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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat was Santos thinking?!
Really, did he think all of his lies would go unchallenged?
Is he so deluded he believes his BS?
In this age where we find out about every wart and wrinkle of everyone one from the British royals to Hollywood celebrities to national politicians, did Lyin George really believe hed get away with his fantasies?
If so, hes really stupid.
For years, I lived in the NY-03 district. I voted repeatedly for Santos predecessor, Tom Suozzi, for mayor of Glen Cove, Nassau County Executive and for Congress. Even Republicans knew who and what Tom Supzzi was and what he stood for. Santos is almost as big an election turnabout as going from President Obama to Trump. It makes my head spun!
enough
(13,237 posts)PJMcK
(21,922 posts)yardwork
(61,420 posts)So far, Santos's grift is working very well for him.
randr
(12,408 posts)He was right
this is the out take ...
liberal N proud
(60,302 posts)dem4decades
(11,244 posts)Maine Abu El Banat
(3,479 posts)Never heard of opposition research.
PJMcK
(21,922 posts)Seems odd in retrospect, especially since a local paper highlighted inconsistencies in Santos background. I wouldve expected Robert Zimmermans staff to have picked up on those stories. Thats what happens when a campaign only reads the bigger NY papers.
I expect Santos will eventually resign and there will be a special election that will be fierce!
edisdead
(1,882 posts)Look at the craziness in that party now. Why would he resign? And will the party remove him? Doubtful.
nini
(16,670 posts)Hell survive because theyll use him to help their cause then kick him to the curb. Hell vote exactly the way they tell him to do etc. theyve got a puppet for 2 years at least.
doc03
(35,151 posts)their bullshit themselves.
Solomon
(12,305 posts)mn9driver
(4,412 posts)Looks like mental illness to me.
FalloutShelter
(11,750 posts)They cant help themselves. He is a fabulist.
Theyve always been out there in the arts and the business world
only recently they have penetrated politics.
The founding fathers never took into account a total lack of honor. Honor was paramount in their century.
Today infamy and fame are interchangeable.
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)Side story: We sold everything to retire in Costa Rica.
At the auction we put up our barely used lawn tractor we bought for $2700 for bid.
We hoped for $1800. As the bidding went over the $2700, we thought why wouldnt someone check in line? The bids kept going up and up until it sold for $3900.
Friends said the guy must be crazy to bid $3900. But my thought was what about the guy that bid $3800. At least two people got caught up in it.
Scratch your head and wonder WTH?
Marius25
(3,213 posts)So why wouldn't he do it too?
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)Santos wanted to get in on the action
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)He can talk his way out of everything.
And has always gotten away with all of his lies and scams.
Quakerfriend
(5,417 posts)question, Why did oligarch Viktor Vekselbergs money man give you $$$ ????
Are you working with the Russians??
Phoenix61
(16,954 posts)Add that there is little to no chance of being fired. Best scam ever.
padah513
(2,483 posts)He tried to be everything for everybody, Jewish, Hispanic, part black, part of the LGBTQ community, grandson of a Holocaust survivor, etc., etc., etc., all for that big payday with bennies, and he succeeded. Best scam ever is right.
dembotoz
(16,740 posts)media attention will die down as we focus on the next shiny thing.
I would not count him out for re election.
dalton99a
(81,091 posts)All paid for by federal taxpayers
leftyladyfrommo
(18,816 posts)They make up their stories as they go along abd if they get caught they just come up with another story. I don't think they really consider long term consequences.
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,816 posts)He married her because he needed someone to sign fo his student loans. Everything about him turned out to be a lie. He told everyone his whole family was dead because that made people sympathetic and it kept people from checking up on his stories.
He dumped her as soon as he got what he wanted. But it didn't work. Somehow the courts determined that the marriage was fraud and she didn't get stuck with his $50, 000 in student loans. She's married to a really nice guy now.
His thinking was just so strange.
malaise
(267,846 posts)My jaw dropped to the floor - there are sociopaths everywhere -this woman was colder than ice.
https://nypost.com/2022/11/19/former-pro-boxer-ramon-sosa-faked-his-own-murder-after-wife-hired-hitman-documentary/
https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/woodlands/crime-courts/article/Ex-boxer-says-he-never-saw-wife-s-murder-for-hire-6408821.php
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)They are entitled, smarter than everyone else.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,816 posts)I met him once. He was very charming.
Irish_Dem
(45,660 posts)Handsome, charming, the whole nine yards.
Yikes on meeting Santos.
spanone
(135,637 posts)Fucked Up.
ananda
(28,783 posts)So....
dalton99a
(81,091 posts)and without showing tax returns
malaise
(267,846 posts)He is a total and complete fraud who is owned by Bannon and the MAGA (read Project Fascisms) financiers.
peggysue2
(10,811 posts)Because so far in his life, he's been right--fictionalizing his life story, kiting checks, embezzling funds, etc. Why should anything change? He chose the perfect political climate in which to thrive with the perfect political organization as cover, the Republican Party.
Just watched the Bernie Madoff docudrama on Netflix.
Bernie Madoff thought of himself as a 'good guy'. He, too, thought he could get away with it. Until 40 years later when he couldn't. Had the economic meltdown in 2007-08 not occurred, Madoff might have escaped a deep investigation. But those losses across the board were so great, not even a Bernie Madoff could cover them.
Interesting psych evaluation after Madoff was jailed: Narcissistic sociopath.
I suspect Santos falls into the same category. As does Trump.
Birds of a feather.
Interesting times, as they say!
haele
(12,582 posts)He's just enough of a mid-level grifter he has to occasionally worry about getting caught, but stupid enough that after seeing what TFG managed to pull off, he apparently thinks he can pull off the same.
I doubt if he weren't Russian Mob-adjacent, he would have been able to get as far as he did.
Haele