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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 10:00 AM Jan 2023

I must point out the hypocrisy once again.

Some people, including some experts on the news are quick to complain, place blame on Garland, the DOJ for not holding the coup plotters accountable, yet. They say it's taking too long. They should have been indicted long ago.

The same people, the same experts, never do the same when it comes to the DA Willis investigation. Her investigation is the longest running investigation. Her investigation started before Garland took office. Her investigation is much, much, smaller than the DOJ investigation.

She has not indicted any of the coup plotters, yet. If you complain about Garland you must also complain about DA Willis.

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I must point out the hypocrisy once again. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Jan 2023 OP
Stir, stir, stir. Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #1
My post is in response to other posts here at DU and recent news reports. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #2
Why would or should anyone complain about Fani Willis? gab13by13 Jan 2023 #5
DOJ should have run a parallel investigation with Fani Willis. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #3
Your last line bears repeating: Scrivener7 Jan 2023 #7
Answer these questions. fightforfreedom Jan 2023 #10
Not by DOJ iemanja Jan 2023 #11
Some of us just apply a broad skepticism that the Mango Malefactor will be CentralMass Jan 2023 #4
The ranks of the wait and see crowd are dwindling. gab13by13 Jan 2023 #6
The J6 investigation is one thing, the stolen documents case is quite another. -nt CrispyQ Jan 2023 #8
Garland already relinquished responsibility iemanja Jan 2023 #9
 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
2. My post is in response to other posts here at DU and recent news reports.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 10:17 AM
Jan 2023

Posts and people on the news that complain about Garland and the DOJ. They never complain about the DA Willis investigation.

gab13by13

(21,319 posts)
5. Why would or should anyone complain about Fani Willis?
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 10:38 AM
Jan 2023

She didn't wait around going after Trump.

Once Merrick Garland decides it is proper to indict a former president, when do you think a Trump trial will happen? Democrats had better win the presidency in 2024 and 2028 because I don't see a Trump trial happening before 2026. It has taken E. Jeanne Caroll 3 1/2 years for her Trump defamation law suit.

The longer DOJ waited to investigate, the longer it will be to indict, the longer it will be to go to trial. What happened to Garland's pyramid strategy? He is supposed to be flipping people like Eastman, Clarke, and Meadows.

Give me the name of 1 prosecutor, former prosecutor, who says there is not enough evidence right now to indict Trump for the classified documents he stole. Give me one name.

gab13by13

(21,319 posts)
3. DOJ should have run a parallel investigation with Fani Willis.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 10:25 AM
Jan 2023

Andrew Weissman just yesterday said that he finds it amazing that DOJ has not gone after Trump's inner circle to get them to flip. He also said, time is of the essence,

Bothsider Ari Melber just stated that it appears that attorneys who were involved in the coup are being treated with more deference than the people who stormed the Capitol.

Meh, Jack Smith is in town. Word has it he is going to evaluate his team and weed out the slackers.

Almost 24 months.
Jan. 23nd the Iowa caucus.

Members of Congress who were complicit in the insurrection are going to be in charge of the House of Representatives.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
7. Your last line bears repeating:
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 11:24 AM
Jan 2023
"Members of Congress who were complicit in the insurrection are going to be in charge of the House of Representatives."

Has that sunk into people's consciousnesses? It's a travesty.
 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
10. Answer these questions.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 01:27 PM
Jan 2023

Are the DOJ grand juries still in place? Are witnesses still testifying before them? Are subpoenas still being issued in the fake elector scheme? Is evidence still being collected. Do the grand juries have to finish their work first before there can be indictments?

Is this the largest, most sensitive investigation in our history?

Are the people you are listening to on the news part of the Garland, Smith Investigations? Are they just making educated guesses?

Is time really of the essence? If so, when does time run out to indict people. Is there a certain date? Was it too late 6 months ago, a month ago? If it's too late why haven't the grand juries been dismissed?

You asked me why should people complain about Willis. I answered that question. She has been investigating Trump before Garland took office and she , like Garland, has not indicted anyone. If you complain about Garland you should also complain about Willis.

iemanja

(53,031 posts)
11. Not by DOJ
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 07:07 PM
Jan 2023

That's why Garland appointed Jack Smith, to take over the investigation intro Trump. You're referring to investigations into the lower -level Jan 6 conspirators, which is not what people have been critical of. This is not a "Garland-Smith" investigation. Garland passed it on to Smith.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
4. Some of us just apply a broad skepticism that the Mango Malefactor will be
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 10:27 AM
Jan 2023

held accountable at any level. But it looks like you have found another way to chide us.

gab13by13

(21,319 posts)
6. The ranks of the wait and see crowd are dwindling.
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 10:41 AM
Jan 2023

Even Barbara McQuade has left the ranks, and Ari Melber.

iemanja

(53,031 posts)
9. Garland already relinquished responsibility
Thu Jan 5, 2023, 11:37 AM
Jan 2023

Has that point not sunk in? He handed this off to the Special Prosecutor to delay making a decision. Fanni Willis hasn't done that.

Seems to me the real question is why some on DU are so desperate to pretend DOJ is a savior, despite what is evident in front of our eyes. Garland no longer has control over the day-to-day operations of this case. He isn't going to prosecute Trump unless he gets a recommendation from Smith, and even then he might not. Garland's avoiding making a decision that he will only have to make down the road anyway.

I think there is a certain kind of person that can't accept that Democrats, or in Garland's case anyone appointed by a Democrat, might be fallible.

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