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When will we stand up against this constant violent hate speech? (Original Post) Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 OP
when the rapture comes we will be rid of these3 people nt msongs Feb 2023 #1
These people are far more likely to go to hell, so they won't be raptured Marius25 Feb 2023 #10
Never Quanco Feb 2023 #2
You can start today if you want Kaleva Feb 2023 #3
I've stood up to it my whole life. Thanks Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #4
Then why are you asking when you will start standing up? Kaleva Feb 2023 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Dum Aloo Feb 2023 #5
The fact that he's still on the air says it all. Boomerproud Feb 2023 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #7
I don't want to write a long post right now... don't have the time. WarGamer Feb 2023 #8
Thanks CM. I had hoped that our justice system might have held the former guys accountable. Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #11
Involving Hillary's name for your violent fantasies... old as dirt Feb 2023 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #16
You're the one here calling for violence. old as dirt Feb 2023 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #18
Hillary has not called for a civil war. old as dirt Feb 2023 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #20
Yes you did, and you did it in HRC's name. old as dirt Feb 2023 #21
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Wow, I can only imagine what nonsense this person posted. tritsofme Feb 2023 #24
The time seems to be coming for an American reckoning. Who will step up? sarisataka Feb 2023 #15
I still say I see no hope for any reconciliation to happen inside this country. slightlv Feb 2023 #12
Your Utopia is not that disimilar to mine. It has kept me going since the 1960's. It's who we are Evolve Dammit Feb 2023 #23

Kaleva

(36,235 posts)
13. Then why are you asking when you will start standing up?
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 09:20 AM
Feb 2023

You clearly included yourself in the group that needs to start standing up.

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WarGamer

(12,305 posts)
8. I don't want to write a long post right now... don't have the time.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 09:28 PM
Feb 2023

But it was on the ACLU website and basically said that SOME on the political Left have basically turned it's back on the progressives of 40, 50 years ago...

Authoritarianism is bad no matter if it's my side or their side.

Don't forget, the ACLU FOUGHT so real neo-nazis (not a group of anti-vaxxers) could march in Skokie peacefully.

I'm sure that Nazis under Hitler and Communists under Stalin thought their system was right and the other was terrible

Maybe all authoritarians suck and humankind needs to embrace diversity of thought, opinion and a healthy dose of "mind your own business"....

Lastly...

If you somehow manage to make some form of political "voice" illegal or socially unacceptable (like the Chinese Communists Social Media Score) then you've opened the door for a group of authoritarians to come along and silence YOU and ME.

https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/defending-speech-we-hate

Evolve Dammit

(16,689 posts)
9. Thanks CM. I had hoped that our justice system might have held the former guys accountable.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 09:32 PM
Feb 2023

In absence of that , I agree we heading for dark times. I lost almost all my extended family to Covid, Faux News, and, other medical problems. But I will defend to the end, all citizens of this country who are victimized, demonized and attacked by the fascist right. And I will support any candidate who cares about the same. Thanks for the in-depth comments

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old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
14. Involving Hillary's name for your violent fantasies...
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:42 PM
Feb 2023

... on a Democratic website is disgusting on the extreme.

Your violent plans will not have my support, any more than they have Hillary's support.

The Beatles - Revolution

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old as dirt

(1,972 posts)
17. You're the one here calling for violence.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:58 PM
Feb 2023
You want violence?


And you are doing it in the name of HRC and the Democratic Party.

If you claim that HRC supports your call for a civil war, then it is up to you to prove the lie, not up to me to disprove it.

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tritsofme

(17,363 posts)
24. Wow, I can only imagine what nonsense this person posted.
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 04:33 PM
Feb 2023

Unfortunately, whatever it was, wouldn’t at all surprise me.

sarisataka

(18,465 posts)
15. The time seems to be coming for an American reckoning. Who will step up?
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 12:45 PM
Feb 2023

Please feel free to take the lead and show us how it's done.

Unless this is just a "let's you and him fight" rant...

slightlv

(2,764 posts)
12. I still say I see no hope for any reconciliation to happen inside this country.
Mon Feb 6, 2023, 10:01 PM
Feb 2023

You are right... we are seeing authoritarians on the left as well as the right. But isn't that the way the pendulum always swings? If it goes too far right, it has too swing back far left before it can settle into a peaceful and sedate middle. I have always been a pacifist. But I admit the years since Rump has affected even me. I'm so tired of being the oppressed, I would truly like to do a little oppressing of my own to the other side... if for no other reason, than for them to perhaps see that oppression is wrong, no matter who's doing it or for what reason.

These are my own "sins" I'll have to atone for. Do I feel bad because I could not always rise above the base level? I used to; but no longer. We can only fight our own human nature for so long.

Since the days of my teenage youth, I've looked forward to a progressive future. I was excited about the new inventions we could come up with, the places we would go, the worlds upon which we would walk. Today, I figure wherever Man steps foot, he'll foul it post haste. I just turned 67 this past Saturday. And I'll tell you a secret. Even tho there are times when I'm frustrated and ashamed of myself and my thoughts about the RW in this country, I -still- would like to see a day when progressive ideals are offered and attempted. Where people are nice to each other once again. And maybe... just maybe... there are a hell of a lot less guns out in the wild. I'd like to see a glimpse of that kind of Utopia before I die. But for now, I spend a lot of time worrying how in the hell we're going to live if they take away Social Security. You get to this age after working like a dog all your life, and there are just things you shouldn't have to worry about anymore. That's part of my Utopia. And yes, I realize Utopia never turns out like what you'd thought it be. But I would like to leave a better world for my grandsons to inherit.

Evolve Dammit

(16,689 posts)
23. Your Utopia is not that disimilar to mine. It has kept me going since the 1960's. It's who we are
Tue Feb 7, 2023, 04:30 PM
Feb 2023

and what we believe in and wish for. I am proud of that and saw a lot of positive things happening in the post-Vietnam era. But yeah, it seems improbable anymore. I had no idea how many millions either don't care about anyone or even take it to the malicious extreme, wishing others dead. As Jesse J. once said: "Keep hope alive."

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