate.

They are so cautious, but this race is likely a done deal as a win for Cortez Masto.

And people here need to take a breath, we'll get to 50 Senate seats by the weekend, that is a 90% thing.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
15. However
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:50 PM
Nov 2022

Many were dropped in the mail by 11/08. We'll have an accurate answer to that Saturday 11/12.

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
7. I mostly agree
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:41 PM
Nov 2022

They will still pour MANY millions into it and fight hard for it, but just human nature that they will be a bit disincentivized.

Ds, super motivating to not have the gentleman from WV as a king maker.

Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
8. Wasserman and Cook in General Are Very "Conservative" With Their Projections
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:56 PM
Nov 2022

Given Wasserman's very positive (for him) statement CCM will hold on just like Jon Ralston said.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,001 posts)
9. Wasserman was badly off this cycle
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:22 PM
Nov 2022

His bearish outlook was the main reason I was worried going into Tuesday. And then he was tweeting out about low turnout in FLorida and really seemed convinced of a bloodbath at 11 am on Tuesday.
I haven't really seen any "Whoops! We fucked up" from any of the polling gurus yet either. They just seem to be moving on like none of the stuff they said in the runup exists.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
10. Nate Silver always does a review after
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:30 PM
Nov 2022

What went right, what went wrong, etc.

There's just a lot of outstanding elections still, so they'll probably wait until the dust has settled before getting into it.

I don't think the polls were that bad. I look at the same data as everyone else, and my prediction last week was bang on.

Media commenters and pundits are another story entirely. Everyone's got a narrative. But I thought the data was more or less fine. Some good, some bad as with every cycle. Some surprises (Florida being way more Republican).

But that's every election.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
11. His final ratings were decent.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:30 PM
Nov 2022

Of the 399 seats he categorized as Solid/Likely/Lean D or R, 396 look to be correct, and the remaining three are up in the air.

Of the 36 he said were tossups, Dems have won 18, Reps have won 7, and the remaining 11 are too close to call. So maybe a few more of those tossups should have been Lean D, but overall, he was pretty good.

I agree that his tweets on E-Day were premature. He was right in that the Reps did roll in FL and VA-2, but those turned out to be isolated cases.

He actually missed more badly in 2020, when Reps won a number of Lean Ds.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,001 posts)
14. Nate Silver seems to be more of a national election guy
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:45 PM
Nov 2022

While Wasserman is more granular - he works best on house races.
He did quickly make adjustments on Election night at NBC, and he was the first person I saw saying the Dems could hold the house.. But Cook Political was definitely in the "red deluge" column.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
12. That would be terrific, of course.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:32 PM
Nov 2022

I'll still donate to help Warnock, of course. Someone as messed up as Walker should not be in the Senate. (Not that he'd be worse than some others who are already there, but still.) And we need all the cushion we can get in preparation for the next cycle.

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