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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI went viral today!
Channel 7 in Los Angeles, (my old TV station), posted my photo of the Hollywood Sign with the snow covered mountains in Los Angeles. At last count it has seventy thousand hits and sixteen thousand shares. Of course, I forgot to put my name on it.
As I often do, I grabbed a camera while I was leaving to walk the dog. This was the view about four blocks from home.
Here is the link to ABC7's Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=583509857250986&set=a.334066472195327
burrowowl
(17,638 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(7,896 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Celerity
(43,299 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)The telephoto lenses "compresses" the distance and makes the distant mountains appear much closer.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)It said the pic was taken from Culver City.
cheers
Cel
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)I shot this on the Sawtelle Avenue bridge over Ballona Creek.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)Lincoln, right north of Ballona Creek (the wetlands were between the creek and us, with Culver Blvd bisecting it) and across the street from Cedars-Sinai in the other direction. I so miss that whole area, Mar Vista, Palms, Culver City, Playa Vista and Playa Del Rey, Venice (only to a point with Venice Beach, lol, we preferred Dockweiler Beach, so much less crowded), etc.
Small world.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)I've ridden my bike through there many times.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)was a semi carbon copy of this style:
rubbersole
(6,684 posts)Celerity
(43,299 posts)Are you saying there is a probability that I grew up in a slum? Perhaps I am reading too much into it.
In the positive side, I also am certain that the comment would not have been made if we were in a face to face situation, as, for the record, I am a mixed race, part black female. I have a white Swedish father (my wife and I have lived in Stockholm now for several years), and a Bajan, (i.e. from Barbados) multiracial mum. Of course, unless you are familiar with my background (which I have shared on DU many times, but you only joined DU in mid 2022, so may not have encountered me elaborating on it before) you would not know that, so I am sure there was no intended bias.
I grew up in South Kensington, London, btw, which, I am happy to report, does not have any 'Projects' aka, in British parlance, council estates (social housing) that are often situated in problematic, vulnerable areas. A notable exception, and somewhat near to my area of west London would be Churchill Gardens in Pimlico (Pimlico is directly to the southeast of Belgravia, one of the most expensive neighbourhoods on the planet), but that area is now overall very posh (most of the Westminster area has been for centuries, it is where Buckingham Place, et al. are located), and there have been multiple (still ongoing) controversies over the estate for decades, as developers want to demolish large parts of it and turn it into extremely high end housing.
I was born in Los Angeles (I am the only US citizen in my family, my wife included), but my parents moved back to London when I was a young toddler. I had always wanted to go back and live in L.A. for a spell, and I was able to do just that whilst I read for a masters degree at uni there.
cheers,
Cel
rubbersole
(6,684 posts)I was trying to make a sarcastic joke about how lovely your house was. 'Projects' was an extremely poor choice of words, and very sorry I used it. Certainly not directed at you at all.
I enjoy your posts and comments. Smart and right on the money. I'll try and be more sensitive and less of a wise ass in the future. (If I had a nickel for every time I said that...) And I'd love to meet you someday, just to give you a h.....shake your hand. Thanks for being so nice. rs
Celerity
(43,299 posts)I hope I did not offend you either, as that was not my intent.
Those condos are great, but are now crazy overpriced (as is all of LA tbf).
Those pics also (of course, as they are from a realtor site) glam them up, and there are non fully-rehabbed units that are not so nice on the inside. The La Villa Marina development was built in the mid 1960s to 1970 or so (our unit was built in 1966 if memory serves) as a number of smaller complexes that were named for Italian cities (Villa Spezia, Villa Romano, Villa Napoli, Villa San Cipriano, etc etc, and some French cities as well, ike Villa San Tropez, Villa Toulon, etc), and some are the worse for wear.
I just am a huge fangirl of mid century modern architecture and design (deffo not so common in London or Stockholm, lol, albeit there is more in the UK than Sweden).
rubbersole
(6,684 posts)Now I'm curious about what one of those units would cost in today's market. House prices and rents here in Florida have been insane in the last few years, but nothing like California. A studio apartment in Orlando is $1,600 a month. Insurance on a house near the coast just doubled to $5,600 a year. A young family doesn't stand a chance.
Celerity
(43,299 posts)1 to 1.5 million usd or so now, depending on size and location and level of work done.
The have at least doubled in price in the last in the last 8 to 10 years, and have went up 500 to 700 plus per cent I do believe since the 1990s when my parents bought the unit (and kept as an investment after they moved back to London, they have let (rented) it out for ages) we lived in when I was born. My wife and I lived in it whilst I was going to uni there (she worked full time), and yes, we paid them rent (and paid all utilities), albeit not market value, lol, we got the fam discount.
Our HOA was super chill, but some of the complexes' HOAs in La Villa Marina are quite the little condo commandos (par for the course from all I have seen of America, including reading tales of woe on DU from some posters, although Swedish bostadsrättsförening, i.e. condo boards, can be every bit as crazy and nasty, the Swedish rental/ownership system us so complex and maddening for so many,, especially our rental system (we own here thank fuck), which is INSANE, not at ALL like the US or the UK, it is a massive weak part of the entire country's underpinnings). My cousin on mummy's side now lives in the LA unit, after she sold her Santa Monica home that she got half of in her divorce settlement (a whole other nightmare story that was, arfff).
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Sale prices about $900k. Rentals about $4,900/month.
Crazy! Who can afford that?
rubbersole
(6,684 posts)rubbersole
(6,684 posts)What a great picture! You brought a lot of smiles today! Very cool 😎.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)brer cat
(24,558 posts)Great pix.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)LoisB
(7,200 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)I had brought a bathing suit, thinking I would be close to the beach. I guess that the 2' long icicles hanging off the roof at the airport, framed with palm trees, should have been a clue of what was to come. Don't ever judge temps on palm trees, I have learned.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)of the tennis ball I brought as a play toy. My sneakers fell apart before I had a chance to buy boots. Good thing I traveled with my crazy glue in my repair travel kit. It held them together temporarily. My little dog was from San Diego and never saw snow before. I'm glad I packed doggie sweaters and I'm glad she was 7 pounds so I just carried her, tucked into the new winter jacket I had to buy too.
malaise
(268,914 posts)Congrats 😀😀
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)ShazzieB
(16,365 posts)That's an amazing pic. I'm not a bit surprised that ABC7 chose this to post, or that it went viral. Everything about it is fantastic, especially the snow-covered mountains looming over the hill with the Hollywood sign, and the palm trees silhouetted in the foreground strike a particularly dramatic note.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)yellerpup
(12,253 posts)Outstanding!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)GReedDiamond
(5,311 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)GReedDiamond
(5,311 posts)...living in places from Hollywood Blvd across the street from (the now defunct) Fredericks of Hollywood, to the Pasadena/Monrovia area of the San Gabriel Valley.
I have never seen anything like it.
It is not only viral, it will become iconic, IMO.
Duppers
(28,118 posts)You're probably right!
Phoenix61
(17,000 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)murielm99
(30,733 posts)Climate change? Nahhhhh....
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,490 posts)Thanks for sharing here!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Duppers
(28,118 posts)I agree, this shot is bound to become iconic.
Congrats, Ross.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Duppers
(28,118 posts)IcyPeas
(21,857 posts)The 2 tall palm trees against that snow and grey sky. If the Hollywood sign wasn't there you might not guess the location.
Congratulations!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)pwb
(11,261 posts)The melt will help with water issues eh?
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Our reservoirs are filling up, but we still have to worry about groundwater levels as well as the level of Lake Mead and the other Colorado River reservoirs.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,583 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)For those not from L.A., the tallest mountains are the San Gabriels, which divide the Mediterranean-climate L.A. area from the Mojave Desert on their other side, and the lower range in front of them is the Verdugos. We lived in West Hollywood long ago (still miss it!) and then near Pasadena in the sloping valley between the two ranges.
Used to be the San Gabriels were covered in white for months every winter and spring, the postcard picture with people strolling Hollywood Boulevard in sun dresses and shorts.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)You'll be interested in knowing that I shot this from the Sawtelle bridge over Ballona Creek. The palm trees are on Sepulveda Boulevard.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)have a number of old friends there who'll be very familiar with the location. One couple probably still bikes Ballona Creek. I'm sending them a link to the picture.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to the coast, not farther. A bit longer drive up to the snow. Oh, well.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Life too short to be among Magat types!!!!
babylonsister
(171,056 posts)on my FB page before I saw it here; only the best make it there. Historic!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)It's nice to hear that you saw it on Facebook.
electric_blue68
(14,867 posts)I "blinked" though; thinking is that snow on those mountains? 😄
I guess because of the palm trees in front plus being LA re Hollywood sign. But why wouldn't tall mountains have snow esp this time of year.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)The San Gabriels are much taller.
electric_blue68
(14,867 posts)diva77
(7,639 posts)Your photo is stunning! Thanks for posting
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Cha
(297,137 posts)Amazing photo, GOG!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Cha
(297,137 posts)meaning for me and my family..
We all had our photo taken with it in the Background after my Sister's memorial in January 2019.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Cha
(297,137 posts)Mahalo! I plan to link it to my other sisters so they can see it, too.. and her son.
ecstatic
(32,681 posts)It's nearly 80 in Atlanta, but snowing in LA?
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)We still need more, but our situation has improved significantly.
JudyM
(29,225 posts)Really captures the spirit of the snow event.
Theyve credited you now, BTW, just under the text of their post. Congrats!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,161 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Fla Dem
(23,649 posts)I hope you do get credit. Can you edit it on Face Book to add your name? A beautiful photo of such a rare occurrence will be used many times for different things over the years..
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)Isn't it possible that if someone uses your photo, either you have to agree to allow it being used for free, giving them a signed release, or get paid??????? And regardless, you have to be given credit below the photograph.??????
Seems to me that photo will become an iconic photo and should be worth some money.
And if the photographer doesn't challenge the publisher, then that sets a precedent and anyone can use it for free??????????
I have no idea, and have zero legal knowledge.
Just wondering
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)However, I don't think any of that is true.
I usually put my name on my photos, but I never imagined this one would be so popular. However, I normally put it at the bottom of the frame where it is easily cropped out anyway.
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)you should always request they at least give you a credit in the caption on the Photo............
Decades ago, I sent a picture to the Denver Post. They had me sign a release before they would even use it.
I also worked for a fair sized Corporation decades ago. A young MBA took a picture he saw, and used it in an advertisement for our corporation...........
A week later, after the ad ran in the paper, our CEO received a bill for a thousand dollars for the "one time use of the photograph," from the photographer. The CEO told accounting to issue a check immediately, and he also wrote a hand written letter to the photographer apologizing for using his photo. He told me that he was glad the guy didn't bill us ten grand, because he would be obligated to pay it. The CEO told me that if it went to court it would be a slam dunk legally for the Photographer........
Like I said, I am not an attorney, and only have these similar experiences.......
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)In this case, there is a record of the TV station publishing the photo on Facebook. I worked at that station for thirty one years, so I doubt that I would have much trouble getting them to back me up if I needed them.
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I'll be more careful in the future. I certainly knew better.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)... however the post that went viral was on the TV station's Facebook page. The damage is done, there probably isn't much I can do about it at this point.
Fla Dem
(23,649 posts)Your photo was beautiful, seen by many and appreciated by all. 👏👏👏👏👏
wendyb-NC
(3,321 posts)Great photo of the snowfall on the mountains, a backdrop for palm trees. Cool that your pic went viral.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)MLAA
(17,277 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)FakeNoose
(32,628 posts)I've never seen that tower before. Is it new?
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)It's been there for many years. TV stations also used it for microwave relays for live news remotes.
mcar
(42,300 posts)Great photo. That really is an amazing sight.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Lulu KC
(2,565 posts)Wish I could see it in person!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Thanks!
George McGovern
(5,420 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Much appreciated!
calimary
(81,210 posts)You could make postcards out of it, and sell them in packs of 10 or 12.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)I'll be uploading it to my website, ross-kestin.pixels.com.
calimary
(81,210 posts)a set of six (or a dozen?) postcards would be wonderful to give as gifts. I originally thought: ooooooh, notecards! The kind with no inscriptions on the inside. But that would require envelopes to go with the notecards and it might be a little bit of a hassle.
Heck, you could contact the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce and let them know what you have. Its such a gorgeous photo - if I worked at the Chamber, I think Id want some! If they were to like it well enough, you might really have something there! How would it look, blown up to poster-size? Or a framed 8x10? T-shirts? Coffee cups? Coasters? Place mats? Screen savers? Book and notebook covers? Or blown up to the size of an actual wall cover? Ive seen that with scenic wallpaper of the redwoods. This shot would work, too.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Congrats and thanks for sharing!
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,110 posts)I've hoped for clear skies. Maybe I haven't been up early enough. Sunday was spectacular. And your photo totally captures that.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)I think it was Sunday.
Bluethroughu
(5,152 posts)Thanks for sharing.
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)area51
(11,905 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)a gorgeous picture and have it somehow become open stock that anyone can use at whim?
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)As I understand it, I own the photo whether I copyright it or not. Unfortunately, people steal photos all the time and get away with it. Not too many people pay the consequences for this particular theft of intellectual properties. I almost always put my name on my pics, but even that is no guarantee they won't be stolen. In this case, I never thought this pic would be so popular. The damage is probably done.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)HAB911
(8,880 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)IcyPeas
(21,857 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)I should probably subscribe to Twitter now.
I get a kick out of the few people who are convinced it's fake. It's not.
orleans
(34,049 posts)i saw the picture and told her it was taken by someone on du
so i went looking for this thread (i saw it the other day) and messaged her the link
thought you'd get a bit of a kick out of it.
Link to tweet
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)This is my fifteen minutes of fame.
I think I have to start using Twitter, even though I hate Elon Musk!
orleans
(34,049 posts)political folks that i like.
my daughter and i use it for messaging each other since i don't text & she isn't on fb so it's a handy format for us
IcyPeas
(21,857 posts)this photo is sure making the rounds.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217711067
Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)That's great.