Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:24 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

I'm sincerely asking DU'ers to NOT post that specific candidates

have won or lost based on Twitter (unless the info. is being tweeted from reputable sources)!

It's frustrating to me and then gets my hopes up only to see it's not an "Official" projection. My sense is that it's frustrating to others' as well.....

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I'm sincerely asking DU'ers to NOT post that specific candidates (Original post)	Upthevibe	Nov 12	OP
I totally agree it's irresponsible!	DUgosh	Nov 12	#1
DUgosh...... Thank you. n/t	Upthevibe	Nov 12	#16
for some, being first is more important than being right	Orangepeel	Nov 12	#2
Orangepeel....	Upthevibe	Nov 12	#12
I've noticed. nt	Cha	Nov 13	#27
and who decides what is a reputable source? seems like that's a matter of opinion nt	msongs	Nov 12	#3
Wasserman, Ralston, Samuelsen, to name a few.	W_HAMILTON	Nov 12	#4
Or MSNBC, CNN, NYT, etc. nt	spooky3	Nov 12	#5
spooky3...........Thank you! That's exactly what I mean.....n/t	Upthevibe	Nov 12	#8
YW! Kornacki on MSNBC says they are calling WA3 for Dems!	spooky3	Nov 12	#11
spooky3...............YES!	Upthevibe	Nov 12	#14
W_HAMILTON..............	Upthevibe	Nov 12	#6
Yes, I do know something you don't.	W_HAMILTON	Nov 12	#9
W_HAMILTON............	Upthevibe	Nov 12	#15
Wasserman did that for Kelly (AZ) just yesterday.	W_HAMILTON	Nov 12	#17
W_HAMILTON.........	Upthevibe	Nov 13	#20
Garrett Archer is another	Polybius	Nov 13	#22
How about a source with a good track record?	Kaleva	Nov 12	#7
msongs........	Upthevibe	Nov 12	#10
Reputable sources are a matter of opinion?	kcr	Nov 13	#28
I say CCM is a mortal lock. I concede however that I am pretty disreputable.	Tomconroy	Nov 12	#13
Tomconroy ...............LOL!	Upthevibe	Nov 13	#18
Still disreputable but I nailed that one. And Hobbs in AZ is in too	Tomconroy	Nov 13	#26
Am I correct that blue dot does not equal reputable source?	Kennah	Nov 13	#19
We should avoid posting anything from Twitter.	LiberalFighter	Nov 13	#21
✔️ Ty n/t	msfiddlestix	Nov 13	#24
This 10,000 %	msfiddlestix	Nov 13	#23
Recommended.	Treefrog	Nov 13	#25
I know it happened Tures night with	Cha	Nov 13	#29
Twitter has gone from sewer to toilet drain in a greasy diner	Stinky The Clown	Nov 13	#30
I don't believe anything at face value if its first posted on Twitter.	SYFROYH	Nov 13	#31
I don't either.	BlackSkimmer	Nov 13	#32
Agreed. DU clickbait sux just as much as any other clickbait. nt	Maru Kitteh	Nov 13	#33

Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:27 PM

DUgosh (2,985 posts)

1. I totally agree it's irresponsible!

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Response to DUgosh (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 08:28 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

16. DUgosh...... Thank you. n/t

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:28 PM

Orangepeel (13,879 posts)

2. for some, being first is more important than being right

not a good trait, in my opinion

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:46 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

12. Orangepeel....

I completely agree. The most important thing is the truth and accuracy! I mean

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:46 PM

Cha (282,401 posts)

27. I've noticed. nt

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:29 PM

msongs (65,210 posts)

3. and who decides what is a reputable source? seems like that's a matter of opinion nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:31 PM

W_HAMILTON (6,480 posts)

4. Wasserman, Ralston, Samuelsen, to name a few.

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:35 PM

spooky3 (31,281 posts)

5. Or MSNBC, CNN, NYT, etc. nt

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:38 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

8. spooky3...........Thank you! That's exactly what I mean.....n/t

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:44 PM

spooky3 (31,281 posts)

11. YW! Kornacki on MSNBC says they are calling WA3 for Dems!

“Significant upset.” This was Herrera-Butler’s (R) seat until she voted against Trump on impeachment and was driven out. The Dem defeated a MAGA.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:53 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

14. spooky3...............YES!

Reported on MSNBC: Marie Gluesenkamp Perez has just been the projected winner over Republican Joe Kent! (Washington 3rd district).

.....An upset.....

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:36 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

6. W_HAMILTON..............

The News stations, The A.P., NPR (I'm sure there are others' that I'm not thinking of).

But NOT Twitter posters who, while they may be incredibly knowledgeable, don't have access to the actual counts (at least that's my understanding unless you know something I don't).

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:41 PM

W_HAMILTON (6,480 posts)

9. Yes, I do know something you don't.

Wasserman actually helps crunch the numbers at the NBC News Decision Desk on Election Day and Ralston is the foremost expert on elections in Nevada (hence why you see him on all the news networks, most often MSNBC) and, yes, both do have access to the data and both do their own analyses about when to call the race.

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 08:24 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

15. W_HAMILTON............

I know about Wasserman and how highly regarded he is. I didn't know that the three people you mentioned are actually tabulating the numbers.

Having said that, it would be surprising to me that they're declaring candidates victorious before the news shows have.

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 08:31 PM

W_HAMILTON (6,480 posts)

17. Wasserman did that for Kelly (AZ) just yesterday.

The news shows called that race later on in the day.

The big news networks and even the print media (e.g., NYT, AP, etc.) are usually the last to call them since they have to be especially careful because their reputations are on the line.

Having said that, Wasserman has a history of being just as correct as those other reputable sources, and that's why if he calls a race, I have full faith that it is the correct call.

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 01:02 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

20. W_HAMILTON.........

I think what makes me shaky is the 2000 sElection. And, almost to your point, the news desks got it wrong (Oh how we remember) that night. Having said that, IMHO that has made them be even MORE careful now.

But I get what you're saying. I'm just not going to have a full sigh of relief until the networks call the race. John Ralston is a legend in my sister's eyes (who's more knowledgeable than I regarding all things politics). She felt quite safe about Nevada but still wasn't completely relaxed. However, she did talk me off the ledge more than once over this past week.

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 01:11 PM

Polybius (11,926 posts)

22. Garrett Archer is another

He's Arizona's Wasserman.

https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:36 PM

Kaleva (33,400 posts)

7. How about a source with a good track record?

I see the same thing when lurking at Free Republic. People there quoting excerpts from and linking to fringe sites. Doesn't matter if what's reported is accurate or true as long as what's stated is something Freepers want to believe is true.

We accept as normal Magahats getting their news from La-La Land but we should strive to refrain from doing that ourselves.

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:43 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

10. msongs........

I DON'T think a reputable source is a matter of opinion at all!

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:47 PM

kcr (15,243 posts)

28. Reputable sources are a matter of opinion?

Hmm...

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sat Nov 12, 2022, 07:50 PM

Tomconroy (6,430 posts)

13. I say CCM is a mortal lock. I concede however that I am pretty disreputable.

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Response to Tomconroy (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 12:50 PM

Upthevibe (6,241 posts)

18. Tomconroy ...............LOL!

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:42 PM

Tomconroy (6,430 posts)

26. Still disreputable but I nailed that one. And Hobbs in AZ is in too

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 12:52 PM

Kennah (9,937 posts)

19. Am I correct that blue dot does not equal reputable source?

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 01:04 PM

LiberalFighter (45,252 posts)

21. We should avoid posting anything from Twitter.

If there is something on Twitter go directly to the source and post from it.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:23 PM

msfiddlestix (6,157 posts)

24. ✔️ Ty n/t

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:22 PM

msfiddlestix (6,157 posts)

23. This 10,000 %

It's been a point of frutration to me as well. It's one thing to hope, but when announcemnts of victory before it is official is harmful.

I wish those posts would be removed by mirt if needs must.

I fell for a couple of earlier posts of victory when votes are still in the process of being counted in tight races, I had to take the time to trash those threads after the fact. it feels disrespectful to du readers, imo.

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:33 PM

Treefrog (4,170 posts)

25. Recommended.

But many of the Twitter lovers here do not care.

I saw a fake post stand for several hours the other day, despite many pointing out it wasn't true.

The OP apparently found it amusing.

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:52 PM

Cha (282,401 posts)

29. I know it happened Tures night with

posting that Adman Frisch won and many of us were celedbrating and that turned out not to be true.

He's behind now but still not out.. BUT the reports here were that he WON & we were actually celebrating So that made me wary of anything that wasn't Officially Called.

I was so disappointed.

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Response to Upthevibe (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 05:04 PM

Stinky The Clown (65,792 posts)