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Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 11:59 AM Mar 2023

DeSantis' woke war is unpopular in Florida

But the poll offers warning signs about those proposals, showing they remain broadly unpopular among the same voters that delivered a sweeping landslide for Republicans last fall.

A Florida GOP plan to ban abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, a much stricter rule than the state’s current 15 weeks, is opposed by 75% of voters, compared to just 22% who back it.

DeSantis’s move to allow unfettered concealed carry of guns is even more unpopular, with just 21% supporting it.

Powerful majorities of Sunshine State voters in the poll also support a constitutional amendment to legalize recreational use of marijuana and oppose DeSantis’s plans to halt efforts to increase diversity in public colleges and restrict discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.


“Many voters we spoke to are not so thrilled about some of DeSantis’s most recent proposals in his war on ‘woke’ culture,” Binder said.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-desantis-trump-florida-republican-president-2024-abortion-guns-20230309-cds6uy76zreofh66lg52s3syim-story.html

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DeSantis' woke war is unpopular in Florida (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2023 OP
In DeSantis' Florida, what the people think is irrelevant. Chainfire Mar 2023 #1
If he wins the gop nomination, he will simply deny the woke war ever happened Demovictory9 Mar 2023 #4
"Go back to SLEEP. You can trust us (heh, heh)." - G.O.P. Achilleaze Mar 2023 #2
What did Floridians think would happen? Mz Pip Mar 2023 #3
If you compare his first and second terms you will see two different men. Chainfire Mar 2023 #7
No one really knew what he was planning to do, nor how he was planning to do it. Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #10
Sometimes when a law bites Your ass or someone you love, that's when it dawns on you. CTyankee Mar 2023 #15
Geez it's almost like elections have consequences Takket Mar 2023 #5
But do they VOTE that way? Happy Hoosier Mar 2023 #6
I've said it before. Aristus Mar 2023 #8
So goddammed frustrating. Happy Hoosier Mar 2023 #11
I have yet to meet one of these people. AllyCat Mar 2023 #12
That's kinda what I mean... Happy Hoosier Mar 2023 #14
That's why they vote republican. blueinredohio Mar 2023 #19
Precisely why I've referred to right wing propaganda as a drug. Initech Mar 2023 #27
I'm convinced that HUGE numbers of liberal, eligible voters here just don't vote. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2023 #13
Vote by mail is very easy here in Florida Jose Garcia Mar 2023 #16
I know. I live here. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2023 #22
Told ya. Florida voters were not aware of De Santis' platform. Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #9
Is that a shock though? In It to Win It Mar 2023 #18
No surprise at all. Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #20
And yet those polls also show Trump and DeSantis beating Biden in Florida Marius25 Mar 2023 #17
They are convinced voting for a democrat Tree Lady Mar 2023 #29
Florida is now ranked the least affordable state in America Marius25 Mar 2023 #30
It's unpopular and Fox News ruins everything they touch. Initech Mar 2023 #21
Bottom line they want to pay zip in taxes GreenWave Mar 2023 #23
But DeSatan says that everyone in FL agrees with him. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2023 #24
Well, what are you going to do about it now that you do know? world wide wally Mar 2023 #25
Remove the Republican or Democrat label from most issues, and the liberal side usually wins. Midnight Writer Mar 2023 #26
DeSantis doesn't care about Florida. It's just his stepping stone to DC ZonkerHarris Mar 2023 #28
I love the legal definition of woke LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #31

Chainfire

(17,526 posts)
1. In DeSantis' Florida, what the people think is irrelevant.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:04 PM
Mar 2023

He has the power stitched up tight controlling the executive, legislative and courts. His perceived enemies have been eliminated from positions of power. He is showing the rest of America that he knows how to handle power. Pay attention.

Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
4. If he wins the gop nomination, he will simply deny the woke war ever happened
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:09 PM
Mar 2023

To win purple states..and gop.voters will allow him to lie

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. "Go back to SLEEP. You can trust us (heh, heh)." - G.O.P.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:05 PM
Mar 2023

"Sleep, sleep, sleep, my little MAGA morons. NO NO on the WOKEY WOKEY. We would never (hee, hee) impose Oligarch-Style XristoFascism on you pathetic loser proles, would we? Smirk, smirk.

"Inhale the Musk. Then sleep, sleep, sleep..."

- G.O.P., Inc. & Their Skankster Anti-American Black-op Kremlin Kronies

Mz Pip

(27,435 posts)
3. What did Floridians think would happen?
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:06 PM
Mar 2023

DeSantis won by a lot. He believes he has a mandate to do what he wants.

Now they’re paying attention? I’m trying to muster up some sympathy for Florida Republicans and for the Democrats that crossed over. It’s not happening.

Chainfire

(17,526 posts)
7. If you compare his first and second terms you will see two different men.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:13 PM
Mar 2023

He no longer faces reelection as governor, so the real DeSatan has emerged. I can guarantee you that this Floridian was never fooled by the man. I always thought that he was cut from the same cloth as Dick Scott, but I was wrong, he is worse than I imagined.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
15. Sometimes when a law bites Your ass or someone you love, that's when it dawns on you.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:50 PM
Mar 2023

Sometimes it's too late and the damage has been done. I hope not in his case. I welcome the sinner to the fold, as a preacher might say. Better late than never. Amen.

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
6. But do they VOTE that way?
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:12 PM
Mar 2023

That's my main frustration.... lots on "concern," but the assholes are still winning elections. Fuuuuuuuuck.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
8. I've said it before.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:18 PM
Mar 2023

This is exactly like that woman in Tennessee, or where the hell ever, who complained that her Republican governor and Republican legislature cut Medicaid for her state, leaving her without medical care or the medication she needed.

She was asked if she voted for the Republican candidates who all vowed to cut Medicaid. She answered yes, and when asked why, she hung her head and said: "I guess I just always vote Republican..."

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
11. So goddammed frustrating.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:21 PM
Mar 2023

The GOP sought to get voters by leveraging hate and resentment. It worked. And now they have a loyal base they can literally screw over who will still vote for them because they hate the right people.

AllyCat

(16,175 posts)
12. I have yet to meet one of these people.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:23 PM
Mar 2023

They all blame the Democrats when the republicans hurt them as promised.

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
14. That's kinda what I mean...
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:43 PM
Mar 2023

I actually ran into a dude the other day ranting about the Democrats wanting to cut SSI and Medicare. When I pointed out that Democrats wanted to preserve or even expand those programs and it was REPUBLICANS who want to cut them, he said "well, that's what the fake liberal news says."

How do you fix that?

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
19. That's why they vote republican.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:10 PM
Mar 2023

They think none of the bad stuff will happen to them. Only democrats. They have to be hit over the head before they wake up. I live in a town full of them.

Initech

(100,060 posts)
27. Precisely why I've referred to right wing propaganda as a drug.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:05 PM
Mar 2023

It's some powerful shit and it's warped more minds than crack and heroin combined, and it keeps them addicted and constantly looking for their next fix. What's it going to take for people to wake the fuck up and realize that they're being lied to 24 hours a day through multiple streams?

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
13. I'm convinced that HUGE numbers of liberal, eligible voters here just don't vote.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:29 PM
Mar 2023

And I think they are largely the younger people (40 and younger) that work the enormous service industry in this state, from food servers to the Disney and other theme park employees to the entirety of the tourism industry.

They can't afford to take a day off to go vote or they are just disengaged. That's certainly not unique to Florida, but it does have a massive number of younger people working jobs that are paycheck to paycheck.

The retirees are the ones who have nothing better to do on election day, so that's why DeathSentence won by such a large margin last time. That and the fact that Crist was a shitty candidate.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
22. I know. I live here.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:21 PM
Mar 2023

I also used the word "Disengaged".

Again, it's purely an opinion, based on scant, anecdotal evidence.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
9. Told ya. Florida voters were not aware of De Santis' platform.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:19 PM
Mar 2023

De Santis sucker punched his own supporters and the swing voters.

In It to Win It

(8,231 posts)
18. Is that a shock though?
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:01 PM
Mar 2023

If enough people actually paid attention to what these a-holes in Tallahassee do, I have no doubt more people would turn out for Democratic candidates. Instead, we're stuck in a situation where only roughly half the state actually votes.

I recall reading articles of people that didn't even know about the state's abortion ban only to show up to a clinic to find out when they actually needed one. I imagine that same scenario applies to many other issues.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
20. No surprise at all.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:14 PM
Mar 2023

Florida has a way of keeping residents in a state of anxiety. Either you're trying to find a way to stay afloat on low wages or fixed incomes or worried that someone is going to take their anger on you by pulling strings to target your children. It forces insecure people to rely on the grapevine and reinforces tribalism. Which means, that everyone gets their information through gossip.

One of the reasons I have distanced myself from the people in the community, is that I sensed the pattern. They try to introduce anxiety points to see what makes you jump. The more they get to know you, the more they know your anxiety points. And then they intentionally use it to reel you into their "safe circles."

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
17. And yet those polls also show Trump and DeSantis beating Biden in Florida
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:54 PM
Mar 2023

So those policies being unpopular is rather meaningless, since people will still vote for the fascists who are pushing them.

Tree Lady

(11,447 posts)
29. They are convinced voting for a democrat
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 04:26 PM
Mar 2023

Means paying taxes to help the poor. They love the no taxes there. And I wonder if most of the older folks living there don't care about schools or banning books because it doesn't affect them.

My very liberal neighbor is selling his house here in Oregon to move to Florida after spending the last 3 summers there. He will probably pick a bluer area because he is very outspoken politically. Him and his wife are teachers, I said how will you be able to handle that? He said he is not sure.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
30. Florida is now ranked the least affordable state in America
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 07:19 PM
Mar 2023

And the less money you have, the more you pay in taxes.

Initech

(100,060 posts)
21. It's unpopular and Fox News ruins everything they touch.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 01:14 PM
Mar 2023

And the sad thing is the idiots will keep voting for them, despite the fact that they voted for the party that continues to screw them over. Wake the fuck up! Fox News and AM radio propaganda are bad for you!

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
25. Well, what are you going to do about it now that you do know?
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 02:30 PM
Mar 2023

Vote for his handpicked candidate in the next election?

Midnight Writer

(21,738 posts)
26. Remove the Republican or Democrat label from most issues, and the liberal side usually wins.
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 03:57 PM
Mar 2023

That is why the GOP is so hellbent on labeling things as "woke" or "liberal" or "socialist".

Most voters don't take the time and effort to delve deeply into issues. They rely on shortcuts in their thinking, including simplistic slogans and labels.

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