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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAndrew Sullivan = Brilliant
Just saw him on Hardball (DVR delay, yes). But blasting Obama's critics on the right and left and dead-on doing so. Imagine Obama losing to any one of these twits because you decided to stay home [shiver].
girl gone mad
(20,634 posts)Sorry, but I like to get opinions and advice from people who are generally right about the important things.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)If centrists want to hang Paul around progressives necks then centrists get the war Mongers like Sullivan.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)left. I don't trust him at all.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)I guess anyone who supports Obama is suspect with some people on this board. Oh well.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)and it appears as if President Obama is heading for a landslide reelection win IF we can believe CNN's polls, that is.
But you're right about some people here who would excoriate anyone who supports PBO. I was surprised to hear Sullivan has thrown his support behind President Obama for reelection, though. I didn't think he was that happy with the president, considering what I heard him say during on of Bill Maher's Real Time shows last year.
dsc
(52,155 posts)while people who dare to point out that Paul is correct on the war on drugs get pillaried for his racist views. Sullivan praised the Bell Curve from his perch as the editor of the New Republic.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Still a chickenhawk, who has never recanted his support for the racist Laffer Curve.
Jack_Dawson
(9,196 posts)Everyone makes mistakes.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)this:
But yes I agree Sullivan is a douche. Whenever he appears on Bill Maher's show he tries to appear like such a right winger he comes across like an imbecile.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)UTUSN
(70,672 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)I remember the following (cite is from Wikipedia) -
Sullivan supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States, and was initially hawkish in the war on terror, arguing that weakness would embolden terrorists. Immediately following the September 11 attacks in 2001, he wrote a controversial essay for The Sunday Times, in which he stated, "The middle part of the country the great red zone that voted for Bush is clearly ready for war. The decadent Left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead and may well mount what amounts to a fifth column."[44] In an October 14, 2001 post, Sullivan announced that recent anthrax attacks had sealed his support for war on Iraq, including the possible use of nuclear weaponry by the United States.
Not just willing to speak like a fascist, but, as the first part of the last sentence shows - oh yeah, the Iraqi anthrax attack! - he is a moron in the conventional sense. Just. Plain. Stupid.
In 1994, Sullivan published excerpts on race and intelligence from Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray's controversial The Bell Curve, which argued that some of the measured difference in IQ scores between racially defined groups was the result of genetic inheritance. Almost the entire editorial staff of the magazine threatened to resign if material that they considered racist was published.[17] In order to appease them, Sullivan included lengthy rebuttals from 19 writers and contributors. Sullivan has continued to speak approvingly of the research and arguments presented in The Bell Curve: "the book... still holds up as one of the most insightful and careful of the last decade. The fact of human inequality and the subtle and complex differences between various manifestations of being human gay, straight, male, female, black, Asian is a subject worth exploring, period."[18]
You can find examples of hyperbole aiming to anger the right, but at this point it's all in the service of promoting Andrew Sullivan as some kind of original, daring thinker. He's seeks to devise controversy by offending some group. There's nothing consistent in him, and that makes him an attention whore.
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