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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 12:46 PM Dec 2022

The House January 6th Committee is Responsible for Turning the Tide

And by tide I mean: The Tide, as in "the tide of history." I thought twice about whether that is too bold a claim to make, and concluded, "Nah."

On the world stage the United States of America is currently without question the foremost force associated with the concept of "The Rule of Law", in a centuries old ongoing struggle by "the people" to curtail the power of monarchs and the like. But that by itself says too little. Dictatorships have laws too, and dictators use them quite effectively to rule. What makes the American Experiment in Democracy so important is the corollary concept; that "No one is above the law." Donald J Trump came perilously close to making a mockery of that.

Trump took a crowbar to the machinery of our Democracy, and the January 6th Committee a) effectively documented virtually all of Trump's efforts at institutional sabotage, and b) showcased it to brilliant effect in the glare of an unblinking public spotlight focused like a laser on it.

I will always believe that the work of the 1/6 Committee stiffened both the spine and resolve of those within the U.S. Department of Justice who are tasked with making the call whether to prosecute the former President for any number of potential crimes. They had/have to weigh the risks inherent in either seeking an indictment of a former POTUS, or turning the page instead, leaving it to historians to argue if legal inaction was ill guided. If they/had they chosen the latter, the America those future historians would have inhabited would differ greatly (IMHO) from the one we still live in today, in ways that would have set back the cause of freedom internationally for decades to come.

The January 6th Committee put the fear of "The Law" into a number of key witnesses to (and in some cases participants in) Donald Trumps acts of treason. Prior to the 1/6 Committee's disciplined, and ultimately very public probe, conventional wisdom for many of those figures was simply to lie low and allow it all to blow over, either that or to bluster outrageous lies to the media, never under any oath, without fear of perjury or related charges. As more and more witnesses came in to testify before the 1/6 Committee however, in many cases no doubt only to avoid possible Contempt of Congress charges, others felt compelled to also, if for no other reason than to cover their own asses as the true narrative of Trump's insurrection began to emerge.

All of this fed a growing public perception that Trump and his most rabid MAGA allies did indeed represent a threat to our Democracy. That in turn shifted public perceptions of what was at stake in the 2022 mid-term elections, helping Democrats secure a historically positive outcome for a Party in their position, holding both the presidency and both houses of Congress, under a first term president in uncertain economic times. It significantly contributed to the defeat, nation wide, of a wide slate of high profile Trump promoted candidates for office. And THAT in turn did irreparable damage to the Teflon coating Trump cultivated to enforce his role as the Republican king maker, exposing him as an Emperor with No (or at least moth eaten) Clothes.

I will never know with certainty how heavily, if at all, a fear of triggering off massive social unrest with a potential Trump prosecution, has weighed on our Department of Justice. I do know with a high degree of certainty that Trump's hand in threatening violent repercussions should DOJ move against him, is far weaker now than it was before the 1/6 Committee went to work. I firmly believe they turned the tide.

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The House January 6th Committee is Responsible for Turning the Tide (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Dec 2022 OP
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2022 #1
Well done, Tom... A good read !!! Karadeniz Dec 2022 #2
I'll second that housecat Dec 2022 #8
K & R Grumpy Old Guy Dec 2022 #3
LIKE republianmushroom Dec 2022 #4
And there were some in the legal sphere who thought the Jan6 Committee was grand-standing erronis Dec 2022 #5
At least we will get to see this report, as we should have been able to see most of the Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #6
The J6 committee did an outstanding job, it's historic. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #7
Dems need to make it into a documentary malaise Dec 2022 #13
Agree and I have thought many times, "no wonder the GOP didn't want an investigation" Hamlette Dec 2022 #9
Kick & highly recommended. William769 Dec 2022 #10
They did the heavy lifting, and moved much of America. calimary Dec 2022 #11
Great OP malaise Dec 2022 #12
Indeed, it is! H2O Man Dec 2022 #14
Yep malaise Dec 2022 #15
K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R TigressDem Dec 2022 #16
K&R Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #17
Excellent post Picaro Dec 2022 #18

erronis

(15,241 posts)
5. And there were some in the legal sphere who thought the Jan6 Committee was grand-standing
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 02:57 PM
Dec 2022

There was showmanship but it served its purposes. The US public was well-informed and apparently captivated by the proceedings.

When the final report comes out I believe its readership will be far higher than if there had not been publicized hearings. It'll be much harder for the republicons and insurrections to continue to pretend that there was just a busload of tourists eager to meat (stet) some congress people.

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
6. At least we will get to see this report, as we should have been able to see most of the
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 03:02 PM
Dec 2022

Mueller Report. I do not know why it has not been released, even if some names needed to be redacted.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
7. The J6 committee did an outstanding job, it's historic.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 03:14 PM
Dec 2022

It will be remembered forever. I don't know how much the committee influenced the DOJ. What the committee was doing and the DOJ were doing are two different things. Two completely different types of investigations. One thing is for sure.

Both of the investigations will come together are far as evidence is concerned. The DOJ will add the the committees evidence to their evidence.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
13. Dems need to make it into a documentary
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 04:44 PM
Dec 2022

And run and rerun it on the networks and cable. It must also be available on YouTube

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
9. Agree and I have thought many times, "no wonder the GOP didn't want an investigation"
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 03:40 PM
Dec 2022

I remember the first hearing, none of my friends watched thinking it would be a usual stupid Congressional hearing where a bunch a nut jobs ask stupid questions trying to embarrass the democrats. (Like 11 hours of Hillary testifying or every other hearing wherein republicans get to ask questions.)

I also think it turned the tide for Biden and the democrats knowing they could do something right after the GOP has convinced even some of us that we are libtards who eat babies.

Cheney and Kinsinger and the Lincoln Project. It has been a time like no other. But a very painful time to live through, for sure.

Picaro

(1,517 posts)
18. Excellent post
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 09:23 PM
Dec 2022

Great points. I also absolutely agree with you. Things changed after the first broadcast. This was expertly stage managed and very effective in convincing the majority that Trump must be prosecuted if the rule of law is to survive.

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