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Jack_Dawson

(9,196 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:49 PM Jan 2012

Andrew Sullivan = Brilliant

Just saw him on Hardball (DVR delay, yes). But blasting Obama's critics on the right and left and dead-on doing so. Imagine Obama losing to any one of these twits because you decided to stay home [shiver].

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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
2. Andrew Sullivan is a Reagan loving jack ass.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:20 AM
Jan 2012

If centrists want to hang Paul around progressives necks then centrists get the war Mongers like Sullivan.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
9. he only exists on the extreme ends of the spectrum of thought, either right or
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:42 PM
Jan 2012

left. I don't trust him at all.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
3. If his opinion can convince center right and centrists to vote for Obama...I'm down with that.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:46 AM
Jan 2012

I guess anyone who supports Obama is suspect with some people on this board. Oh well.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
8. According to the lastest CNN poll, they're already firmly on his side
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:14 AM
Jan 2012

and it appears as if President Obama is heading for a landslide reelection win IF we can believe CNN's polls, that is.

But you're right about some people here who would excoriate anyone who supports PBO. I was surprised to hear Sullivan has thrown his support behind President Obama for reelection, though. I didn't think he was that happy with the president, considering what I heard him say during on of Bill Maher's Real Time shows last year.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
4. I just love the idolization of this racist
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:49 AM
Jan 2012

while people who dare to point out that Paul is correct on the war on drugs get pillaried for his racist views. Sullivan praised the Bell Curve from his perch as the editor of the New Republic.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
6. Sully still has his head up Reagan's ass,
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:11 AM
Jan 2012

Still a chickenhawk, who has never recanted his support for the racist Laffer Curve.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
11. "Bell Curve". The Laffer Curve goes something like
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:59 PM
Jan 2012

this:



But yes I agree Sullivan is a douche. Whenever he appears on Bill Maher's show he tries to appear like such a right winger he comes across like an imbecile.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
14. Sullivan, once an Iraq war cheerleader, always whoring for attention?
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:14 PM
Jan 2012

I remember the following (cite is from Wikipedia) -

Sullivan supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States, and was initially hawkish in the war on terror, arguing that weakness would embolden terrorists. Immediately following the September 11 attacks in 2001, he wrote a controversial essay for The Sunday Times, in which he stated, "The middle part of the country — the great red zone that voted for Bush — is clearly ready for war. The decadent Left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead — and may well mount what amounts to a fifth column."[44] In an October 14, 2001 post, Sullivan announced that recent anthrax attacks had sealed his support for war on Iraq, including the possible use of nuclear weaponry by the United States.


Not just willing to speak like a fascist, but, as the first part of the last sentence shows - oh yeah, the Iraqi anthrax attack! - he is a moron in the conventional sense. Just. Plain. Stupid.

In 1994, Sullivan published excerpts on race and intelligence from Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray's controversial The Bell Curve, which argued that some of the measured difference in IQ scores between racially defined groups was the result of genetic inheritance. Almost the entire editorial staff of the magazine threatened to resign if material that they considered racist was published.[17] In order to appease them, Sullivan included lengthy rebuttals from 19 writers and contributors. Sullivan has continued to speak approvingly of the research and arguments presented in The Bell Curve: "the book... still holds up as one of the most insightful and careful of the last decade. The fact of human inequality and the subtle and complex differences between various manifestations of being human — gay, straight, male, female, black, Asian — is a subject worth exploring, period."[18]


You can find examples of hyperbole aiming to anger the right, but at this point it's all in the service of promoting Andrew Sullivan as some kind of original, daring thinker. He's seeks to devise controversy by offending some group. There's nothing consistent in him, and that makes him an attention whore.

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