I gotta say---in threads discussing the differences between President Biden and the popular-vote-

[Atticus]

losing twice-impeached one-term White House occupant Trump in how each dealt with classified documents, the number of posters who say or imply that "they both took classified documents---treat 'em the same!" is pretty damn disgusting.

There are enough of THEM giving Trump the benefit of the doubt and refusing to do so for Joe Biden.

Sure, the documents found in the places under Joe's control were not properly handled.

Sure, it causes political difficulties we don't need

But, to say anything that in any small way equates how Joe handled the documents and the way Trump did is not just ludicrous, it is Trump-coddling and we should not ever do that or abide it.

[PortTack]

1. It is disgusting! Especially in the light of long established law

The espionage act considers willfulness and intent in determining criminality. Who willfully took documents with intent on keeping them…AND WHO DIDN’T??!!

Stop with this is the same…NO IT ISN’T!

[Walleye]

2. Hear! Hear! Leave the Biden bashing to the Republicans

[Cha]

3. "..treat them the same.."?! That's

Stupid. And, Ludicrous.

[tblue37]

4. Check out this cartoon that demonstrates the difference:

https://democraticunderground.com/100217581836

[stopdiggin]

5. sorry. but that's just so much BS.

A criticism of Joe Biden (in this case completely deserved) is not the equivalent of 'coddling' or giving a pass to Trump. And in fact, one of the huge disappointments regarding this fiasco, is that is has succeeded in such large part in so thoroughly muddying the waters on the truly egregious case that is Trump. Insisting (at high decibel) that there are simply no similarities between the two - is just plain disingenuous. Clearly, at some level there are. And the people calling a spade a spade are not the problem here. No matter how high the choler or rhetoric leveled against them. Joe Biden is the one shooting himself in the foot (repeatedly) - not those asking questions or expressing disappointment.

Physician heal thyself.

[Atticus]

6. What a crock! Did you even read the OP? It did NOT equate mere "criticism" with "coddling".

It did NOT "insist" that there were "no similarities". And, in a truly amazing example of projection,you call me "disingenuous".

Wow.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Thank you!!!!! Lots of inexplicable conflating of subjects here to

the point that people won't even acknowledge the obvious. So weird, has even gotten to the point where people are complaining about MSNBC for even mentioning.

[stopdiggin]

8. unfortunately. the 'head in the sand' approach

or being completely mute on the topic, is the only behavior that will satisfy the 'standard' for some. I'm not buying it.

Even Biden's strongest allies are visibly dismayed at the turn of events. And all the pretending that it isn't out there - or doesn't have relevance to both cases - is just spitting into the wind.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. I wonder if part of it is all the statements that were made

when we all thought it was just trump who had classified docs in his possession.

Hard to come back from saying something is sacred and then having to admit it might not have been so sacred. So easier to ignore that? And of course, I am just referring to the mere possession.

[Atticus]

10. No snarky response to #6 above? nt

[stopdiggin]

11. is one necessary? -(nt)-

[Atticus]

15. Clearly, a question for readers to answer. nt

[Sympthsical]

13. Just wanted to pop in

And cheer the use of "choler" in a sentence. Unexpectedly encountering vocab words you almost never see in daily discourse is one of my favorite things on the internet. Kind of made my morning.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Oops. Durbin

Biden should be “embarrassed by the situation,” said Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, adding that the president had ceded the moral high ground on an issue that has already entangled former President Donald Trump. Special counsels appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland are investigating both cases.

Source: AP

[treestar]

14. Dubin's office should be checked

And no the moral high ground is not ceded. Biden handled it properly.

Check all the Senators' and all former Presidents and VPs and bet it can happen easily. It's not as if the public is getting them.

TFG took them on purpose or he would not have to have been "raided."

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Not the point.

[gratuitous]

17. President Biden and the former guy have been treated the same

But, while President Biden has cooperated with the Department of Justice in its inquiry, the former guy chose to fight them at every turn, so much so that the FBI had no choice but to go to the extraordinary measure of securing a search warrant for Mar-a-Lago.

If the former guy had simply cooperated with the authorities, he wouldn't be in the fix he's in now.