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Bobstandard

(1,292 posts)
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:37 PM Nov 2022

My guess: Trump REFUSES to run!

I think TFG will announce that not only is he not running, he refuses to run. After all, why would he run since the whole system is broken, corrupt, fixed, blah, blah, blah? He won't run, and he'll blame it on us. Loudly. Hysterically. Think of the bombast, the ego pumping bullshit he'll unleash in that announcement!

It's the perfect out for him. He won't have to risk being humiliated again. Melania won't leave him. He'll continue to be able to fund raise. And he'll have time to work on his defense.

He'll also have time to prep for, and the freedom of movement, to flee the country if he's ever indicted. He'll frame that move as a surprise but long-secretly-planned world tour to raise awareness for how he's been wronged, blah, blah, blah. And just by coincidence if he's ever indicted he'll quickly be ensconced in a luxury suite in a grand hotel in a country that, again, just by coincidence, doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US.

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My guess: Trump REFUSES to run! (Original Post) Bobstandard Nov 2022 OP
if he announces that cuts off his money supply from grifting nt msongs Nov 2022 #1
You know many MAGATS would continue to send him money Bobstandard Nov 2022 #5
But the RNC won't pay his legal bills anymore. leftieNanner Nov 2022 #11
The RNC won't KEEP paying his legal bills. Just until DeSantis is safely nominated, 70sEraVet Nov 2022 #23
His assets can be frozen here and abroad if a fugitive of the law. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2022 #2
I bet he's got money stashed all over. Bobstandard Nov 2022 #8
True. Any country friendly with the US would be inclined to assist ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2022 #14
He'll run iemanja Nov 2022 #3
HE should be so lucky MuseRider Nov 2022 #12
I agree completely. nt iemanja Nov 2022 #28
He have to spend the grift Historic NY Nov 2022 #4
I can see that. The "disgraceful" recent election proved to him that the system is so corrupt Peregrine Took Nov 2022 #6
Aw he's got to. lpbk2713 Nov 2022 #7
Perhaps he will tell us why the American people don't deserve to have him back. Chainfire Nov 2022 #9
Wishful thinking true. But imagine the dialog! Bobstandard Nov 2022 #16
Can you imagine how lost Trump would be if nobody paid any attention to him any more? Chainfire Nov 2022 #19
No he won't run vapor2 Nov 2022 #10
He'll run.. JackSabbath Nov 2022 #13
And that's his biggest concern - avoiding conviction. Native Nov 2022 #26
Anything is possible. H2O Man Nov 2022 #15
he'll run because "only he can fix it" agingdem Nov 2022 #17
I see it from his ego's perspective.... getagrip_already Nov 2022 #18
I hear that Belarus is lovely this time of year. (unverified) usonian Nov 2022 #20
My guess is that he's leaving the Republican party and forming his own party. Yavin4 Nov 2022 #21
That's my thinking as well Metaphorical Nov 2022 #30
Back in 2016, Republicans were scared that Trump would leave the party and run as an independent. Yavin4 Nov 2022 #33
Of course he could... IjustDontlikeRepugs Nov 2022 #32
he has to be the center of attention, he'll keep us hanging as long as he can Hamlette Nov 2022 #22
Then how can he continue with his rallies and "fund-raising" if he's not running? no_hypocrisy Nov 2022 #24
We're not worthy! Buns_of_Fire Nov 2022 #25
I definately can see him doing that. BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #27
I doubt that. He never wants to be seen as weak tulipsandroses Nov 2022 #29
I think not. He incorrectly believes being a candidate will keep him kairos12 Nov 2022 #31

Bobstandard

(1,292 posts)
5. You know many MAGATS would continue to send him money
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:50 PM
Nov 2022

You may be right that the flow will diminish, but it wont stop. MAGATS who have invested in him will continue to do it. They're a cult. He's the cult leader. And if he says he needs their money, they'll believe him.

70sEraVet

(3,474 posts)
23. The RNC won't KEEP paying his legal bills. Just until DeSantis is safely nominated,
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:07 PM
Nov 2022

or The Orange Menace is in prison. The RNC is just as anxious as the rest of us to flush that orange turd!

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,722 posts)
2. His assets can be frozen here and abroad if a fugitive of the law.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:43 PM
Nov 2022

I think there are exceptions when someone flees to escape prosecution for a multitude of crimes. TDFG has assets here and abroad.

Bobstandard

(1,292 posts)
8. I bet he's got money stashed all over.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:52 PM
Nov 2022

Saudi Arabia comes to mind first. Hell, they gave the son in law 2 billion to play with. He'd probably show up with some of those classified documents he's made copies of and sell those for big bucks. You gotta admit, it's plausible.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,722 posts)
14. True. Any country friendly with the US would be inclined to assist
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:58 PM
Nov 2022

In freezing of assets.

We will have to see what transpires.

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
3. He'll run
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:44 PM
Nov 2022

and he'll probably announce this week.
We should be so lucky to be rid of him.
I think the claims about Trump's demise are exaggerated. The GOP can't get away from him.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
12. HE should be so lucky
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:54 PM
Nov 2022

to be rid of himself. Can you even imagine what it must feel like to be like him? He acts like he thinks he is perfect but his actions are to defend himself then he makes it seem like he had to because we don't appreciate him. I hope he is as miserable as I think he is and I don't even feel sorry for feeling that way. I don't know if there is anyone on this planet as sick and fucked up as he is and he has let himself be this way even now, when things are going bad for him. What a sick fuck he is. It gives me the creeps and he nauseates me.

I agree, he will run. He can't NOT run. The GOP had better get some guts or they will pay for this in a very big way. They are wounded, time to cut out the poison.

EDIT: He is evil and there is a lot of that out there but he is a particular kind of crazy evil and I don't think anyone really knows how to deal with him other than just dropping him and trying to make everyone just let him go.

Peregrine Took

(7,412 posts)
6. I can see that. The "disgraceful" recent election proved to him that the system is so corrupt
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:50 PM
Nov 2022

It would be impossible to wage a "free and fair" campaign.

Chainfire

(17,467 posts)
9. Perhaps he will tell us why the American people don't deserve to have him back.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:52 PM
Nov 2022

If that is to be our punishment, I will take double.

It is all wishful thinking, I believe he has been running since he left office, no need to turn back now.

While we are talking about "What if?" What if Donald did opt out of running. He could kiss and make up with DeSantis and then Jr. could run as Desantis' number 2. The Redneck army could have what they want and the Party could have what they want. A real lose-lose proposition for the rest of us. As I think about it, forget Jr., how about Ivanka for VP?

Bobstandard

(1,292 posts)
16. Wishful thinking true. But imagine the dialog!
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:59 PM
Nov 2022

"Many, many people, so many people want me to run.
And if I did run I'd win bigly, Bigly. It wouldn't even be close. If the election wasn't fixed it would be a landslide like nobody has ever seen. Believe me."

And imagine the burn he'd put on Desantis! On everybody who hasn't been sufficiently loyal. It makes me laugh thinking about it.

Chainfire

(17,467 posts)
19. Can you imagine how lost Trump would be if nobody paid any attention to him any more?
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:03 PM
Nov 2022

Having judges disassemble his financial empire and no one there to fight for him. Only in a perfect world.

vapor2

(1,240 posts)
10. No he won't run
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:53 PM
Nov 2022

because the RNC says they won't pay his legal fees if he does PLUS he is raking in money from his base.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
15. Anything is possible.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:58 PM
Nov 2022

Back in the summer of 1968, as those of my generation know, LBJ was hoping the party would draft him -- despite his earlier announcement he would not run. The difference, in my opinion, is that Trump would hope that the cult carries him to victory, starting the following morning. He makes LBJ at his most psychotic seem sane in comparison.

agingdem

(7,805 posts)
17. he'll run because "only he can fix it"
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:00 PM
Nov 2022

and he'll say "People, so many people, you can't believe how many people are begging me to run.. they say please President Trump you and only you can save our great country"...

getagrip_already

(14,618 posts)
18. I see it from his ego's perspective....
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:01 PM
Nov 2022

Ultimately, his ego could not stand for another candidate to run and win. Not only would it lock in his status of lose in 2020, it would mean someone else won when he lost. That is going to be his biggest fear.

So he has one of two paths to avoid that. Run, and even if he loses again he can just play the same stolen election game. That gets him the spotlight and continual coverage. He loves attention.

Or not run due to health reasons and make sure whoever does run loses. But that will surely put him in the shadows where he hates to be.

Of those, he is delusional enough to think he can win, and also derail or delay any prosecutions.

So my prediction is he will run.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
21. My guess is that he's leaving the Republican party and forming his own party.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:06 PM
Nov 2022

He's undecided about a run for the presidency, but he will ask his followers to leave the Republican party.

Metaphorical

(1,601 posts)
30. That's my thinking as well
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 09:23 PM
Nov 2022

Murdoch's slammed the door on supporting him, Fox is beginning to remessage, and there are enough people in the RNC who see the writing on the wall that they are already beginning to cut ties. Trump is not a GOP loyalist and he may very well believe that if he runs as an independent, he may pull more from the independent, conservative Dem and third party vote in addition to the MAGAs. I doubt that will make all that much of a difference, but I also see him wanting to bypass the primaries and a defeat by DeSantis. By setting up the Trump/Maga party, he could win with a plurality.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
33. Back in 2016, Republicans were scared that Trump would leave the party and run as an independent.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 11:11 PM
Nov 2022

This is the Ross Perot scenario which Republicans blame for helping Clinton get elected twice. For most of the primary, they were more afraid of that than they were of him winning. Also, Trump starting his own party allows him to raise a lot of money which he can use as he sees fit.

Hamlette

(15,408 posts)
22. he has to be the center of attention, he'll keep us hanging as long as he can
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:06 PM
Nov 2022

he may announce he's running but he'll drop out.

He needs a hobby but he's too lazy.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,156 posts)
25. We're not worthy!
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:22 PM
Nov 2022


In the end, though, enough manly-men with tears in their eyes and frogs in their pants will convince him that life as we know it will end without his firm, masterful grip on the loins of the state. So send him lots of money, or it'll be YOUR fault!

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
27. I definately can see him doing that.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:33 PM
Nov 2022

He is a big, fat, spoiled baby and if he doesn't get everything his way he throws a fit and stomps off in a huff.

tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
29. I doubt that. He never wants to be seen as weak
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:54 PM
Nov 2022

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I think he will announce that he is running, even if he has no intention to run. His narcissism will not let him step back. Even if he has no intent to run, he’s not going to let Desantis continue unscathed.

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