TikTok is just too popular and efficient for the other companies

[malaise]

That's a big part of this mess.

[edhopper]

1. Tik Tok

is a data mining app that has a video feature. It should be banned.

[Tribetime]

2. I'm on tiktok a few hours a day

A lot of anti trump on there

[edhopper]

5. Are sure you say hello

To the Chinese government that now has all your data.

[Tribetime]

13. Sure I'm 63 and broke

[edhopper]

14. So no one should worry about this

because you're not concerned with identity theft or credit card fraud or ransomware.

If it doesn't hurt Tribetime, who gives a fuck about anyone else.

[Tribetime]

16. Why aren't they going after facebook first there's got to be a reason

[edhopper]

17. Facebook

Is bad about selling data.
But they are not controlled by an advisarial government.
We are handing China the means to hurt us.
I am not okay with that.

[Lancero]

18. Facebook is giving the information they collect TO China.

https://www.scmagazine.com/analysis/privacy/developers-in-china-russia-had-access-to-facebook-user-data-for-years-senators-say

China is going to get that information either way. Either they put in the effort to collect it themselves, or get it from another company that collects it - Either by purchasing the information, or by a partnering with that company.

It's why you're seeing a lot of hate sent towards them, and crickets about US companies. Because it's not really about data security here. Its because US companies want to keep selling it off or leveraging it, and they can't do that if China can just collect it themselves.

[Tribetime]

20. So it's okay to buy a cell phone from china but not an app o k

[malaise]

4. Aren't they all. N/t

[edhopper]

6. Few as bad

as Tik Tok.

[Trenzalore]

3. The Chinese are buying all kinds of real assets in the US

but let's focus on the Social Media application.

Don't give a shit. Let's talk about the farms.

[edhopper]

7. Both are problems

But if you don't think the Chinese government having the personal data of millions of Americans,...

[malaise]

8. I'm not a user of any of them

I read Twitter stuff from others, watch the odd Tictok mostly from young family or on posts and never signed up for Facebook.
They all mine data and target users.

[edhopper]

9. Not to the extent

of Tik Tok. And the others aren't an arm of the Chinese government.

[pinkstarburst]

22. I am pissed because once again

we are taking our eye off the ball. US farmland and other agricultural property is being bought up by foreign investors from China. That SHOULD NOT be allowed. Foreign investors are also buying US real estate and turning them into rental properties and short term rentals, driving up housing costs and making it difficult to impossible for young people to afford a home.

Those two issues are so much more important to me than stupid TikTok and I have a feeling that they will ban TikTok, brush off their hands and be like, yup, we solved the problem, ignoring the REAL problem.

[edhopper]

23. Why does one

negate the other.

It's like saying why are we worrying about banning books when they are making abortion illegal. Both are problems that need to be addresses.

[Sogo]

10. From a friend whose son is a major techie who works for Google....

TikTok is a Chinese PsyOp, not social media:

[PortTack]

12. This video has been proven baseless. FB sells your information, was a big part of tfg '16 election

Steal…and, has spent upwards of 2 million lobbying congress to ban the popular app.

TikTok has spent 1.5 billion to please the US and security concerns.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/01/tiktok-spent-1-5-billion-to-ease-us-govt-natl-security-concerns-report/

[Lancero]

15. Yeah, well, FB is owned by a white guy. Which means our systemically racist nation is a-ok with it.

Hilariously, FB has extensive data sharing arrangements with Chinese companys. So a lot of that super-duper private information we're trying to prevent China from collecting can instead be collected on their behalf by Facebook.

https://www.scmagazine.com/analysis/privacy/developers-in-china-russia-had-access-to-facebook-user-data-for-years-senators-say

So... Yeah. This is why half assed attempts focusing exclusively on TikTok because "Chyna!" are a load of shit. They'll get that data one way or another, either collecting it themselves, or by some partnership with another company. Lashing out against TikTok does fuck all to protect a users data - All it's protecting is other companies economic self interestm their ability to collect that data for the express purpose of selling to other companies (Ie, TikTok) or to leverage access to that data to form a economic partnership.

[malaise]

19. Adding this - AOC nailed it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217759236

[David__77]

21. Scared of competition.

…

[Hortensis]

24. :) Oh, is THAT all?

Of course it's drawing over a billion users away from other platforms. That's a problem for them, all right.

The devil's in the rest of it. We're been informed and warned.

[malaise]

25. I'm on none of them given the warnings

re data stealing from all of them.
Special interests hate competition. That is all.