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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:20 AM Nov 2022

When Trump announced he is running, he also announced a major national security threat.

Himself. Garland and every prosecutor investigating Trump know he is guilty. They know he stole secret documents, attempted a coup.
They know Trump should never be allowed near the White House ever again. Trump running for president is a major national security threat and the majority of the American people know it.

In my opinion, Garland appointed a special prosecutor in direct response to Trumps announcement. This told me the investigations are moving full steam ahead towards indictments.

Some people are comparing this special counsel to Mueller. That is a false comparison. The Mueller investigation was limited in scope. Trump was president and AG Barr buried the Mueller report. None of that is true in this case.

I must also say this again, the investigations have not been taking too long. Garland did not take office until March 2021. At best he has been investigating Trump for 18 months. Being these are the largest most sensitive investigations in our history, 18 months is not too long.

This is just a guess. I believe we will see Trump indicted in the secret document investigation first. It will not take long for the special counsel to be briefed on that case. That is not really a complicated case. They have smoking gun evidence when it comes to obstruction of justice. Trump defied a grand jury subpoena. That is a felony. They found documents in his office and desk so Trump has no defense.

Some DU members have said they wish Trump would die and be gone forever. I would not complain if that happens. Trump has been disrupting our country and our lives for too long. If he died it would be a great relief.

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When Trump announced he is running, he also announced a major national security threat. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Nov 2022 OP
It's dreadful to wish someone dead cyclonefence Nov 2022 #1
I reached there before you malaise Nov 2022 #2
Me too bdamomma Nov 2022 #8
DeSantis will just take his place and he is more dangerous. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #3
I agree musclecar6 Nov 2022 #6
I dont think MAGAs want someone smarter, better educated and more focused...they want Trump. sop Nov 2022 #9
True, DeSantis does not have the funny, diabolical charm that Trump has. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #11
The court just ruled against DeathSentence malaise Nov 2022 #10
Oh I missed that. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #12
Here malaise Nov 2022 #13
Many thanks Malaise. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #15
Really good news malaise Nov 2022 #16
Yes maybe the GOP fascist experiment will not take hold here in the US. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #17
Trump is a one of a kind dangerous freak of nature. fightforfreedom Nov 2022 #14
Criminals learn a lot from each other. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #18
Direct response-- I agree Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #4
I agree musclecar6 Nov 2022 #5
I am bdamomma Nov 2022 #7
Trump will never again be in a position of importance in the US government BootinUp Nov 2022 #19
It was totally obvious Trump was running for well over a year. David__77 Nov 2022 #20

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
1. It's dreadful to wish someone dead
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:30 AM
Nov 2022

but as long as Trump is around, his cult will persist in disrupting our democracy. I don't think anyone else has the (I hate to call it) charisma he has for the stupid citizens among us. I agree--he has to go, the sooner the better, whether through death or imprisonment. If he's put in jail, though, for his obvious, egregious crimes, he might be able to carry on, as a martyr. It is a cult, and without its Beloved Leader, I don't think it will survive.

malaise

(268,925 posts)
2. I reached there before you
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:38 AM
Nov 2022

I wish he'd stroke out, have a heart attack, jump, fall. whatthefuckever - just begone.

Irish_Dem

(46,915 posts)
3. DeSantis will just take his place and he is more dangerous.
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:54 AM
Nov 2022

He is smarter, educated and better focused.

musclecar6

(1,685 posts)
6. I agree
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:33 AM
Nov 2022


He is proceeding full speed ahead to do to Florida, and then the country, if he can get elected president. Then do to us, what Elon musk is doing to Twitter.

A would be tyrant on steroids.

sop

(10,155 posts)
9. I dont think MAGAs want someone smarter, better educated and more focused...they want Trump.
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:10 AM
Nov 2022

For some inexplicable reason, perhaps it's his "charisma," they are still in thrall to Trump. His schtick might be wearing thin right about now, but his followers don't seem to care. You have to give Trump his due; the guy is a consummate bullshit artist and a highly skilled con man. DeSantis has positioned himself as the most likely Trump substitute; he's meaner, nastier, crueler, more arrogant, a bigger bully and a more virulent racist, but he's not Trump.

I watched DeSantis address a crowd in Miami; he said all the right things, but he failed to stir up the same emotions and passions. The man is dull, boring, humorless, far too earnest and "sanctimonious." The Republican establishment and rightwing media believe DeSantis will appeal to the same crowd, but I don't think he'll be able to replace Trump in their hearts. They'll vote for him, but they won't love him.

Irish_Dem

(46,915 posts)
17. Yes maybe the GOP fascist experiment will not take hold here in the US.
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:33 AM
Nov 2022

We can hope and yes this is good news.

Irish_Dem

(46,915 posts)
18. Criminals learn a lot from each other.
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:35 AM
Nov 2022

What works, what doesn't work.

There are evil ones right now figuring out how they can replicate Trump's success.

Tetrachloride

(7,833 posts)
4. Direct response-- I agree
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:03 AM
Nov 2022

with your paragraph

Garland appointed a special prosecutor in direct response to Trumps announcement. This told me the investigations are moving full steam ahead towards indictments.

musclecar6

(1,685 posts)
5. I agree
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:28 AM
Nov 2022


That is the clearest signal, that Garland has sent to date, that things are proceeding full speed ahead.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
7. I am
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:41 AM
Nov 2022

one of those DU'ers who believe in your last 2 sentences of your post. He continues to be a THREAT to all of us.

BootinUp

(47,139 posts)
19. Trump will never again be in a position of importance in the US government
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:36 AM
Nov 2022

Any National Security threat he poses is because of something he stole already. nt

David__77

(23,369 posts)
20. It was totally obvious Trump was running for well over a year.
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:59 AM
Nov 2022

If they think Trump is a national security threat, he hasn’t been treated as such - not at all. And not now.

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