Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:51 AM
fightforfreedom (4,075 posts)
Holy shit! There may be another reason Garland appointed a Special Counsel.
Garland told us he appointed a SC because Trump announced he is running for president. I have no reason to doubt this.
However, Garland knows the Republicans took back the House. Garland knows there will now be Non-stop fake hearings and he will be a big target of these fake hearings. These hearings will be led by traitor Jim Jordan who was a part of J6. He will be interrogating Garland about the J6 investigation. You can't make this shit up. Garland knows the Republicans are going to hound him. They will attempt to disrupt him, make him look corrupt. They are going to keep Garland busy defending the investigations. By appointing a SC, it will assure the investigations are not disrupted. It will also give Garland cover as he is being interrogated by the very traitors he is investigating. Think about it.
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fightforfreedom | Nov 19 | OP |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #1 | |
fightforfreedom | Nov 19 | #13 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Nov 19 | #41 | |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #42 | |
jaxexpat | Nov 19 | #58 | |
Dustlawyer | Nov 20 | #94 | |
getagrip_already | Nov 19 | #45 | |
ananda | Nov 19 | #61 | |
markodochartaigh | Nov 19 | #91 | |
Roy Rolling | Nov 20 | #96 | |
PatrickforB | Nov 19 | #84 | |
certainot | Nov 19 | #93 | |
HUAJIAO | Nov 19 | #2 | |
Bev54 | Nov 19 | #59 | |
FoxNewsSucks | Nov 19 | #68 | |
Bev54 | Nov 19 | #71 | |
agingdem | Nov 19 | #72 | |
NJCher | Nov 19 | #76 | |
Lovie777 | Nov 19 | #3 | |
KPN | Nov 19 | #43 | |
Maraya1969 | Nov 19 | #75 | |
ProfessorGAC | Nov 19 | #80 | |
Mike_in_LA | Nov 19 | #4 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Nov 19 | #6 | |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #7 | |
TNNurse | Nov 19 | #11 | |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #12 | |
Turbineguy | Nov 19 | #63 | |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #65 | |
paleotn | Nov 19 | #24 | |
Mike_in_LA | Nov 19 | #27 | |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #30 | |
Mike_in_LA | Nov 19 | #48 | |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #51 | |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #52 | |
Mike_in_LA | Nov 19 | #89 | |
pnwmom | Nov 19 | #81 | |
Mike_in_LA | Nov 19 | #88 | |
paleotn | Nov 19 | #26 | |
malaise | Nov 19 | #5 | |
Goodheart | Nov 19 | #8 | |
Farmer-Rick | Nov 19 | #15 | |
fightforfreedom | Nov 19 | #16 | |
Farmer-Rick | Nov 19 | #18 | |
fightforfreedom | Nov 19 | #23 | |
Farmer-Rick | Nov 19 | #31 | |
LenaBaby61 | Nov 19 | #50 | |
Effete Snob | Nov 19 | #19 | |
fightforfreedom | Nov 19 | #25 | |
Effete Snob | Nov 19 | #34 | |
Farmer-Rick | Nov 19 | #35 | |
Fiendish Thingy | Nov 19 | #66 | |
paleotn | Nov 19 | #29 | |
onetexan | Nov 19 | #9 | |
Traildogbob | Nov 19 | #10 | |
Rebl2 | Nov 19 | #14 | |
NoMoreRepugs | Nov 19 | #17 | |
CanonRay | Nov 19 | #20 | |
paleotn | Nov 19 | #21 | |
Joinfortmill | Nov 19 | #22 | |
nightwing1240 | Nov 19 | #28 | |
kwijybo | Nov 19 | #32 | |
RocRizzo55 | Nov 19 | #33 | |
usonian | Nov 19 | #36 | |
Magoo48 | Nov 19 | #39 | |
Thunderbeast | Nov 19 | #37 | |
Grasswire2 | Nov 19 | #78 | |
SheltieLover | Nov 19 | #38 | |
MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #40 | |
1WorldHope | Nov 19 | #44 | |
sop | Nov 19 | #46 | |
onecaliberal | Nov 19 | #57 | |
fightforfreedom | Nov 19 | #64 | |
BlueIdaho | Nov 19 | #67 | |
Lasher | Nov 19 | #73 | |
Celerity | Nov 20 | #95 | |
Emile | Nov 19 | #47 | |
Captain Zero | Nov 19 | #77 | |
FlyingPiggy | Nov 19 | #49 | |
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MarineCombatEngineer | Nov 19 | #55 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Nov 19 | #54 | |
wiggs | Nov 19 | #56 | |
wnylib | Nov 19 | #85 | |
True Blue American | Nov 19 | #60 | |
Fiendish Thingy | Nov 19 | #62 | |
YoshidaYui | Nov 19 | #69 | |
fightforfreedom | Nov 19 | #70 | |
The Unmitigated Gall | Nov 19 | #74 | |
Justice matters. | Nov 19 | #79 | |
traitorsgalore | Nov 19 | #87 | |
Cha | Nov 19 | #82 | |
soldierant | Nov 19 | #83 | |
JustAnotherGen | Nov 19 | #86 | |
Samrob | Nov 19 | #90 | |
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:52 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
1. Very astute thinking,
and probably right.
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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:15 AM
fightforfreedom (4,075 posts)
13. My wife often laughs at me because she catches me in very deep thought.
Sometimes she will catch me pacing back and forth thinking and I do not know I am pacing back and forth. It is my way of thinking things through. Looking at all possibilities. I do not like making quick, rash decisions.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #13)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:07 AM
Hermit-The-Prog (26,515 posts)
41. When I am in very deep thought, my wife often elbows me until I stop snoring.
Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #41)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:09 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
42. My late wife used to yell at me when I was in deep thought,
she wanted to make sure I wasn't dead.
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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #41)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:06 AM
jaxexpat (4,875 posts)
58. Wife wife stopped my deep thinking years ago.
Was probably for the best.
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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #41)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 06:10 AM
Dustlawyer (10,307 posts)
94. +1!
Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #13)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:38 AM
getagrip_already (10,165 posts)
45. we call it bump-think.......
We saw a cartoon that had a panel with a dog thinking, then bumping into a wall with its head, then thinking again, then bumping again.
We now call moments of thought bump-thinks. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #13)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:10 AM
ananda (27,201 posts)
61. That's how Yeats worked too!
Must be a good thing!
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Response to ananda (Reply #61)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 07:46 PM
markodochartaigh (362 posts)
91. Yeats
"...Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity." |
Response to markodochartaigh (Reply #91)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 06:38 AM
Roy Rolling (6,199 posts)
96. Wisdom!
Thanks, I will remember these words forever: The centre cannot hold
We don’t drive vehicles in the center of a lane, we drive between the lane markers. Neither too much in either direction. Meaning the edges define the road, not the middle. Same for political parties and constituents. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #13)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 03:27 PM
PatrickforB (13,906 posts)
84. This was a good post, you know. Good thinking about Garland's strategy and
the despicable traitor Jim Jordan.
As to wives - one time mine asked me a question and I gave her a rather involved answer. She asked me if I actually knew or if I was just making shit up. Wives are great that way - they keep us humble. |
Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:37 PM
certainot (9,032 posts)
93. asswipes who will be questioning him, like jordan, are going to be suspects so
it makes total sense
and that's another reason why McCarthy has to surrender to the nut jobs (he's not far off). how many republican congresspeople and senators can they afford to get caught up and implicated as accomplices in a violent coup attempt with those margins? |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:53 AM
HUAJIAO (2,239 posts)
2. Garland did say that trump's announcing was ONE OF THE REASONS he was appointing a SC.
Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:08 AM
Bev54 (7,335 posts)
59. Don't forget that the repubs took back the house, I believe that is a big reason
because it well be many republican congressional congress persons were likely involved in the insurrection, including the new head of the judiciary committee who wants to impeach Garland and at the very least will be trying to call him in for information. It keeps the information away from Gym and his merry bandits prior to their possible arrests.
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Response to Bev54 (Reply #59)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:18 AM
FoxNewsSucks (9,640 posts)
68. I'd love to see enough of them arrested that they lose the House
Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #68)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:29 AM
Bev54 (7,335 posts)
71. That would be the soooo glorious, I try not to think about it, so no jinx.
I rather like to concentrate on justice to those who are guilty.
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Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:35 AM
agingdem (6,220 posts)
72. and the Special Counsel has prosecutorial powers.
Garland understands he's going to be a frequent "guest" of Jim Jordan's clown show ..he's wisely insulating Jack Smith and the two investigations...
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Response to agingdem (Reply #72)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:51 AM
NJCher (31,841 posts)
76. I don't see these "hearings" going well
Just the thought of Mental Lowbrow Gym Jordan asking someone like Merrick Garland a question is bound to result in long moments of silence, a la Ketanji Brown Jackson.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:55 AM
Lovie777 (6,986 posts)
3. Yep......
and they want to defund the F.B.I., DOJ any other law enforcement's, ICs all to cover up their corrupt and wrong doing which includes crimes against the USA.
Investigations against Dems are a deflection. |
Response to Lovie777 (Reply #3)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:12 AM
KPN (14,525 posts)
43. Defunding and then doing their own "investigating".
What a traitorous bunch of hacks.
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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #3)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:40 AM
Maraya1969 (20,650 posts)
75. Can they defund the FBI???? Then what? We just don't have an FBI anymore.
Interstate sex trafficking just becomes OK?
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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #75)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 01:10 PM
ProfessorGAC (56,734 posts)
80. Not Going To Happen
Think about it.
It only takes 5 R reps from purple districts (NY, CA, MI, etc.) to cross the aisle and it fails. Their grip on power with such a slim minority, Ds controlling the Senate and D POTUS is tenuous. They won't get their way anyway. If those defections happen (we're talking 2% of their whole contingent) they look like failures, and since their whole approach to Congress is to look like their powerful, they'd expose themselves as impotent. They're not going to set themselves up in '24 for accusations of "defunding the police" with no hope of success in the first place. They're obstinate, obstuctionist, and not all that bright, but they're not suicidal. This is all talk right now and they will never pursue it come January. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:57 AM
Mike_in_LA (159 posts)
4. As if they won't call Jack Smith in too?
Eom
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Response to Mike_in_LA (Reply #4)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:00 AM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,174 posts)
6. They can call, but he is forbidden to talk. . . nt
Response to Mike_in_LA (Reply #4)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:01 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
7. They can't force him to answer questions,
so calling him in would be worthless.
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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #7)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:10 AM
TNNurse (6,328 posts)
11. But they will do it anyway, just for theater.
It will make fools think they are doing something.
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Response to TNNurse (Reply #11)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:12 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
12. Oh you're probably right,
but I will love the look on Gym's face when Mr. Smith tells him to go pound sand, in a diplomatic way of course.
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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #12)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:13 AM
Turbineguy (35,643 posts)
63. Something like
Smith: "Do you want the diplomatic answer or the truth?"
Gym: "Diplomatic" Smith: "Go pound sand." |
Response to Turbineguy (Reply #63)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:14 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
65. +100.
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Response to TNNurse (Reply #11)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:42 AM
paleotn (15,299 posts)
24. Ignore them. Slow walk it. Make them sue.
Give them a taste of their own medicine.
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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #7)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:45 AM
Mike_in_LA (159 posts)
27. You think that matters to them?
Having him on the Hill in front of their committees with or without answers keeps him from the case all the same.
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Response to Mike_in_LA (Reply #27)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:48 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
30. See post 12. nt
Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #30)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:43 AM
Mike_in_LA (159 posts)
48. It means nothing.
The premise that appointing a SC will prevent the GOP from effectively hindering and interfering is what I'm taking about. Post 12 is talking about the kabuki theater of it all.
If that's where your want to claim a W, enjoy. |
Response to Mike_in_LA (Reply #48)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:46 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
51. Ok.
Enjoy.
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Response to Mike_in_LA (Reply #48)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:52 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
52. LOL.
You really think he's doing this investigation all by his little lonesome self?
![]() Let me clue you in, he's not, he'll have a whole gaggle of staff helping with this investigation, so even though he might be called to appear before Gym's committee, it won't slow down the investigation one whit. |
Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #52)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 05:31 PM
Mike_in_LA (159 posts)
89. At zero point did I suggest he is doing that
However, he IS the point person for ALL the DOJ investigations and tying his time up means it delays and obstructs his ability to run point - whether it's analysis, research, or decision making.
Don't roll too far off the edge in your laughter. |
Response to Mike_in_LA (Reply #48)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 02:37 PM
pnwmom (107,313 posts)
81. They couldn't question Mueller while his work was ongoing. The point of a Special Counsel
is that it is isolated from political interference -- either from the President OR from Congress.
Don't you think they would have been hauling Robert Mueller in frequently if they'd been able to? |
Response to pnwmom (Reply #81)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 05:28 PM
Mike_in_LA (159 posts)
88. Maybe you're right
I hope you are.
My prevailing point is that if there is any angle to disrupt, the GOP will push through it no matter the procedural layering DOJ tries to implement. |
Response to Mike_in_LA (Reply #4)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:44 AM
paleotn (15,299 posts)
26. They can try. Doesn't mean he'll show up before the damage is done to their orange god.
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:59 AM
malaise (252,661 posts)
5. Precisely
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:02 AM
Goodheart (4,524 posts)
8. Yeah, great... Garland should have already indicted, so I'm not impressed with CYA at this point.
Response to Goodheart (Reply #8)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:26 AM
Farmer-Rick (8,055 posts)
15. Exactly this
If he was worried that the House would go to the GOPers, as all the polls indicated, and they would investigate him, then he should have indicted before the election. Having the House change hands should have been even more reason to act faster and indict sooner. Burn some midnight oil slow poke.
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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #15)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:33 AM
fightforfreedom (4,075 posts)
16. Prosecutors do not make decisions based on assumptions.
Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #16)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:36 AM
Farmer-Rick (8,055 posts)
18. And the assumption was?
It was clear from 6 months ago that the house was going GOP.
And even if it hadn't, it's not a bad thing to move quickly and indict. |
Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #18)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:40 AM
fightforfreedom (4,075 posts)
23. I am going to indict Trump now because he might run for president.
I am going to indict Trump now because the Republicans have a good chance of winning the House.
Prosecutors do not work that way. It was not clear the Republicans were going to win the House. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #23)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:50 AM
Farmer-Rick (8,055 posts)
31. Oh, so you think the pivot was due to Trump throwing in his hat?
It kinda was in the polling that the house would change hands. Not the bad polling at the end but early on.
But you should sometimes plan for the bad and hope for the good. But I get your point about it being more of a guesstimate. |
Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #31)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:46 AM
LenaBaby61 (6,335 posts)
50. Too bad that those seats in NY were lost ..
Because they didn't have to be. The DCCC screwed up, and it didn't help that Patrick Maloney was on vacation when he should have been campaigning. A relative in Jamaica Queens told me this was going to happen, and darned if she wasn't right. Cuomo had a hand in this disastrous feud also. IF Biden could have gotten the house flat out. Now, I do feel that the GQP US Taliban Party could lose the house before 2024, because some of them were inolvment in Jan. 6th. ciil insurrection. It's meant for the country to see just how treasonous and how craen & hideous the likes of Marjorie traitor Greene, Gym Jordan are, because whoeer is house Speaker for that bunch of asses, they won't be able to control them beccause they're unhinged, evil traitors. Dems have to hammer on them on how THEY will stop inflation, just like they hammered Dems with that nonsense, especially duing this global pandemic and especially with all this price-gouging (ALL of the GQP voted against anti-gouging leglation) by these greedy CEO's who made reccord profits. The GQP don't know how to govern, and Dems really need to hang that around their necks like a loadstone every day.
Democrats May Lose U.S. House Because New York Dem. Leaders Were Too Focused on Defeating the Left The balance of power in Congress is still up in the air two days after Tuesday’s midterm elections, and control of the Senate now rests on three states: Nevada, Arizona and Georgia. Meanwhile, Republicans have not yet won enough House seats to regain the majority, though there are still over 30 House races not yet decided. Many analysts say if Democrats lose control of the House, it may largely be because of New York state, where Republicans have flipped four congressional seats. Sochie Nnaemeka, director of the New York Working Families Party, says the “low-participation, low-energy election” was the result of the Democrats’ “failed strategies at the state level.” https://www.democracynow.org/2022/11/10/congress_midterm_elections_republicans_flip_seats |
Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #16)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:36 AM
Effete Snob (5,221 posts)
19. Lol, I'd like you to meet Special Counsel John Durham...
Two indictments, zero convictions, lots of assumptions:
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Response to Effete Snob (Reply #19)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:42 AM
fightforfreedom (4,075 posts)
25. Corrupt special counsel John Durham.
He wasn't making assumptions, he was lying.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #25)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:56 AM
Effete Snob (5,221 posts)
34. The point being...
...prosecutors can be as fucked up as anyone else.
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Response to Effete Snob (Reply #19)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:56 AM
Farmer-Rick (8,055 posts)
35. I forgot about that A hole
What a piece of crap.
I was thinking the assumption would be the House changing hands. But I can see where the assumption that Trump was going to throw his hat in, might have been a bigger assumption. You could plan for the house changing hands but not what that idiot Trump might do. |
Response to Effete Snob (Reply #19)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:16 AM
Fiendish Thingy (11,540 posts)
66. Apt comparison, but not for the reasons you think
Durham was able to work independently and unimpeded across two administrations. The fact that he was on an actual “Witch Hunt” that came up empty handed doesn’t diminish the power and protected autonomy of a special counsel- and that’s what a lot of folks are missing about Smith.
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Response to Goodheart (Reply #8)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:45 AM
paleotn (15,299 posts)
29. And you have intimate knowledge of the investigation...
and evidence currently in hand in order to make such a statement? How would that be?
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:05 AM
onetexan (11,631 posts)
9. Agree, this MAY be a brilliant move on his part
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:06 AM
Traildogbob (6,371 posts)
10. And like they did Mueller
Gym will try to have Garland turn over evidence to the committee.
This was a move that HAD to be done. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:15 AM
Rebl2 (9,782 posts)
14. I believe you are correct
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:33 AM
NoMoreRepugs (7,728 posts)
17. Same tired old RePug playbook - smear by an overwhelming # of
investigations amplified by Faux and HateRadio. Hunter’s supposed laptop will become the single greatest threat to mankind in ALL of history and all Democrats will be linked to it.
Let’s see if MSM goes along with the plot. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:37 AM
CanonRay (12,881 posts)
20. This is the first explanation I've read that made sense to me.
Thanks.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:39 AM
paleotn (15,299 posts)
21. And some of those Congressional Rethugs may be targets
In my mind, this is a strategic move, gamed out for a while now. Not a knee jerk reaction.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:40 AM
Joinfortmill (9,908 posts)
22. Excellent point.
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:45 AM
nightwing1240 (1,564 posts)
28. All I want to hear from Garland and the DOJ is
that tRump has been indicted. Enough with the semantics and wasting time. Many many crimes have been committed, arrest the bastard and be done with it!
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:53 AM
kwijybo (188 posts)
32. Pretty much got it
Jim Jordan is going to be head of the Judiciary Committee, and will have access to all of the information in regular investigations.
Jim Jordan, along with at least one other Republican, is a part of the 6Jan investigation (remember his phone call. IIRC, he was also mentioned as being part of it in other phone captures already obtained). Won't even go into what a scumbag he is, and the possibility of him pulling a Nunes with the information. A SC investigation is firewalled, IIRC, from everyone to prevent political interference. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:54 AM
RocRizzo55 (526 posts)
33. Perhaps any Dems who are subpoenaed
Should just ignore them, just as they did when subpoenaed by the J6 committee. They get brought up on contempt of Congress, then they get pardoned by Biden. That would surely throw a monkey wrench into their antics
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 09:57 AM
usonian (3,843 posts)
36. Call me when the congresspeople who conspired
to set up and conduct the coup are in the slammer.
![]() Whole wheat that gives shy persons the strength to get up and invade the Capitol Building. Heavens, they're tasty, and so seditious!" Paint the effing house blue. |
Response to usonian (Reply #36)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:06 AM
Magoo48 (3,697 posts)
39. Yup, until such time it's mostly horseshit, gunsmoke, lateral slide, speculation and repeat.
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:00 AM
Thunderbeast (2,728 posts)
37. Is it too late to indict based on the Mueller Report obstruction?
...While we're at it.
Consecutive terms resulting in 150 years ought to serve justice! |
Response to Thunderbeast (Reply #37)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 12:46 PM
Grasswire2 (12,820 posts)
78. statute of limitations has passed on those potential charges
Garland just let it go off in the wind. As if that never happened!
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:03 AM
SheltieLover (54,076 posts)
38. Yup
And I've read SC is not required to share info with qpukes.
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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #38)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:07 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
40. That is correct,
I will love to see the look on Gym's face when Mr. Smith tells him to go pound sand up his ass, in a diplomatic way of course.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:28 AM
1WorldHope (130 posts)
44. Just like the 1940's.
I just listened to Rachael Maddow's Ultra while traveling. My husband got a bachelor's in political science and said he had never been taught anything in college about that near end to our democracy. That is the play book the Putin sympathizers are using. Ultra needs to be turned into a movie so America will watch and learn. That's the only way to teach America anything. It has to look like entertainment.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:41 AM
sop (8,927 posts)
46. All very good points, but one thing bothers me.
Given the DOJ's Election Sensitivities rule, will the Special Counsel be able to indict Trump in the middle of his "campaign"? Garland said he appointed a Special Counsel now because Trump declared his 2024 run a few days ago. Apparently, the DOJ sees a potential conflict of interest in prosecuting Trump now because the DOJ's Election Sensitivities rule prevents investigations and prosecutions of political candidates during election season. Wouldn't the Special Counsel's investigation, possible indictment and prosecution of Trump, a declared candidate, also be a conflict of interest and violate the DOJ rule?
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Response to sop (Reply #46)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:59 AM
onecaliberal (28,677 posts)
57. The cons don't care about campaigns, they are trying to grab power by any means.
Think about it. They’re good with sharing our top secrets with putrid.
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Response to sop (Reply #46)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:14 AM
fightforfreedom (4,075 posts)
64. I believe that only applies 60 days before an election.
Response to sop (Reply #46)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:17 AM
BlueIdaho (12,949 posts)
67. I believe Garland said
TFG’s political announcement would have no impact on any investigation.
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Response to sop (Reply #46)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:37 AM
Lasher (25,577 posts)
73. The DOJ's Election Sensitivities Rule generally prohibits investigations and prosecutions
of a candidate for 60 days before an election. But that didn't help Hillary any, did it?
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Response to sop (Reply #46)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 06:24 AM
Celerity (34,242 posts)
95. We have, IMHO, only 14 months to start a trial. Once the primaries start, no chance Garland does so
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:42 AM
Emile (10,220 posts)
47. Republicans have been good teachers on how to ignore house subpoenas.
Garland could just ignore them!
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Response to Emile (Reply #47)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 12:01 PM
Captain Zero (5,226 posts)
77. Garland could slow walk their subpoenas too
Set a date two months out when he can meet them. Maybe Trump is indicted by then, and he says he can't discuss matters in an ongoing prosecution. Sorry, assholes.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:43 AM
FlyingPiggy (3,160 posts)
49. YESSS! I don't know why everyone is freaking out about this.
Response to FlyingPiggy (Reply #49)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:54 AM
ShazzieB (9,634 posts)
53. +1000!
So. Tired. Of. The. Hysteria. Over. This.
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Response to FlyingPiggy (Reply #49)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:57 AM
MarineCombatEngineer (8,637 posts)
55. +100. nt
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:54 AM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,783 posts)
54. Garland is protecting the investigations and coming prosecutions.
Seems crystal clear to me.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 10:59 AM
wiggs (7,184 posts)
56. I thought from the title of the OP that the other reason was an upcoming scotus vacancy...
...and it would be right to consider Garland
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Response to wiggs (Reply #56)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 04:41 PM
wnylib (16,411 posts)
85. Yeah, we need to use a different
abbreviation to avoid confusion. Instead of SC for special counsel, maybe SP for special prosecutor would help to distinguish him from the Supreme Court.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:08 AM
True Blue American (16,556 posts)
60. Bill Barr
Just said on PBS they had enough to indict Trump! His own AG!
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:12 AM
Fiendish Thingy (11,540 posts)
62. That was part of emptywheel's take yesterday
Consider the SC “Jim Jordan insurance”…
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:20 AM
YoshidaYui (40,047 posts)
69. life IN the USA is becoming
interesting.
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Response to YoshidaYui (Reply #69)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:27 AM
fightforfreedom (4,075 posts)
70. Your not kidding.
Crazy shit.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 11:39 AM
The Unmitigated Gall (1,999 posts)
74. Exactly.
The investigations are better protected from the Klown Kommittee, Emptee G and the rest of the KKKrew.
AND… As Lawrence O’Donnell pointed out the investigations now have a dedicated prosecutor, whereas before they were a couple of items on Garland’s very full plate. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 12:48 PM
Justice matters. (5,691 posts)
79. So the Fascist J6 House will not subpoena Jack Smith in their banana-republic style
hearings? Based on any batshit-crazy rationale?
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Response to Justice matters. (Reply #79)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 05:26 PM
traitorsgalore (1,049 posts)
87. Very astute thinking!
And 100% logical and correct. Nothing will stop the cult of Trumpites from attacking everyone. I don't think the cult of Garland defenders are capable of separating justice from their false notion that Garland somehow represents everything holy about the democratic party.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 03:05 PM
Cha (282,262 posts)
82. Wow.. Excellent points!
TY!
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 03:23 PM
soldierant (4,864 posts)
83. I've been saying this for several days - not just here - and getting mocked.
Thank you for you excellent expression of this opinion.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 05:14 PM
JustAnotherGen (30,403 posts)
86. He can play games with them
I don't recall.
Can you describe what you mean by gazpacho? Mr. Gym - I'm sorry Jordan . . . He's so measured and controlled - soft spoken . . . a simple question back will set off those shit flinging howler monkeys. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 05:36 PM
Samrob (3,585 posts)
90. To me, they (GOP House) are fools for bringing this up since quite a few of them are guilty also of
obstruction of justice, contempt of Congress, and complicit in the J^ insurrection. They are on tape both audio and video. Every time a Dem or DOJ witness gets a chance he or she should link the GOP behavior to those crimes. I wouldn't take much to answer any question they ask by linking one of them to the subject being questioned...even about Hunter Biden.
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 08:04 PM
Cha (282,262 posts)
92. KICK nt
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 07:21 AM
Judi Lynn (155,216 posts)
98. So glad to see your post! Thank you, fightforfreedom. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
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Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 08:03 AM
Dorian Gray (12,952 posts)
99. I also
read speculation that resonates that....
If they do indict trump, this investigation will take all of the AG's time that he won't be able to focus on other issues. Appointing the SC means they can have an investigator who can fully focus on this particular case. |
Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)
Sun Nov 20, 2022, 08:45 AM
Bluethroughu (3,207 posts)