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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think the Democrats could have held the House if they had repealed the GOP Tax
On state and local taxes paid. I can't help but feel like the Democrats missed an opportunity. Such actions would have been big in at least NJ and NY where they lost Congressional races
JohnSJ
(92,060 posts)nothing to brag about.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/turnout-was-high-again-is-this-the-new-normal/
Ninga
(8,272 posts)JohnSJ
(92,060 posts)we will be stuck in a "ground hog day" scenario for a long time
RAB910
(3,484 posts)JohnSJ
(92,060 posts)choose, preserving social security and Medicare, preventing price gouging on insulin and other drugs, the chips act, etc etc etc
RAB910
(3,484 posts)it was a no-brainer to roll back that ugly double tax they instituted. Why didn't they? They lost how many seats between NJ and NY (and they are not the only states that suffered from the Republican's evil schemes)?
JohnSJ
(92,060 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Are you referring to the loss of a deduction. Which is quite different than being double taxed.
RAB910
(3,484 posts)don't have. which is a DOUBLE tax
MichMan
(11,864 posts)Already paid income taxes on the money. Why aren't those deductible?
In my state we have sales taxes on top of gas taxes, so triple taxed.
RAB910
(3,484 posts)The GOP is taxing money you never see
MichMan
(11,864 posts)Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)the house due to gerrymandering. And New York and California fucked up.
RAB910
(3,484 posts)we will lose more
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)in exit polls. It was not a voting issue.
RAB910
(3,484 posts)That tax was so unpopular that it was a major reason the Democrats got control of the House. It was an unforced error not to score major points by repealing it
Johonny
(20,817 posts)They were swept into power by purple district turnout in the last mid-year running on this issue. They then have done nothing to address the issue. It is unpopular with purple district voters. Even doubling the cap would have been wise. Not addressing it at all was unwise.
Still, they will get another chance to make this a real issue come the GOP tax plan battle that is to come. The GOP plan to extend the Trump tax increase (it didn't cut these people's taxes at all) will be unpopular in purple districts. The senate would be unwise to not include a SALT cap repeal or increase to their counter proposal.
MichMan
(11,864 posts)Most of the rest of the country doesn't understand why wealthy people living in mansions deserve more tax breaks.
Scrivener7
(50,901 posts)And yes. That double tax sucks.
Mad_Machine76
(24,391 posts)sunk by our saboteurs?
RAB910
(3,484 posts)iemanja
(53,012 posts)Pretending one move would have changed historical circumstances isn't accurate.
Republicans would have claimed we had raised people's taxes. The airways would have been full of ads saying as much. It could have actually hurt us.
RAB910
(3,484 posts)Right thing and helping the American people wouldn't have helped the Democrats at the polls
iemanja
(53,012 posts)And some Americans saw it that way. Republicans would have argued that Democrats had raised people's taxes. It's not just about what's right. It's how people perceive something.
But it's one provision of that package, so maybe you're right on this. It mostly affects blue states, but we did lose seats in NY, Co, and CA.
MichMan
(11,864 posts)For the vast number of people who don't itemize it did result in their taxes going down. Repealing the Trump tax cuts would cause all those people's taxes to go up which would be very unpopular
DFW
(54,268 posts)Not allowing the deduction of state and local taxes from federal gross income is the equivalent of double taxation. Unfortunately double taxation goes on in many places. It's not just a Republican invention, although this particular version is typical of them, tailored to hit people in blue states hardest. People in states like NY and NJ, who get hard with local taxes, are surely eager to have the Trump axing of their deductions repealed. Not doing so is a mistake, in my humble opinion. If someone makes $100,000 in a costly part of New York or NJ, and they pay a total of 10%, i.e. $10,000, in local taxes, they should be taxed federally on $90,000, i.e. what they have left after paying local taxes, not on $100,000, because that means they are paying federal taxes on the $10,000 that their state of residence already took from them. That just isn't right. It mostly penalizes people who live in nice states to live in (blue states, e.g.).
At least you have Senators and Congresspeople you can write to about it. We Americans Abroad (9 million of us, after all, 6 million of voting age--about a middle ranking if we were a 51st state, except with no representation at all) have no champions at all, and some of us are in the dubious position of being double taxed (I'm about 67%, for example) with no one in DC who gives a rat's ass until it comes time to ask us for contributions. The fact that I have to earn three times gross pay for any contributions I make gets an "oh, really?" from the Democrats in Congress I know. Only CCM of Nevada has even offered to follow up. But they are ALL there with their hands outstretched for contributions at election time, you can be sure of that!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,711 posts)The what ifs are always hard to proove.