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allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:03 AM Mar 2023

Florida bans school discussions about girls' monthly cycles until 6th grade...

The Florida GOP is on a truly stunning tear of misogyny, ignorance, homophobia and censorship, culminating in a bill that just passed the Florida House that would bar young girls from discussing menstruation, including their own menstrual periods, in school. Fifty three years since Judy Blume wrote “Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret,” some Republican legislators still seem less comfortable with puberty and sexuality than pre-teen girls (maybe they should go see the movie when it hits theaters next month).

The Florida bill states that education around sex, reproduction and sexuality cannot begin until 6th grade. On Wednesday, when Florida state Rep. Ashley Gantt, a Democrat, asked her Republican colleague who sponsored the legislation, state Rep. Stan McClain, if the bill means that girls who get their periods before sixth grade couldn’t discuss that in school, he said yes.

“So if little girls experience their menstrual cycle in fifth grade or fourth grade,” she asked, “will that prohibit conversations from them since they are in the grade lower than sixth grade?”

“It would,” McClain said,

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/21/opinions/florida-menstruation-ban-schools-filopovic/index.html

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Florida bans school discussions about girls' monthly cycles until 6th grade... (Original Post) allegorical oracle Mar 2023 OP
Can't talk about anything that makes boys feel icky Walleye Mar 2023 #1
That's as creepy as the Trump administration tracking migrant girl's periods to prevent abortions NullTuples Mar 2023 #29
That's why we call The Florida Fuhrer... appmanga Mar 2023 #42
This is so disturbing ecstatic Mar 2023 #2
How do school nurses figure into this idiocy? hlthe2b Mar 2023 #3
I'm not sure they still exist, but I bet there's a gag order Hekate Mar 2023 #40
What kind of crap is this?.............. Lovie777 Mar 2023 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Writethinker Mar 2023 #5
"Squarepants" Skittles Mar 2023 #11
This is disgusting Tree-Hugger Mar 2023 #6
No sex education means more teen pregnancies? Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #8
Exactly. It's ridiculous. And then there are no abortions allowed. Young girls are trapped. nt allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #23
Also rolling back contraception measures. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #25
Micro managing speech... 2naSalit Mar 2023 #7
More attempts to shame and humiliate females. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #9
even in the 1980s, barbtries Mar 2023 #10
This is a wedge issue for ethnic families. Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #13
this 9-year-old was a towheaded white girl. barbtries Mar 2023 #14
I understand. But the statistics might show that ethnic minorities, as a group, have a higher Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #16
Anyone of any race can start menstruating at nine. The differences between average age of menarche WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2023 #15
No it's not. Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #17
My white step sister got hers at 9. She got hers before I got mine, Crunchy Frog Mar 2023 #20
Yes, but statistically this is going to have Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #21
Wait what? edisdead Mar 2023 #34
Apparently, neither do white women. Baitball Blogger Mar 2023 #41
I grew up in a similar setting. Periods were a shameful thing. So agree with you. nt allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #24
Women are people. barbtries Mar 2023 #27
Just want to add a corrected URL EarlG Mar 2023 #12
OH thank you. Don't know how that happened... allegorical oracle Mar 2023 #26
They going to arrest a child for asking for help when she suddenly starts to bleed? Lettuce Be Mar 2023 #18
Just wait until the next school year and someone wil explain it. FSogol Mar 2023 #19
She'd probably be punished for "not holding it in". LudwigPastorius Mar 2023 #22
It was 6th grade for me Tickle Mar 2023 #28
My son had it in 4th grade this year. edisdead Mar 2023 #35
the boys go to? Tickle Mar 2023 #39
Yep edisdead Mar 2023 #43
Trans-boys? Whatthe_Firetruck Mar 2023 #44
Rethugs: fixing problems that aren't problems and don't even exist Takket Mar 2023 #30
My older sister got her period at age 10. She didn't know what Tanuki Mar 2023 #31
I thought it was always 6 in Florida. Of course we already had 4-5 pregnant JCMach1 Mar 2023 #32
Huh. I started in fifth grade. nt LAS14 Mar 2023 #33
"Are You There God? It's Me, Sanctimonious Republican" milestogo Mar 2023 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Writethinker Mar 2023 #37
It seems also Arkansas is catching up to thier insanity. Initech Mar 2023 #38

Walleye

(31,008 posts)
1. Can't talk about anything that makes boys feel icky
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:11 AM
Mar 2023

Of course if they wanna play sports they will be required to record their menstrual cycle for the principal

ecstatic

(32,683 posts)
2. This is so disturbing
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:14 AM
Mar 2023

It also brings to mind their obsession with pedophiles. It's all related in my opinion. They are the pedophiles. And now they're trying to silence children (and adults who might be able to intervene and stop abuse).

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
3. How do school nurses figure into this idiocy?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:23 AM
Mar 2023

It is not uncommon in homes where these subjects are not mentioned at all, for young girls experiencing their first period (especially if younger than average) may think they are dying. What cruelty to not let anyone discuss this or even reassure them?

Lovie777

(12,232 posts)
4. What kind of crap is this?..............
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:23 AM
Mar 2023

Florida, and basically most of the red states are off my list for a visit.

Response to allegorical oracle (Original post)

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
6. This is disgusting
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 07:39 AM
Mar 2023

I deal with this page group often. By 6th grade, more thsn half already have their periods. This is so fucking vile.

They do not want young girls to be educated about their bodies. They wantvthem ignorant and in the dark so they are easier to control.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
25. Also rolling back contraception measures.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 03:08 PM
Mar 2023

Most people today have no idea what is in store for women.

Some of us were alive when all of this was a harsh reality before.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
10. even in the 1980s,
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 08:28 AM
Mar 2023

when my daughter was in 4th grade, one of her classmates started her period at the age of 9. My understanding is that this is happening more and more.

no one ever try and tell me that republicans do not hate women. i hate republicans

Parents of young kids need to begin teaching their children as soon as the first question pops. My repressed mother used to tell me she found me in a cabbage patch. My children knew where they came from. There are still boys out there who believe that girls don't fart or defecate. i mean please this is so fucked up.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
13. This is a wedge issue for ethnic families.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 10:07 AM
Mar 2023

Latinas and I hear black Americans can start their periods at 9.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
16. I understand. But the statistics might show that ethnic minorities, as a group, have a higher
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 10:15 AM
Mar 2023

percentage that start earlier. And this would be a wedge issue we can use.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,326 posts)
15. Anyone of any race can start menstruating at nine. The differences between average age of menarche
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 10:11 AM
Mar 2023

among races is a matter of months, not years, and is likely due to socioeconomic factors.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
17. No it's not.
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 10:21 AM
Mar 2023

This study showed differences for both non-Hispanic black girls, and Mexican American girls that were years different. Not months.

Age at menarche for non-Hispanic black girls was significantly earlier than that of white girls at 10%, 25%, and 50% of those who had attained menarche, whereas Mexican American girls were only significantly earlier than the white girls at 25%.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12509562/

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
20. My white step sister got hers at 9. She got hers before I got mine,
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 02:37 PM
Mar 2023

even though she was 3 1/2 years younger than me. I didn't get mine until I was almost 15. There's just a lot of individual variation.

edisdead

(1,925 posts)
34. Wait what?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 04:24 PM
Mar 2023

There is a racial component to when girls can start their periods

Is this factual? As a man I have no idea.

Lettuce Be

(2,336 posts)
18. They going to arrest a child for asking for help when she suddenly starts to bleed?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 10:27 AM
Mar 2023

Cruel and unusual punishment is what that is.

Tickle

(2,513 posts)
28. It was 6th grade for me
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 03:44 PM
Mar 2023

When did they start teaching younger grades?

My Granddaughter is in the 5th grade and she already knows about menstruation from her mother but maybe she'll learn more in the 6th grade. I would hope to think she could discuss it if she gets her period before the 6th grade. That makes zero sense to me.

edisdead

(1,925 posts)
43. Yep
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 10:15 PM
Mar 2023

It starts with the whole class in a general sex Ed. Then next year I think they get some sex specific stuff.But yep they talked about all of that stuff. Of course our son has had the wonders of the body books (can’t remember the actual title right now and we are on vacation) since he was little little.

Takket

(21,560 posts)
30. Rethugs: fixing problems that aren't problems and don't even exist
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 03:59 PM
Mar 2023

Honestly how many times does this even get discussed at that age

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
31. My older sister got her period at age 10. She didn't know what
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 04:13 PM
Mar 2023

was happening and cried, thinking she had somehow injured herself. My mom felt terrible about that, as she just had not anticipated it happening so soon. She made sure I was prepared well ahead of time. I can't imagine the mentality of deliberately trying to hide basic biology from school students.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
32. I thought it was always 6 in Florida. Of course we already had 4-5 pregnant
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 04:14 PM
Mar 2023

Girls in our class by then... Not joking about that.

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