Is Musk actually helping our cause?

[RAB910]

Here's the thing, while Trump is a terrible person and human being and displays what sort of horrible people are conservatives in this nation, he had a gift when it came to appealing to certain people. Trump had a gift for making losers and bad people feel good about themselves, and they worshipped him for that.

Musk is all that is bad with Trump; only he lacks the gift. You don't see people liking, admiring, or supporting Elon Musk. I mean, right-wingers approve of his efforts to further their sinister agenda, but they don't like the guy.

So we have a thoroughly unlikeable monster who is now the poster boy for what it means to be a Republican/Libertarian/Conservative in America, and it's pretty much offputting to everyone.

[hurple]

1. Your thesis is incorrect...

"You don't see people liking, admiring, or supporting Elon Musk"

Is absolutely totally and completely incorrect. I meet people who respect, admire and will not let anyone say a negative word about him without shouting them down, everyday.

[Joe Cool]

3. Yeah, I agree with you.

People do admire Musk.

[RAB910]

5. I am not discounting your experience but I haven't seen that

I monitor right-wing social media and even discussed Musk with right-wingers. When challenged on Musk, they usually mount a "whataboutism" defense which is one they use when they know they are defending someone bad

[OneGrassRoot]

6. Agree. He has had a cult following for a while and...

it's growing with the QAnon/anti-vaxx/Nazi crowd coming into the fold.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

10. Agreed

I've seen people on here support, like and defend everything Phony Stark is doing, especially in regards to Twitter.

[Mad_Machine76]

11. Exactly

Some dudebros (mostly) will defend him with the same zeal that MAGAs defend and support Trump

[Ace Rothstein]

12. You're absolutely right.

They are almost always dudes in their 20's to 40's that simp for him.

[Demsrule86]

13. I think there are many folks who used to admire him but no longer do...he has become political

and said shitty things about Democrats and liberals. And it wasn't righties buying his shitty care (and they are shitty-if you have one that wasn't then play the lottery). And any liberals and Democrats who buy the cars which are at the bottom in terms of quality are putting money in this loser's pocket. It will be used against us.

[Joe Cool]

2. Long story short

One of my childhood friend’s parents met Trump in Trump Tower in NYC in the early 1990s. They said he was loud but likable but seemed to talk to everyone in the building when speaking to them. He initially asked them how did they like his building and then began to tell them about it. They said he definitely kept their interest.

[Demsrule86]

14. Really because my friends and I ran into Trump at the plaza...and he said filthy disgusting things

and acted like a jerk. He bankrupted several of Dad's friends by never paying them and is an all-around scum bag. I grew up in Connecticut and everyone knew what Trump was.

[Lovie777]

4. Not too many respect Musk.......

The supporters are usually the loud ones.

As to twitter, alas, RWers' hatred, racists, violence and un-realistic conspiracies again are flooding the airwaves. Dictatorship countries, fascist countries love this in it's existence of plotting to take control of the world. Democracies will never waiver for the lookout of the constant the good vs evil scenario.

[Demsrule86]

16. Musk is being sued for racism by California...he treat people of color like dirt...

He asked that they be hidden so he didn't have to see them and called several work areas by racist plantation names...like slave ship, plantation ETC...the "N" word was used and this is what Musk said about it. A Black woman was called he pregnant 'Black Bitch' after she fainted after a grueling shift...Musk is a racist piece of shit. And honestly, I don't block folks but I will block any that defend this scumbucket.

'Part of not being a huge jerk is considering how someone might feel who is part of a historically less represented group,” he wrote. “In fairness, if someone is a jerk to you, but sincerely apologizes, it is important to be thick-skinned and accept that apology. If you are part of a less represented group, you don’t get a free pass on being a jerk yourself.”

https://capitalandmain.com/recent-lawsuits-allege-pattern-of-racist-words-deeds-at-tesla-plant

[RAB910]

7. I just came across this which sort of supports what I am saying

https://www.psypost.org/2022/12/donald-trumps-tweets-attacking-the-media-congress-and-the-courts-often-backfired-study-suggests-64434

[brooklynite]

8. "You don't see people liking, admiring, or supporting Elon Musk"

You're not spending a lot of time on Twitter. He's got a big fanbase of people talking about what a great truth teller he is and how they're investing all their money in TESLA.

[RAB910]

9. How many of those are bots or paid?

[tinrobot]

17. Probablly some, but it goes beyond Twitter

Just frequent any electric car forum and you'll find them praising Musk/Tesla.

[MenloParque]

15. Ha!! I work in a department of engineers who absolutely idolize Elon.

[liberalla]

18. I used to think this guy must be brilliant to be the inventor/leader of tesla & spacex... but

that impression wore off quickly. It's not like he created and invented them all by himself. The more we hear and see him and the more he reveals himself, the less impressive he is. He is like drumpf in that way... he didn't continue to endear himself to people. He became more repulsive the more we learned. IMO.

(though I know he still has his fans)