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tabatha

(18,795 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:48 PM Jan 2012

Malta denies claims by former US Congresswoman


The Government of Malta this evening categorically denied claims being made by former US Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney that "12,000 U.S. troops (are) stationed in Malta and they are about to make their descent into Libya".

Ms McKinney made these statements on her public blog http://allthingscynthiamckinney.posterous.com.

"The allegations are completely false," the government said in a statement.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120116/local/malta-denies-claims-by-former-us.402629
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Malta denies claims by former US Congresswoman (Original Post) tabatha Jan 2012 OP
With friends like this who needs enemies? Obama seems to get it from both parties. What an idiot. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #1
She's a Green, now, thank Jeebus. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #4
Malta! Really? CTyankee Jan 2012 #2
I'm with ya. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #13
Are these the 12k troops who killed 5k civilians in NOLA, and buried the msanthrope Jan 2012 #3
Nope, I had to look at a map though nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #5
McKinney is a lunatic. TheWraith Jan 2012 #6
Used to be popular??? Oh, she's still got her supporters on DU. msanthrope Jan 2012 #8
Once again McKinney proves her showing in the Encyclopedia of Loons... Archae Jan 2012 #7
That was a legendary thread, my friend. msanthrope Jan 2012 #9
Is this a joke??? n/t greytdemocrat Jan 2012 #10
It can be both a joke and a serious claim. Igel Jan 2012 #11
Yes, it can be both. Archae Jan 2012 #12
She needs mental help. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #14
it appears not to be true, but... Enrique Jan 2012 #15
I'm no military historian, for sure. But I do know that Malta was a strategic outpost for CTyankee Jan 2012 #16
Lepanto was over in Greece, but Malta has a huge military history. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #19
Fabulous history in WW2!. It shows how strategic these islands can be in even huge wars! CTyankee Jan 2012 #20
I like and have often defended McKinney- however she is now listening to the propaganda JCMach1 Jan 2012 #17
Yes, I certainly defended McKinney in the past. tabatha Jan 2012 #18

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
2. Malta! Really?
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:02 PM
Jan 2012

Such a tiny island in the Mediterranean. What is the purpose?

I would love to go there to see Caravaggio's paintings and to visit the archeological sites.

But really...Malta...?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
3. Are these the 12k troops who killed 5k civilians in NOLA, and buried the
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:05 PM
Jan 2012

bodies in the swamps????

Or are these the 12k troops that helped the CIA assassinate Tupac Shakur?

So much tinfoil, so little time.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
6. McKinney is a lunatic.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:15 PM
Jan 2012

Unfortunately, she used to be very popular on the left with the same type of people who now talk up Ron Paul, showing that they haven't learned a damned thing.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
8. Used to be popular??? Oh, she's still got her supporters on DU.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jan 2012

If you google my name on this site, 'tupac' and 'mckinney' you will see a thread from a month ago--yes, a month ago, supporting her.

Archae

(46,314 posts)
7. Once again McKinney proves her showing in the Encyclopedia of Loons...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 08:16 PM
Jan 2012
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2011/11/266-cynthia-mckinney.html

And the website and I were slammed by the "McKinney can do no wrong" fan club for pointing this out.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
11. It can be both a joke and a serious claim.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:03 PM
Jan 2012

Let's not let a little utter absurdity get in the way of recognizing reality.

Many things that actually do exist are exquisitely absurd. It pays to be able to step back from one's beliefs and identity to laugh at them when they occur. (Otherwise we risk joining them.)

Archae

(46,314 posts)
12. Yes, it can be both.
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 09:18 PM
Jan 2012

HOWEVER...

If someone makes a serious claim but has zilch when it comes to evidence, (hello, Iraq WMD?) it becomes a joke.
In the case of the "Iraq WMD," a sick joke by Cheney and his cronies.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
15. it appears not to be true, but...
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jan 2012

but there's nothing inherently crazy about the idea of a U.S. military base in Malta. People ask, why Malta? Well, it's very close to Libya for one thing.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
16. I'm no military historian, for sure. But I do know that Malta was a strategic outpost for
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:36 AM
Jan 2012

Europe back in the 16th century against the Turks. The Knights of Malta were a kind of bulwark against a Turkish invasion of the European mainland. Google "battle of Lepanto." Bloody awful that was!

Napoleon sent the Knights of Malta packing, back to Rome, once he took the island (and pretty much the rest of Europe) over. I don't know much about what happened later but it looks like an ethnically interesting place.

Malta is interesting for its archeology as well as its European history. Lots of paleolithic stuff there. Caravaggio, in flight from Rome for committing murder, fled there from Sicily and painted one of his masterpieces, The Beheading of John the Baptist, for the Cathedral in Valetta, its capital city, where it can be seen today.

Fascinating history (but I only know some of it cuz I did an Independent Study in grad school on Caravaggio...).

Saving Hawaii

(441 posts)
19. Lepanto was over in Greece, but Malta has a huge military history.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 05:03 PM
Jan 2012

Two huge sieges took place there: the first the Knights of Malta vs the Turks and the second the British vs the Nazis.

The siege in 1560 was probably one of the nastiest battles in military history. Huge losses for both sides, plenty of massacres. After the Turks took Fort St. Elmo and decapitated everybody they captured and floated their bodies in the harbor on crucifixes, the Knights responded by beheading their prisoners and using the heads as cannonballs. Pretty bloody warfare. It was an impressive defense though. 8000 defenders (maybe 1000 knights, the rest just locals who took up arms) vs 30-40k Turkish soldiers. I don't think either side really expected the Turks to lose.

In World War 2 the British held the island and were using it as a base for the RAF and Royal Navy to sink Italian and German troop and supply ships going to north Africa. They amassed a huge air force and tried to bomb the island into submission in preparation for an amphibious landing, but the defenders managed to fend them off and the landing was never tried. The island played a major role in breaking the Axis offensive in North Africa.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
20. Fabulous history in WW2!. It shows how strategic these islands can be in even huge wars!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:23 PM
Jan 2012

Is your guess that the Allies were counting on their own ability to fend off attacks in Southern Italy from the Germans or that it was really about North Africa (the Magreb?)

JCMach1

(27,555 posts)
17. I like and have often defended McKinney- however she is now listening to the propaganda
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:59 AM
Jan 2012

of Qadaffi dead-enders, the Libyan Jahamiriya... read her blog post and you will see that is the source of her info.

Here is the only current extra ship, or troop presence in Malta over the last couple of weeks: http://maltaspotting.blogspot.com/2012/01/us-navy-uss-whidbey-island-in-valletta.html


Ummm doesn't look like 12,000.

Cynthia, please stick to what you know...

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
18. Yes, I certainly defended McKinney in the past.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jan 2012

But when she bought Gaddafi's BS and did not even talk to the other side, she lost my respect.

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